MMA Thread

[Darkgod]

cro cop has kicks and thats it, and if you defend that and press him... hes easy

[steelba]

Yup def agree with that, and everyone in the ufc can avoid his kicks, time for him to go back home :smokin2:

[Aurone]

Breaking News:

Quinton "Rampage" Jackson is done with UFC and fighting.

http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/117033/Quinton-Rampage-Jackson-Done-Fighting.htm


The UFC has done a lot for me but I think I have done more for them. The UFC bought WFA to get my contract & they saved my life, so I felt loyal to them. They pushed me into a fight with Chuck Liddel even when I clearly stated I wasn't ready to fight for the belt because the American fans didn't know me but I took the fight and didn't complain & after I won the American fans booed me for the first time which changed the way I saw them & it hurt me deeply.

Then before I can even get out of the cage they announced that I was fighting Dan Henderson without even asking me. After I beat Dan Henderson, I made history in becoming the first undisputed champion in MMA but was never even given the pride belt in the cage & I was never promoted as the undisputed champ. Later Anderson Silva was.

Then they had me coach TUF season 7 and fight Forrest and the fight was very controversial & normally when a fight is that close & controversial there is normally an instant replay. I can name a couple of instances. Instead they offered me the Vanderlei Silva fight which I gladly accepted even though I know it was a very risky fight for me to take because of all the drama that was happening to me at the time. I fought that fight with a jaw injury and then a couple weeks later Dana called me and asked me to fight Rashad. For the first time I said no, I didn't want to fight because it was such short notice & I wouldn't have had a long break between camp. Dana talked me into fighting Rashad anyway but Rashad refused the fight and so I had to fight Jardine as a favor to the UFC instead of getting my belt back (which wasn't even worth it to me financially).

Then I reinjured my jaw in the fight with Vanderlei & Jardine. Frank Mir gets hurt so they wanted to switch my fight from UFC 100 to the fight Frank couldn't make it to but I couldn't fight cause I needed jaw surgury. So they give Machida the fight against Rashad & they told me they want me to coach TUF season 10 against Rashad. That's why I wanted Rashad to win so bad but when Rashad got knocked out I told them I wanted to fight Machida for the belt but Dana told me if I coach TUF against Rashad that I could fight Machida afterwards cause this was a different type of ultimate fighter show they were doing. After I signed the contract Dana then changes his mind & says I have to fight Rashad & even told me what to say in the press & so my fans think I was scared to fight Machida. After all that I still never complained & I did it all.

Then this movie role came about that I have been trying to get for over a year & as soon as I found out I was close to getting it, I called Dana right away & asked to push the Memphis fight back just a month or so. I told him what this movie role meant to me. I told him that I used to bond with my father watching the tv show as a kid when my parents where still married & it represents the memories I had with my father when we lived together. My dad became an alcohalic & addicted to drugs & we grew apart. But after my dad got his life back together, I was so proud of my dad & I told him I would always take care of him in the future & make him proud of me. My dad & I are still very big fans of the show & I am basically doing this for the childhood memories I had spending time in front of the tv with my dad. Dana went on the internet & mocked me because of that & I still did nothing. Dana & I finally talked & we made up & then after that he went back on the internet & said some bullshit & he was talking bad about the movie when information is not even supposed to be released & talking about payments which is not even true could really hurt my future acting career, which could very well last longer than my fighting career. I'm not like Randy Couture. My body has been getting so many different injuries that I wont be able to fight until my forties & neither do I want to fight that long. So I feel like my second career could be in jeopardy.. so I'm done fighting. I've been getting negative reviews from the dumb ass fans that don't pay my bills or put my kids though college. So I'm hanging it up. I'm gonna miss all my loyal fans but hopefully they'll follow me to my new career & I will gain more loyal fans along the way. & all you hater fans out there can kiss my big black hairy ass! & anybody that don't like what I just said can come try to kick my ass!

I still feel the UFC is a great organization and I felt like I was very loyal to them but they didn't respect my loyalty but I wish the UFC the best. I did a lot of things for them. I wish no bad blood between us but I have kids & a family back in Memphis to provide for & thats all that matters to me!

[IKickAssForTheLord]

That doesn't surprise me. Dana is just a prick, I don't like him at all.

[steelba]

SOB :mad:

My fav fighter retires :cussing:
Oh well there's still GSP :confident:


*awaits next Vitor Belfort fight* :smokin2:

[Ferox13]

He'll be back in a year or 2...

[Darkgod]

who knows, maybe when his No compete clause expires he goes to Strikeforce or something... or maybe this will all get worked out. I dont like that he quit... but I understand why, I always wondered why he never got a rematch for the belt. At one time he was the most popular guy in MMA, and his loss was controversial so he should have gotten the rematch

[Aurone]

I wanted to see Rampage go to the weight needed and kill Anderson Silva.

[Freddy316]

I'm sure this is just anger talking. Both sides will eventually work things out and Rampage will be back in the octagon, especially when he realizes that his movie career isn't going to go anywhere.

[Lemmywinks]

Bummer about Rampage. I wonder how Dana White feels about Strikeforce beating him to the punch about nationally televising a fight? On CBS November 7th Fedor defends his belt against Rogers. Eat it Dana,eat it.

[Freddy316]

Bummer about Rampage. I wonder how Dana White feels about Strikeforce beating him to the punch about nationally televising a fight? On CBS November 7th Fedor defends his belt against Rogers. Eat it Dana,eat it.
Doesn't mean anything. EliteXC got a major network deal (also on CBS) before the UFC and look where they are now. The UFC will eventually get a network deal, but so far with the high ratings of their shows on Spike and the high buyrates on their PPV's they have shown they don't need to be on a major network to be successful.

[Darkgod]

IM sorry... now im starting to think things are a little rigged. I understand the 19-19 voting... but I don't see how Mcsweeny won both rounds. In the first, Wes had a take down, landed some nice body shots in on the ground and didn't get anything done to him. I also think he should have won the second, as only to the final 30 seconds did Mcsweeny do anything. (and he was a bit gassed as well.) And somehow two judges see him winning both rounds? Something smells in Denmark... or however it is said.

[Ferox13]

10 point must system is retarded for MMA especially for a 3 round fight (or 2 in the case of TUF). They really need to change the system...

That fight was terrible - I don't understand why McSweeney refused to engage so often. He could have finished the fight when ever he wanted...

Nelson vs Kimbo next week - I don't think its a good match up for Kimbo but we'll see.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

Yea the last 2 fights on the show have been pretty bad.

[Freddy316]

I was hoping they would both get kicked off the show after that horrible fight. They were both gassed after the first round and neither of them looked like they wanted to be there.

Will be interesting to see how Kimbo does against Nelson next week. Might get to see if he improved his ground game at all if Nelson decides to take him down.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

Yea last night's fight was horrible. And I thought the big dude won the fight too. but both of them were fuckin' GASSED!

[Lemmywinks]

Doesn't mean anything. EliteXC got a major network deal (also on CBS) before the UFC and look where they are now. The UFC will eventually get a network deal, but so far with the high ratings of their shows on Spike and the high buyrates on their PPV's they have shown they don't need to be on a major network to be successful.

Strikeforce is already a stable league and is supplying a good fight is what i'm getting at. Not having to pay to watch Fedor defend his title is impressive to me.

[Lemmywinks]

Yea last night's fight was horrible. And I thought the big dude won the fight too. but both of them were fuckin' GASSED!

I was rooting for Rashads guy because I knew he would throw Kimbo in the octagon immediately.

[steelba]

now that Rampage retired and wont be fighting Evans I have no interest in TUF 10.

[Lemmywinks]

Yeah i'm still watching but my interest level dropped. I'm sticking with it just to see how Kimbo does.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

now that Rampage retired and wont be fighting Evans I have no interest in TUF 10.

Waste :dsp:

[steelba]

Waste :dsp:
waste this :finger3:

[Aurone]

Silva vs Vitor seems to be set for UFC 108.



http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/117385/Anderson-Silva-vs.-Vitor-Belfort-Likely-For-UFC-108.htm

Now, I know the fight between the 2 could be legendary, but I have 2 issues about this.

1: Vitor's only had 1 match. Sure he won in an amazing way, but still, only 1 match.

2: He had trouble making weight for his last fight, and that was 195, I think Anderson's weight is 185.

I'm sure this could be a hell of a match, but I still think Henderson disserves a title shot more.

[j-vc]

Silva vs Vitor seems to be set for UFC 108.



http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/117385/Anderson-Silva-vs.-Vitor-Belfort-Likely-For-UFC-108.htm

Now, I know the fight between the 2 could be legendary, but I have 2 issues about this.

1: Vitor's only had 1 match. Sure he won in an amazing way, but still, only 1 match.

2: He had trouble making weight for his last fight, and that was 195, I think Anderson's weight is 185.

I'm sure this could be a hell of a match, but I still think Henderson disserves a title shot more.
Vitor is also coming off of spectacular knockout finishes over Terry Martin and Matt Lindland, as well as his destruction of the former MW champ. I know it's still only one fight back within the UFC, but I can at least understand the decision. I'm more excited for this fight than I would be for a Yushin Okami rematch.

I suspect the weight issue with Belfort came from training his body for a match at 185 pounds for the Affliction card but at the last minute having to turn around and move his weight up ten pounds. I don't think Belfort should have any weight issues in his next fight.

With that said, yeah, I do think the Henderson rematch might be the more interesting matchup. I think Anderson is going to have the more well rounded striking against Vitor and that will probably be all she wrote. I won't count Vitor out though, as the last time I did he KO'd Rich Franklin in 3 minutes.

[steelba]

excellent :smokin2:

[Ferox13]

Yeah i'm still watching but my interest level dropped. I'm sticking with it just to see how Kimbo does.

I predict he'll lose to Nelson next week...

[IKickAssForTheLord]

I haven't missed an episode from all the seasons, so no reason to stop now. I'll be watchin' it all. Plus the bickering back and forth with Evans & Rampage is greatness.

[Ferox13]

I haven't missed an episode from all the seasons, so no reason to stop now. I'll be watchin' it all. Plus the bickering back and forth with Evans & Rampage is greatness.

For sure and also there isn't as much as that sophomoric pissing in each others bed/food etc etc.

[Darkgod]

I hate Kimbo as much as the next guy, but I don't think Nelson is the man to beat him. Hes a slugger too, not some ground guy. Rashad had other ground guys he could have used to elimanate Kimbo. I just don't think Nelson is gonna do it.... Kimbo KO in 2nd.

[Ferox13]

I don't think Nelson is the man to beat him. Hes a slugger too, not some ground guy.

Nelson is a Renzo Black Belt (I'd definally think makes him a 'ground guy' too) - he also beat Mir at Grappler's Quest. I know he likes to duke out but he does have serioud ground skills.

[steelba]

Kimbo can't beat anyone, he gets gassed even when he's winning a fight :straightface:

[Freddy316]

Kimbo can't beat anyone, he gets gassed even when he's winning a fight :straightface:
Kimbo can beat you. :straightface:

[Freddy316]

I hate Kimbo as much as the next guy, but I don't think Nelson is the man to beat him. Hes a slugger too, not some ground guy.
Nelson is a ground guy. He wins a lot of his fights by KO but he also has a black belt in BJJ and is well known for his grappling skills. If Nelson takes down Kimbo, Kimbo will be in trouble.

[steelba]

Kimbo can beat you. :straightface:
:no:

I could easily avoid his punches in the octagon and wait until he tires out, fool has no wind and can't fight on the ground to save his life.

I'd definitely fight him if they were paying me :smokin2:

[Darkgod]

His "submission" skills have been called into question before, black belt or not. And he hasn't finshed a match by submission in 3 years.

[Freddy316]

His "submission" skills have been called into question before, black belt or not. And he hasn't finshed a match by submission in 3 years.
Still, his ground game is light years better then Kimbo's who has absolutely none. Kimbo's only chance will be to keep the fight standing and hope to get a quick KO win before Nelson has a chance to take him down.

Or Nelson might play it stupid and actually decide to keep the fight standing in which case Kimbo will have a chance for a KO, but even then Nelson is a decent striker as well and it could go either way. Bottom line, if the fight goes to the ground there is no way Kimbo is winning, if the fight stays standing I'd say it's 50-50.

[Darkgod]

Oh i agree Kimbo had no ground game, but Nelson def. likes to stand and pound instead of be a ground guy. Plus if he can stand and ko kimbo he has his career made.

[Ferox13]

:no:

I could easily avoid his punches in the octagon and wait until he tires out, fool has no wind and can't fight on the ground to save his life.

I'd definitely fight him if they were paying me :smokin2:

LOL@you beating Kimbo...

[IKickAssForTheLord]

If I win the lottery, I'm puttin' that fight together.

[Darkgod]

Steelba FTW with Razor's Edge

[IKickAssForTheLord]

:lol2:

[Ferox13]

If I win the lottery, I'm puttin' that fight together.

Maybe get a paypal thing running...

[steelba]

LOL@you beating Kimbo...
fool sucks, i've been in a buncha street fights like that clown, I am not impressed :dislike:

I already know how his fate goes on the show so F it :smokin2:

[Ferox13]

fool sucks, i've been in a buncha street fights like that clown, I am not impressed :dislike:

I already know how his fate goes on the show so F it :smokin2:

LOL - you're saying you're bigger, stronger - have better head movement and punching power than Kimbo Slice?

[Darkgod]

fool sucks, i've been in a buncha street fights like that clown, I am not impressed :dislike:

I already know how his fate goes on the show so F it :smokin2:

dont say you know because wiki lists him as fighting that night. Dana has said he was fighting on the final regardless if he wins or loses.

[steelba]

LOL - you're saying you're bigger, stronger - have better head movement and punching power than Kimbo Slice?
Nope, but I have a chin and it wouldn't be hard for anyone to move around the octagon for 3-5 minutes until Kimbo Beetch got gassed. Plus the fool can't take a punch or fight on the ground, he sux hard.

Could give a shit about Wiki, the Kimbo news was already leaked months ago :starefreak:

[Darkgod]

So what is it? I could care less who wins now that the coaches fight is ruined, I just want to see if your right. Does he win/lose, and who does he beat/get beat by?

[steelba]

he's suppose to lose badly right away :shifty:

[Lemmywinks]

From what i've heard he beats Nelson then loses his next fight. Hey Steel grab a camera whoop somebodies ass in some back alley then put it on youtube.

[steelba]

hahahahahahaha, I almost whooped on these foolz last Saturday, they almost hit me and then flipped me shit. So I stepped on da gas and caught em at the bank, they wouldn't get out of the car :smokin2:

[Lemmywinks]

New internet sensation:STEELBA.

[steelba]

kimbo's youtube fights :die:

[Lemmywinks]

He has an actual "team Kimbo" with him which is more hilarious. I volunteer my services for Team Steelba.

[Ferox13]

Nope, but I have a chin and it wouldn't be hard for anyone to move around the octagon for 3-5 minutes until Kimbo Beetch got gassed. Plus the fool can't take a punch or fight on the ground, he sux hard.

Could give a shit about Wiki, the Kimbo news was already leaked months ago :starefreak:

Whats your fighting back ground?

Last board I was on a guy said the same thing - he did ending up beating him Kimbo but his head looked like a basket ball. This guy was 260lbs and was a golden gloves - granted it was street boxing rules..

I'd give u 30 seconds with Kimbo in the ring and thats being generous.

Then again I'd give myself that amount of time and I'm sure I have alot more standup and ground experience that you have.

[steelba]

Whats your fighting back ground?
.
Tons of street fights, I can come down and kick your ass if that makes you feel better. Fuck kimbo and fuck you for liking him.

[Lemmywinks]

I need to go too TEAM STEELBA!!!!!

[IKickAssForTheLord]

I'm gonna start head kickin' people here. :stare:

[steelba]

*hires Lemmy*


arranges fight with Ferox13, after his late night date with Kimbo iz over :mhehe:

[3/6]

hahahahahahaha, I almost whooped on these foolz last Saturday, they almost hit me and then flipped me shit. So I stepped on da gas and caught em at the bank, they wouldn't get out of the car :smokin2:

chasing the short bus again huh? :mhehe:

[Lemmywinks]

Sweet i'll light your joints for you after your victories. TEAM STEELBA!!!

[Ferox13]

LOL@Tons of street fights

So you've never actually boxed or trained in any sort of grappling..

[IKickAssForTheLord]

I did boxing for like a month. :confident: But those dudes were chumps, was a waste of time.

[steelba]

alot of people who have to train suck, there were a buncha MMA guys that were training in Gold's the day before their fights at the events center here, they were getting clowned by the staff and all the regulars :mhehe:

[steelba]

ok so what happened to Kimbo in his 1st fight :smokin2:

[Ferox13]

As i said:


I predict he'll lose to Nelson next week...

Kimbos clinch was better than i thought but he seems to still have zero ground game. In the side mount he was flat on his back and made no effort to turn into Nelson. I know Roy is a big guy but it didn't look like he even tryed.

It was weird that Nelson didn't go for a single elbow from the crucifix position (ala Hughes) - Kimbos head was kinda buried but with that control he could have repositioned (maybe his stomach got in the way..lol). Must have being annoyed to have the fight stopped to punches that weren't doing damage.

Kimbos seems to come across as a decent person too...

I annoyed by the lack of Sims time though...

[steelba]

Kimbo iz bitch :starefreak:

Now that i've seen Crapbo lose I can quit watching the rest of this season, since Rampage wont be fighting Evans :straightface:

[cataclysm vol.2]

Kimbo isn't going anywhere. They're going to find a way to keep him in the show, and by the preview, it looks like they're going to have him replace one of the other fighters.

[ZION]

Kimbo iz bitch :starefreak:

Now that i've seen Crapbo lose I can quit watching the rest of this season, since Rampage wont be fighting Evans :straightface:

If you really think that Rampage is retired and WONT fight Evans then your crazy. Have to agree with cataclysm, Bimbo will be back somehow. Dana's not gonna let money walk out the door, he knows people will pay to see him fight. I can see it already...Kimbo fighting his 1st fight for UFC vs. The Iceman. A unproven fighter against a fighter who needs a big name and a big win to get BACK into the game. People would pay to see that fight go down. Shit, even I would watch it! Just my opinion.

[LgOr]

that was a waste. I thought Kimbo was gonna get suffocated under there

[LgOr]

If you really think that Rampage is retired and WONT fight Evans then your crazy. Have to agree with cataclysm, Bimbo will be back somehow. Dana's not gonna let money walk out the door, he knows people will pay to see him fight. I can see it already...Kimbo fighting his 1st fight for UFC vs. The Iceman. A unproven fighter against a fighter who needs a big name and a big win to get BACK into the game. People would pay to see that fight go down. Shit, even I would watch it! Just my opinion.

I thnk KImbo vs anybody would draw huge numbers. Rampage doesnt end up fighting Rashad and so they throw in Kimbo :lookaround:

[ZION]

I thnk KImbo vs anybody would draw huge numbers. Rampage doesnt end up fighting Rashad and so they throw in Kimbo :lookaround:

What about LgOr vs. Kimbo? :boxing2:

[steelba]

This show finished shooting 2 months ago, and one of the cast members leaked all the kimbo info online. Nobody believed me when I said he lost immediately but then again this isn't the brightest bunch :straightface:

[IKickAssForTheLord]

Well maybe you shouldn't be leakin shit out. You are a beetch! Since you aren't gonna watch the show you matter as well not post in here. :dsp:

[steelba]

Well maybe you shouldn't be leakin shit out. You are a beetch! Since you aren't gonna watch the show you matter as well not post in here. :dsp:
Oh i'm sorry I didn't know this was "The Ultimate Fighter" thread dickface, I thought it was the "MMA" thread. Who knew it was dedicated to that POS sideshow instead of the actual sport of mixed martial arts :shrugs:

[Freddy316]

Kimbo was winning the striking but couldn't handle himself when the blob took him down. He already has good stand up all he needs to do is develop a ground game and he could do well in MMA. I hope after the show is over Dana gives Kimbo one more shot and lets him fight on the finale to see if all that time on the show improved him as a fighter.

[Darkgod]

This show finished shooting 2 months ago, and one of the cast members leaked all the kimbo info online. Nobody believed me when I said he lost immediately but then again this isn't the brightest bunch :straightface:

U also said he lost badly.... im sorry that wasn't no massacre... that was a joke. Listen I hate Kimbo, I hate the hype about him and think he sucks. But Nelson... is not much better. After the fight who looked worse? Nelson, cause he got caught with real punches, where as Nelson laid on his face/chest and punched him in the hardest spot on the human body with light ass punches. Im sorry, I agree it should have been called cause he wasn't defending himself, but Nelson did shit to actually win. What laid his fat ass on top of the man? Please, I hope Nelson now wins, an watch any heavyweight, any man in the division destroy him.

[Ferox13]

Nelson laid on his face/chest and punched him in the hardest spot on the human body with light ass punches. Im sorry, I agree it should have been called cause he wasn't defending himself, but Nelson did shit to actually win.

The weird thing is Nelson was shown before the fight saying that if he did get Kimbo down he'd go for the crucifix and tip tap on his head that it had to be called as those are the rules and that is exactly what he did..

I wonder was he making a point.

[Get Some]

I hate Kimbo Slice.. I dont follow MMA that much but i know he lost too two decent at best fighters on the CBS broadcast and the ultimate fighter....if he can't handle those two fighters then no way he could be in the UFC and do good...just my opinion though

[Freddy316]

I hate Kimbo Slice.. I dont follow MMA that much but i know he lost too two decent at best fighters on the CBS broadcast and the ultimate fighter....if he can't handle those two fighters then no way he could be in the UFC and do good...just my opinion though

I don't understand where all the hate comes from, on the show Kimbo seems like a nice dude personality wise. As for skills, right now Kimbo is only a decent striker, he doesn't have any other MMA skills. It remains to be seen if he will learn the other aspects of MMA. If he does and is able to apply them in his fights then it is very possible that he could be a force in MMA. The potential is there.

[steelba]

Kimbo u POS :cussing:

[Ferox13]

I don't understand where all the hate comes from, on the show Kimbo seems like a nice dude personality wise. As for skills, right now Kimbo is only a decent striker, he doesn't have any other MMA skills. It remains to be seen if he will learn the other aspects of MMA. If he does and is able to apply them in his fights then it is very possible that he could be a force in MMA. The potential is there.

The thing is that he didn't exacting start MMA a few weeks back - he's been at it a long time. After the Sean gannon bare knuckle fight he was training with Charles McCarthy in FFA. He then went onto train with Bas til they fell out before the Shamrock fight. Every one who trained him said he was a sponge and learnt quick..

I know Nelson's ground work will make any one look bad (260+ - looks for control over subs - BJJ BB) but kimbo just ignore a lot of basic rules. hard to some one who is training 'professionally' wouldn't use him movement on the bottom in side mount..

It looks like the MMA training has made him forget his strength too (throwing hands) - he looked to cautious vs Nelson. He shoulda went for the KO and not worried about the shoot til it happened..

[Lemmywinks]

Well my interest in this show went from slim to none. Boring ass fights and Rampage retired. Really no point in even watching this. Dug Kimbos ground defense which was lay down and die. As for Nelson he acted like he's the second coming of Jesus Christ after that lame victory. Sticking your gut in someones face and love tapping him isn't all that impressive.

[Darkgod]

Sticking your gut in someones face and love tapping him isn't all that impressive.

exactly

[steelba]

Forrest 'Sissy' Griffen finally speaks :straightface:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4511112&name=mma

:dsp: :dsp: :dsp:

[Freddy316]

Here is a video of that Forrest interview...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuAuWoHScFg&feature=player_embedded

Forrest. :dsp:

[steelba]

what a bitch :mad:

[Ferox13]

Sak's return to the ring is on in a few hours - I hope he can take it to the ground and sub the guy quickly - I'd hate to see him take another hinding on his feet.

Mayhem's remake with Jacaré is on too - wonder what will happen this time. I'm a big Miller fan but can#t see him taking it..

[Lemmywinks]

Well I did bitch about Lesnar and his antics but this qualifies as just as ridiculous if not more. That video of Griffin reminds me totally of WWE bullshit and putting on an entertaining show in the octagon or off of it. At least Lesnar takes THE FIGHT seriously.

[Darkgod]

Someone posted this as proff Kimbo beat nelson ( obviously not) but is it proof Kimbo fights again?
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also since Burger King thinks hes so good...

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and the heavyweight they should have weant out and gotten... and is fighting Fedor... though I doub't he will win.

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[Ferox13]

Sak played it smart and took the boxer down and won with a kimura in 3mins.

There was a good fight with Hellboy and Aoki - where he avenged himself for their previous encounters..

While we're on the subject of Andrei Arlovski getting KO'ed - here he is against one of the 'greatest' heavyweights of all time, Viacheslav Datsik:





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfEv8jA3USw

[Darkgod]

I dunno... before the KO he looked pretty bad... that bumrush looked odd

[Ferox13]

I dunno... before the KO he looked pretty bad... that bumrush looked odd

You've not seen Viacheslav Datsik before?

I meant 'greatest' in a 'special' way? The guy is a lunatic - but entertaining. Hvae a look on youtube for some of his antics.

[Darkgod]

LOL...oh ok

[Lemmywinks]

I can't imagine Brett Rogers lasting to long against Fedor.

[Freddy316]

Brett Rogers is a big guy and has some heavy duty KO power with his striking so I'll at least give him a punchers chance, but yeah I think it's highly unlikely that he will be able to beat Fedor. Fedor is a lot faster and much more well-rounded.

[Ferox13]

AA was doing way better than I thought he would against Fedor before he got reckless:

http://i42.tinypic.com/i4jout.jpg

[Aurone]

In a report earlier today from, Kevin Iole of Yahoo Sports, Iole reported that Dana White confirmed UFC and Dan Henderson had been unable to come to a new deal to the current MMA free agent in Dan Henderson. White is quoted in the article as saying, "We have a good relationship with Henderson, and there are no hard feelings. He had a figure he believed he was worth, and we had our own figure, and we weren't able to get together." Iole went on to report that although White was saddened that the UFC would be losing Henderson, White would be confident that the UFC would eventually recover, and "We always find a way," according to Dana White. Iole also reported in the article that Henderson "was on the verge of signing" a deal with Strikeforce.

Not long after the news sent the MMA news, blogging, and forum world in an uproar, Michael David Smith of MMA Fanhouse put out this story, and that according to Henderson's friend and business partner Aaron Crecy, there is currently no imminent signing planned with Henderson and Strikeforce. "We had a brief get-to-know-you session with (Strikeforce) and met them for coffee, but to say he's close to signing would be a gross misrepresentation," says Crecy. MMA Fanhouse reached Scott Coker who said, "We've had dialogue with Dan but that's all I'd like to say."

Dan Henderson got one of the biggest wins of his career at UFC 100, defeating Michael Bisping by KO, and earning knockout of the night for that show. A title fight with UFC Middleweight Champion, Anderson Silva, was seemingly inevitable. However, Silva and his manager, Ed Soares, desired that Henderson face another top UFC middleweight, Nate Marquardt, in an eliminator bout to determine Silva's next opponent. In addition, talks are now going on for Silva to defend his belt against UFC fighter, Vitor Belfort, whom Henderson defeated at Pride 32 in 2006. Henderson publically spoke on this on such shows as MMA Live and his desire to be paid more after his most recent fights and becoming a free agent.

Crecy also commented in the Fanhouse article that Henderson is currently not making any immediate plans on his future at the moment, but Henderson does plan on attending the Strikeforce event on November 7. After the news was reported that Henderson was a free agent and renegotiation talks with UFC had "slowed," Henderson commented on Inside MMA that he did not want to fight for anyone else except the UFC.



http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/119392/Dan-Henderson-Situation-Update.htm


I still strongly believe that Dan Henderson should be the one who gets a shot at Silva, not Vitor. I'm sorry, but Vitor/Silva I feel is only happening cause of $, not cause anyone truly earned a title shot. Henderson not only won, but killed Bisping, Vitor barely made weight for his fight and won his first fight back in the UFC in years. Yes he's back and he wins, so he instantly gets a title shot? Henderson got screwed over here I feel.

[Freddy316]

I still strongly believe that Dan Henderson should be the one who gets a shot at Silva, not Vitor. I'm sorry, but Vitor/Silva I feel is only happening cause of $, not cause anyone truly earned a title shot. Henderson not only won, but killed Bisping, Vitor barely made weight for his fight and won his first fight back in the UFC in years. Yes he's back and he wins, so he instantly gets a title shot? Henderson got screwed over here I feel.
Agreed. And add that to the fact that the guy Vitor beat to get the instant title shot (Franklin) is a guy that Henderson also recently beat and then add that to the fact that Henderson actually beat Vitor when they fought in Pride. I know I would be pissed if I was Henderson, he got screwed big time.

[Lemmywinks]

I agree about Henderson he deserves a shot. Just read an article about Machida wants to fight Lesnar if he defends his belt 5 times.

[Freddy316]

Just read an article about Machida wants to fight Lesnar if he defends his belt 5 times.
If Machida can avoid being taken down he would have a good shot against Lesnar. Assuming he can avoid the take down, we would have a good chance of seeing Lesnar get knocked out if that fight happens since Machida has much better striking. Anderson Silva vs. Lesnar is another fight I'd like to see at some point.

[steelba]

FIX.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

F Dat Pee Drinker :cussing:

[steelba]

fool got his ass whooped and they fixed the decision, what crap :dsp:

[Freddy316]

Shogun definitely won that fight. One of the worst judge decisions I've seen in a while. Even Machida knew he lost the fight. I wouldn't say the decision was fixed in Machida's direction though, if anything the UFC would have wanted Shogun to win because then they could have hyped up and made big money on a Shogun vs. Anderson Silva fight.

Fix, No. Three dumbass incompetent judges that should be fired and replaced by people who know how to score an MMA fight, Yes.

[Lemmywinks]

Do I want to say it was fixed, no. Do I believe it was fixed, hell yes.

[Freddy316]

Looks like Shogun is going to get an instant rematch.
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=9859&zoneid=13

Good news.

[Lemmywinks]

Looks like Shogun is going to get an instant rematch.
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=9859&zoneid=13

Good news.

Very good news Rua deserves it.

[ZION]

White rips into Mazzagatti...

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[steelba]

Looks like Shogun is going to get an instant rematch.
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=9859&zoneid=13

Good news.
Yeah I heard about the immediate rematch early this morning, me and everyone else sent Dana angry Tweets about the fix, and he said "I hear all of u" and he set up da rematch already :smokin2:

[ZION]

Thanks Steel for your hard work!!! :coolbeer:

[steelba]

hahahahahaha.

Well that bald fool said he always reads his twitter :D

[ZION]

:sure:

[IKickAssForTheLord]

Yeah I heard about the immediate rematch early this morning, me and everyone else sent Dana angry Tweets about the fix, and he said "I hear all of u" and he set up da rematch already :smokin2:

You tell Dana what's up! :cussing:

[Revenant]

Lesnar pulls out of UFC 106 title match against carwin due to illness.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=AjaUZ0H39Ps5nleAnkmeB1s5nYcB?slug=ki-lesnar102609&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[Lemmywinks]

Lesnar pulls out of UFC 106 title match against carwin due to illness.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=AjaUZ0H39Ps5nleAnkmeB1s5nYcB?slug=ki-lesnar102609&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Well that sucks.

[steelba]

:die:

[Lemmywinks]

:die:

Don't die on me Team Steelba has got to represent.

[Darkgod]

that sucks about Lesnar... ugh

As for Machida/Rua I agree that Rua should have won.... but in Machida's defense... he did more body shots head shot, Rua fixated on the leg kick. Unfort. he got the three judges who don't score leg kicks good... some over score it IMO.

[Lemmywinks]

Maybe we will get a Machida/Rua Lesnar/Carwin card that would really jump up UFC ppv buys. Two title defenses in one night can't go wrong there.

[Darkgod]

How could it jump them... they already are on top this year

[steelba]

F it, I got the Vitor/Silva fight I wanted :smokin2:

[Freddy316]

Meh, I can't really get excited about Vitor/Silva. Vitor is good but I don't think he's anywhere near Anderson Silva's level. Should be a quick win for Anderson.

After seeing Shogun beat Machida the real fight I want to see right now is Anderson Silva vs. Shogun especially if Shogun beats Machida again in the rematch.

As for Lesnar, you can't hide from Carwin forever! :finger3:

[Aurone]

People are bashing Lesnar on some sites I'm reading, he's had teh flu for over 3 weeks and with the Swine Flu scare, that shit is serious.

[ZION]

People are bashing Lesnar on some sites I'm reading, he's had teh flu for over 3 weeks and with the Swine Flu scare, that shit is serious.

Fuck that pussy, I had Swine flu last week and still dealing with the after effects and I didnt miss a day of work.

[Darkgod]

I'll believe that when me shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert.

[Aurone]

http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/120219/Rampage-Jackson-Blasts-The-UFC,-Rashad-Evans,-MMA-Judging,-More.htm#

The war of words between Jackson and UFC continue.

[Darkgod]

I agree witht he man 100 percent.... even about that bullshit wes shivers fight

[Freddy316]

Hitler's take on Machida/Shogun,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc-ToTIM3gc&feature=player_embedded

:lol:

[steelba]

Meh, I can't really get excited about Vitor/Silva. Vitor is good but I don't think he's anywhere near Anderson Silva's level. Should be a quick win for Anderson.
I thought the same thing about Shogun, I was wrong :starefreak:

[Aurone]

If Rampage decides to go back to MMA, you think Dana will try and work it out with him? Mind you Strikeforce will though some huge numbers his way in order to win him, especially if his movie does big and makes him a draw.

[steelba]

I'd rather see him in Strikeforce, i'm sick WWE err I mean the UFC.

That coward Forrest Griffin is headlining UFC 106, what a slap in the face :dsp: :dsp: :dsp:

[Aurone]

Well here's what I'm thinking. Suppose he returns to MMA and signs with Strikeforce, and Henderson also leaves UFC and joins Strikeforce (he's admitted that he's had some talks with them). You can not deny there's money in a potential Rampage vs Henderson Remach, and because Dana is being Dana, it'll be for Strikeforce instead.

[steelba]

Let Rampage fight Fedor, awoooooo :D

[Darkgod]

rampage vs hendo isnt a good matchup because rampages strengths are too great for hendos... it just isn't a good matchup for hendo. Also he can't just sign with strikeforce if he has fights left on his contract as then its breach of contract and he gets sued.

[Freddy316]

Also he can't just sign with strikeforce if he has fights left on his contract as then its breach of contract and he gets sued.
Yep. Even if Rampage wanted to he couldn't sign with Strikeforce because he still has fights left on his UFC contract.

[steelba]

Dana :mad:

[Aurone]

http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/120700/UFC-Releases-Josh-Neer.htm

This seems rather questionable, as I hear Neer is a good fighter, just needs work on wrestling.

[Freddy316]

Neer hasn't looked that impressive his last couple of fights, still he is a decent fighter. I'm sure Strikeforce will scoop him up.

[Aurone]

Well, if Vitor is the one to do the MMA world a favor and take down Silva, you'll have to wait a little longer.


According to MMAJunkie.com, Anderson Silva's manager, Ed Soares confirmed that the UFC Middleweight Champion is still recovering from a recent elbow surgery, and will not be fighting at UFC 108.Soares offered up the following comments on the situation…

On His Status: "The latest is he's not fighting Jan. 2," Soares said. "That's not going to happen. He won't be ready. We have to wait and see, Anderson went back to Brazil, and he's continuing his physical therapy there. But there's no set date yet."

On His Recovery: "Anderson's recovery is going really, really well," Soares said. "He's coming back, and his recovery is doing really good. His physical therapy is going really well. He's getting better range of motion. He'll be back 100 percent for sure."

On Facing Vitor: "At the end of the day, it's going to be a great fight," Soares said. "Like I said before, I don't think [Belfort] deserves a title shot, but that's over with now. It is what it is. Whoever the UFC puts in front of us, we'll fight. We've never picked our opponents."



http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/120712/Anderson-Silva-vs.-Vitor-Belfort-Not-Happening-At-UFC-108.htm

[steelba]

SOB :mad:

[reaperofthegrim]

Hmm.. seems the "immediate" rematch isn't so immediate.

http://www.cagepotato.com/hand-surgery-postpones-machidarua-rematch-indefinitely

I agree with the initial decision, and think Machida won the first fight. But i'm happy to see there will (eventually) be a rematch between the two. I just hope it doesn't throw the fighters off by influencing them to be more aggressive and fighting outside of there signature styles in the hopes to make it "more obvious" who won.

[steelba]

F the UFC :finger3:

[Freddy316]

It's not the UFC's fault when fighters get injured, but it sucks how many guys have been injured lately. Four out of the five UFC champions can't fight right now because of an injury,

Machida (hand injury)
Anderson Silva (elbow injury)
GSP (groin injury)
Brock (out sick with the flu). :dsp:
Also, Thiago Alves was injured recently during training so his fight with Fitch is off. :cussing:

[steelba]

:straightface:

[ZION]

From the 13thround.com

Houston Alexander vs. Kimbo Slice catchweight bout (215 lbs)
The pieces of the puzzle are finally coming together.

A long-rumored contest between UFC sluggers Houston Alexander (9-4 MMA, 2-3 UFC) and Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson (3-1 MMA, 0-0 WEC) will take place at The Ultimate Fighter 10 Finale on Dec. 5 in Las Vegas.

That explains why Alexander is applying for a license to fight with the Nevada State Athletic Commission, but what about the weight difference between "The Assassin" at 205 pounds and Slice as a heavyweight? The Times of Northwest Indiana has the answer.

Citing sources close to Alexander's camp, Matt Erickson is reporting not only confirmation that the bout will take place in Las Vegas rather than the previously rumored UFC 107 event in Memphis, Tenn., but also that the pair will meet at a catchweight of 215 pounds.

MMAjunkie.com (UFC blog for UFC news, UFC rumors, fighter interviews and event previews/recaps | MMAjunkie.com) has since verified the location of the bout but has been unable to get official word of the catchweight agreement.

Slice fought at 230 pounds when he met Roy Nelson on the third episode of "The Ultimate Fighter 10: Heavyweights." Following the loss, Slice told AOL FanHouse he'd be willing to try his hand at a light heavyweight contest, though he apparently hasn't made it all the way down to 205 pounds just yet.

Alexander seeks his first UFC win since September 2007. After earning devastating knockout victories over Alessio Sakara and Keith Jardine in his first two trips to the octagon, the Nebraska native has suffered three-straight UFC defeats. Alexander was allowed to take a fight outside of the UFC in September, earning a TKO win over Sherman Pendergarst under the Adrenaline MMA banner.

Slice, who recently joined American Top Team, seeks victory in his first UFC appearance. Despite being eliminated on "TUF 10" in a TKO loss to Nelson, the former streetfighting legend has shown the ability to garner huge ratings during his stint on the show and previous fights under the EliteXC banner.

The bout seems a lock for the evening's Spike TV-broadcast main card.

Featuring two heavy handed punchers who have shown little interest in ground attacks, the Alexander vs. Slice bout is the odds-on favorite for "Knockout of the Night," though either fighter could conceivably claim the prize.

The Ultimate Fighter 10 Finale currently includes:

MAIN CARD
•Matt Hamill vs. Jon Jones
•Frankie Edgar vs. Matt Veach*•Finalist No. 1 vs. Finalist No. 2
•Houston Alexander vs. Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson*
PRELIMINARY CARD
•Dennis Hallman vs. John Howard
•Brian Stann vs. Rodney Wallace
•Mark Bocek vs. TBA** - Not officially announced

[Aurone]

The Ultimate Fighter 10 was nothing more then for Dana White to see if Kimbo Slice could make big numbers while not going back on his word by hiring him straight up.

[Ferox13]

Looking forward to Matt Hamill vs. Jon Jones - that might be good..

[Freddy316]

I'm actually looking forward to Kimbo vs. Houston Alexander. You know both guys are going to want to keep the fight standing and both guys aren't afraid to just go out there and engange in an all out slug fest. Fight is pretty much guaranteed to end with a knock out.

[LgOr]

Alexander by KO rd 1

[Freddy316]

I'd say it's 50/50 situation. The fight could just as easily end with Alexander getting knocked out. Alexander's chin is suspect, he's been dropped by punches that haven't connected fully and he was knocked out in just 8 seconds in his fight against Irvin.

[LgOr]

yeah. But Irvin is a strong puncher and Kimbo was dropped by a measly little jab in his elitexc fight. Guess it goes to whoever lands the first shot. gotta root for Kimbo though just because hell its kimbo

[Ferox13]

Lesnar is now out of UFC108 too it seems..

From MMA Weekly:


When Brock Lesnar pulled out of UFC 106 due to illness, most everyone hoped that he had a severe case of influenza and would recover in time to defend his title against Shane Carwin at UFC 108 on Jan. 2 in Las Vegas.

The UFC even issued Lesnar and Carwin new bout agreements for UFC 108.

Carwin will still get his shot, but the latest news on Lesnar, that he has mononucleosis, will push it back even further, to an uncertain date.


So he has MONO - no going to see him fight for some time now....

[steelba]

Oh well in that case he definitely isn't ducking Carwin, I had mono and I was sick for 3 months, my throat swelled shut, I couldn't eat for over a month, and lost over 35lbs. Not to mention you can't sleep or swallow anything without extreme pain, it's real bad :(

It's gonna take him a while to recover so Shane better get ready to fight someone else. On a side note he was obviously cheating on his wife or she was cheating on him :D

[Freddy316]

It's gonna take him a while to recover so Shane better get ready to fight someone else. On a side note he was obviously cheating on his wife or she was cheating on him :D
Since his wife is Sable, I am going to guess that she is cheating on him. :D

[Lemmywinks]

Since his wife is Sable, I am going to guess that she is cheating on him. :D

Well yeah once then husband Marc Mero got the boot from WWE she had to do something.Now Brock is down and out I wouldn't put it past her.

[steelba]

Fedor fights live on NBC tonight :rock:

[Revenant]

Fedor fights live on NBC tonight :rock:

isn't it CBS? :scratch: thats what i'm watching it on.

[steelba]

isn't it CBS? :scratch: thats what i'm watching it on.
Bah CBS my bad :D

[Freddy316]

Fedor. :rockin:

[Aurone]

Live my ass, I read the results before it even aired in my area.

[Freddy316]

Live my ass, I read the results before it even aired in my area.
It only aired live on the east coast. On the west coast there was a 2 or 3 hour time delay.

[steelba]

good fight :rock:

[Lemmywinks]

Really good fight and I didn't expect Rogers to last as long as he did.

[ZION]

http://i34.tinypic.com/168yjr4.gif

[Freddy316]

Really good fight and I didn't expect Rogers to last as long as he did.
Yeah, I was impressed with Rogers. He did pretty good considering he was fighting the best in the world.

[Aurone]

Rogers had a good chance of winning, concidering he broke Fedor's nose right at the start and when your nose is broken it's hard as hell to breath through it.

[Aurone]

Dana White recently spoke with The LA Times and had some colorful words on Strikeforce, CBS, Fedor, Brett Rogers and more…

On CBS and Strikeforce: "CBS would be out of their mind to put that rinky-dink [Strikeforce] . . . on the air again . . . and without that backing, [promoters] won't have the money to pay [Emelianenko]."

On Fedor vs. Rogers: "The guy just got his face smashed in by Brett Rogers. Do you know what Brock or [UFC heavyweights] Frank Mir and Cain Velasquez would do to Brett Rogers? It's time to bring this guy [Fedor] in, to see Brock Lesnar smash his head."


http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/121601/Dana-White-Bashes-Strikeforce,-Says-Fedor-Got-Smashed-By-Rogers,-More.htm


You know, I don't mind Dana's rants and raves, I usually just ignore them, but this time, I think someone needs to just tell Dana :stfu:

[Lemmywinks]

Well then Dana should sign them both, have Velasquez fight Rogers and Fedor fight Mir and lets see what happens.

[Ferox13]

I can't see Fedor signing to UFC for some time - but we'll see..

http://thegarv.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/arkhamasylum_fedor.gif

[voodoo]

I can't see Fedor signing to UFC for some time - but we'll see..

http://thegarv.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/arkhamasylum_fedor.gif

FATALITY!

[voodoo]

Now on a more serious note....Dana seems to be forgeting that Fedor defeated 4 of UFC's former HW champs(5 if you count Minotauro's run at the interim belt) all in very immpresive way.And ouf of those 4 only 1 can lasted to the second round...in there second match.The Rogers argument i can give him a break on that one but still...Rogers KO'd Arlovski faster then Fedor did

[steelba]

Rodgers would walk through alot of the UFC heavyweights. He would likely beat Brock. Fedor is better and until Brock compiles 32 wins against any opponents, he's not in the same league. Dana disrespects Fedor so Fedor wont sign, it's refreshing that in this day and age of immense greed, everyone can't be bought.

UFC doesn't have any fights i'm interested in for quit some time, with all of it's elite fighters injured or ill. No Silva/Belfort, no Rampage/Evans, no Machida/Shogun 2, no Lesnar/Carwin :straightface:

I don't even remotely care who GSP is gonna walk right through next :no:

[Freddy316]

Rodgers would walk through alot of the UFC heavyweights. He would likely beat Brock.
Agreed. Rogers is no joke, if he was in the UFC he would be in the top tier. If he could avoid being taken down I could easily see him knocking out Brock.



I don't even remotely care who GSP is gonna walk right through next :no:
Last I heard GSP is going to get the winner of Swick/Hardy. Easy win for GSP in any case. This is why I would love to see GSP move up to middleweight, there is no one left for him at welterweight, he's already cleared out the division. There are a lot of guys at middleweight I would love to see GSP fight though.

[Ferox13]

I don't think Rogers would beat Brock - I think its a very bad match up for him. I can't see him stuffing Lesnar's relentless shoots. When it it hits the ground I can see LEsnar riding him like he did Mir and not taking positional risks (like Fedor did with the kimura).

[voodoo]

Rogers has some pretty good mma potential but i don't know...a fight against Brock ...as much as i think that Brock is overrated i think his size and wrestling would be a pretty good tool against Rogers.But yeah i can see Brock maybe getting cocky and trying to prove he can swing it with the big boys and trying to trade with Brett... in that case he would be pretty much shit out of luck.

[Aurone]

Lesnar might be done completly...



According to Dave Meltzer, Brock Lesnar's health status is way more serious than had been previously reported. Lesnar went to Canada last week for rest, as he is recovering from Mono, and while there collapsed and was rushed to the hospital. There is a major health issue that he is not letting out, but to kill rumors that may pop up, he does NOT have cancer HIV/AIDS. It is said that Lesnar will not fight for a very long time, if ever again. Dana White will head to Minnesota to meet with Lesnar, and will also try to get him into the Mayo Clinic, or some other top notch medical facility.


Shit...

2 more guys will be out of UFC 108 as well


Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira is out of UFC 108 as he currently has a severe staph infection. He will need IV treatment to get rid of it, and is said to be in bad shape.



Shane Carwin will be undergoing knee surgery, and will not be available to face Velasquez at UFC 108.


Damn, Dana's HW champ could be out for good and he's lost 2 fighters for 108. His company could have dark times ahead. Although this is the most interesting news of all.


Shane McMahon recently had a meeting at the UFC offices. Dana White would not comment on the meeting.


http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/122012/Major-UFC-News:-Brock-Lesnar-Having-Major-Health-Issues,-Antonio-Rodrigo-Nogueira--Out-Of-UFC-108,-More.htm

Dana White and Vince McMahon I recall arn't the most close of friends, interesting that his son could go to work for them...we'll have to keep an eye on this.

[Freddy316]

Crazy about Lesnar. And now Nog is also sick and Carwin is injured? WTF is it with all the injuries and sickness with the UFC's top fighters lately? Machida, GSP, Anderson Silva, Lesnar, Nog, Carwin are all out because of sickness or injury. It's like the UFC is cursed. :yfreaked:

[steelba]

UFC 105 was wack as fuck :2far:

[Freddy316]

Main event was boring. I like Couture, but I'm not a fan of the simply press your opponent up against the cage for the entire fight strategy. :negative:

[BigFatOgre]

Main event was boring. I like Couture, but I'm not a fan of the simply press your opponent up against the cage for the entire fight strategy. :negative:

The fights get boring when they pull that crap. I understand that there's a strategy to it but i don't wanna see entire rounds of it.

[Lemmywinks]

Good thing UFC 105 was free because it really sucked.

[steelba]

UFC 105 was a complete joke, it sucked, even for free.

I'm looking forward to the next Strikeforce event :rockin:

[Ferox13]

The Ross Pearson v Aaron Riley fight was great.

[Aurone]

Update on Lesnar, seems he had a hole in his Intestines that was leaking onto his stomach. Yikes.

http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/122455/Brock-Lesnar-Had-A-Hole-In-His-Intestines.htm

[Aurone]

The last few months have not been good for Dana and the UFC. Rampage quits, Hendo potentially could leave, Lesnar's out, the loses 2 fighters for UFC 108 and now this...


According to Dana White's TWITTER, Karo Parisyan is out of his UFC 106 fight with Dustin Hazelett. The fight was to be a part of the night's PPV card. Here are his Twitter posts…

Parisyan has fucked over the UFC, the fans and his opponent again!! He will not be fighting saturday or ever again in the UFC

Pulled out of the fight the day before weigh ins again with a laundry list of excuses!!! Let the press ask karo why! Let him explain.

Dustin will be paid his full purse to show and win. Its not his fault.

Updated to show that Dustin Hazelett will be paid to show and to win due to Karo pulling out.


http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/122490/UPDATED:-Karo-Parisyan-Pulls-Out-Of-UFC-106.htm

[IKickAssForTheLord]

Karo is a punk anyways, I wanted Dustin to win that fight anyways.

[steelba]

UFC :die:

[Ferox13]

Karo is a punk anyways, I wanted Dustin to win that fight anyways.

Personally - He seems arrogant but hes a good fighter and I was looking forward to the match with Hazelett. I am prett sure the replacement at this stage will not be as good.

Oh more on Karo:

http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/11/19/exclusive-karo-parisyan-forced-to-pull-out-of-ufc-106-due-to-addiction-to-pain-killers/

"Longtime friend and training partner to Karo, along with being the head Jiu-Jitsu instructor down at Xtreme Couture, Neil Melanson recently received Parisyan’s blessing to clear the air regarding the circumstances surrounding his recent withdraw from Saturday evening’s card.

Karo Parisyan has suffered from a brutal battle with an addiction to pain-killers for some time now. The Armenian born Judo specialist was first introduced to the widely addictive drugs following a severe hamstring injury sustained training for a scheduled welterweight title clash with Matt Hughes that never came to fruition. A long series of injuries following the injury that prevented what would have been the biggest fight of his career has created the monster that currently haunts Karo today."

[steelba]

great he abuses females drug of choice "pills" :die:

[Freddy316]

Personally - He seems arrogant but hes a good fighter and I was looking forward to the match with Hazelett. I am prett sure the replacement at this stage will not be as good.

I doubt there will be a replacement, way too short of a notice for a fighter to even make weight let alone get any training in. Sucks, I was looking forward to seeing the Hazelett/Karo fight.

[steelba]

Strikeforce looking better with each passing day.

Fedor vs Rodgers > UFC 105


Forrest "Coward" Griffin vs Tito " Whore for a wife" Ortiz :die: :die: :die:

[Freddy316]

Besides Fedor, Strikeforce doesn't really have that many well known big name fighters though. Until they get more big names to sign for them they will always be behind the UFC as far as popularity goes.

[steelba]

Hey i'm not making a dime of of either so I could give an F about their "popularity".

I know I haven't seen 1 good fight from the UFC in a great while, and there isn't 1 fight of theirs that I want to see in the upcoming future.

[Freddy316]

Hey i'm not making a dime of of either so I could give an F about their "popularity".

Yeah but popularity matters because you need it to be successful. Look what happened to EliteXC. The UFC is already bigger then Strikeforce and if it continues to grow at a faster pace then Strikeforce eventually Strikeforce will cease to exist since the UFC will have all the money to sign all the top fighters with them. I hope that doesn't happen because I rather see two successful MMA promotions remain in business since in the end the fans will benefit from the competition.

[steelba]

I would imagine the UFC's popularity has stymied with Brock and everyone else out, and only glorified has-been's fighting now. The cards are embarrassingly bad now.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

Still some good fights comin' up that I'm lookin' forward to.

[Freddy316]

UFC 107 looks good. I'm really looking forward to Penn/Sanchez, I have a feeling that's going to be an exciting fight. Florian/Guida is also on that card which should be another exciting lightweight fight.

[steelba]

Florian/Guida is also on that card which should be another exciting lightweight fight.
Great a gatekeeper vs a 2nd class overrated TUF fighter :bored:

BJ will walk right through Sanchez, no TUF fighters are Elite, Penn is.

Silva vs Belfort is suppose to happen for 108 or 109, be sweet seeing 2 great fighters in a match together.

[Freddy316]

Great a gatekeeper vs a 2nd class overrated TUF fighter :bored:
Whatever classifications you choose to give them, bottom line is Florian and Guida are about equally matched which is what should make it an exciting fight. It's also an interesting contrast of fighting styles. :starefreak:


BJ will walk right through Sanchez, no TUF fighters are Elite, Penn is.

I think Sanchez is going to surprise you at 107. To get an idea of how both fighters compare just look at both of their fights against Florian. Sanchez finished Florian in the first round, it took Penn four rounds. I'm not saying Sanchez will definitely beat Penn, but it should be a close fight.

[steelba]

It was obvious Penn was dragging out that fight to punish Kenny Noname (like A.silve did with Coward Griffin), and guida is tough but loses alot. I'll only be surprised if Penn gets ko'd, he wont get submitted :straightface:

[steelba]

Another great main event, man how do they do it :straightface:

[Freddy316]

I thought it was a good fight, a lot more exciting then the Couture/Vera main event anyway. But the best thing about 106 was watching Little Nog make his UFC debut. He looked impressive. Can't wait to see who they match him up with next.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

I'm with you Freddy.

[steelba]

Disagree with both, but people eat up mediocrity so I expected as much.

Pacman/Cotto :rocker:

[IKickAssForTheLord]

why don't you hush and go back to boxing like you said.

[steelba]

why don't you hush and go back to boxing like you said.
Because this isn't China and we have freedom of speech, you communist.

[Lemmywinks]

What I found most entertaining was Ortiz's list of excuses to why he lost.

[Freddy316]

I'm with you Freddy.
:hi5:


What I found most entertaining was Ortiz's list of excuses to why he lost.
Yeah, I started laughing when he did that especially when he got mad that everyone was booing him for starting in with the excuses. :lol:

[ZION]

Had to post this, yes its a old fight but still funny...
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z24/xanax06/arkhamasylum_fedor.gif

[Lemmywinks]

Had to post this, yes its a old fight but still funny...
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z24/xanax06/arkhamasylum_fedor.gif

Freaking hilarious.

[Aurone]

According to MMAJunkie.com, sources close to the UFC are saying that the proposed middleweight title bout between Anderson Silva and Vitor Belfort will not happen at UFC 109. Silva had bone chips removed from his right elbow in October, and reports are that he is slow to recover, and that he may not be ready to fight until April. The fight was originally going to happen at UFC 108, and was scratched from that card.


http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/123141/Anderson-Silva-Slow-To-Recover,-Not-Fighting-At-UFC-109.htm

And let the bitching commence.

[Lemmywinks]

At this point with all the injuries to his fighters i'm amazed Dana hasn't died of a stroke.

[Aurone]

At this point with all the injuries to his fighters i'm amazed Dana hasn't died of a stroke.

Hey, if one of his crazed blog rants hasn't killed him yet, why should that?

[Lemmywinks]

Hey, if one of his crazed blog rants hasn't killed him yet, why should that?

Heh heh good point. Makes me wonder the pressure he's putting on Diego and Penn to put on a great fight and not get hurt all at the same time.

[Ferox13]

Tuf Finale on Sat - looking forawrd to Matt Hamill vs. Jon Jones.

I think Kimbo should lose to Houston Alexander (at least it will stay standing)

Marcus Jones vs. Matt Mitrione could go either way with Jones winning onthe ground or Matt KTFO him before he gets him there.

[Lemmywinks]

Jones should take it to the ground and use his size to his advantage seeing as his chin is suspect. Matt lands some good shots he will win the stand up game.

[Ferox13]

Jones should take it to the ground and use his size to his advantage seeing as his chin is suspect. Matt lands some good shots he will win the stand up game.

Jones has good stand up too - I think taking hammil to the ground will be easier said than done..

In other news loks like we'll get to see RENZO vs HUGHES :-)

Renzo Gracie Signs Six-Fight Deal With the UFC

-He says he signed for 6 fights

-When asked about his age, he said "age is in the eyes of the beholder, 42 is the new 30!"

-He insists that Matt Hughes will be his first opponent and the score will be 1-1 for Hughes vs Gracies

-He says this will be the first time he’ll fight at his true weight class.

-They said they aren’t supposed to say it but they say its gonna be Matt Hughes (its not 100% established) because he wants to settle the score..

[Aurone]

Wouldn't you know it....Rampage is back!


Quinton "Rampage" Jackson announced on his website that he would return to the UFC to finish out his contract and fight Rashad Evans.

"Now, I wanted to let my fans know that I'm going to come back to the UFC & finish my contract. Not because the haters are talking shit about me being scared of Rashad or Titties or anybody else. I'm coming back for my fans & to shut Rashad's mouth up & shut Dana's mouth up. Then after that I'm going back to doing movies & I might do a boxing match once a year just to stay in shape."

Jackson previously announced his retirement on September 22nd feeling that UFC had disrespected his loyalty and wanting to focus more on his acting career

http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/123649/Quinton-Jackson-Coming-Out-of-Retirement.htm

[Freddy316]

Wouldn't you know it....Rampage is back!

http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/123649/Quinton-Jackson-Coming-Out-of-Retirement.htm
Did anyone not see that coming?

[steelba]

Finally some good news.

[Aurone]

I say if Rampage beats Evans, he should challenge Dana White to a fight.

[LgOr]

Houston Alexander is gonna KTFO of Kimbo hardcore. should be fun

[Darkgod]

hopefully rampage keeps the bug, and stays in MMA... either ufc, or strikeforce or whomever. juist as long as I get to see him fight

[Darkgod]

Fuck rodgers or Fedor, I want ufc to get Mousassi... that man is insane.

[Ferox13]

Fuck rodgers or Fedor, I want ufc to get Mousassi... that man is insane.

Agreed - a lot potential..

I actually just found out that I saw him fight very early in his career against one of the guys from our club. He was unknown then so the name never stuck..

[Aurone]

Mousassi vs Silva?

[Ferox13]

Mousassi vs Silva?

Silva at the moment - Mousassi doesn't have the groundwork yet..

[Lemmywinks]

hopefully rampage keeps the bug, and stays in MMA... either ufc, or strikeforce or whomever. juist as long as I get to see him fight

I agree but not just because he's a great fighter his charisma alone is good for any organization. I stuck with watching TUF to see what Rampage would do or say next.

[Aurone]

http://www.411mania.com/MMA/reports/123777

Here's the results The Ultimate Figher Season Finally if anyone missed it.

[Ferox13]

Wow - I couldn't be so wrong about how the Kimbo fight went...and who the hell gave him a 30-27 score lol...

Jones once again shows he is the real deal..it was a shitty way to lose but i'm not sure what else they could have done. Ironically if Hammill didn't say he was done it would have continued with just a point taken away..

I knew Roy would win but i thought he'd get a gnP stoppage..

McSweeney looked like a different fighter from his two lackluster Tuf displays..

[Aurone]

What the hell was with Alexander? He's beaten 2 veteran fighters, so why be cautious with Kimbo who's technicly new? And no one can deny that Kimbo has improved, if had more expeirence he could of possibly finished Alexander after that wicked suplex. The irony was that people didn't care for Kimbo by the end of the fight but as Alexander constantly was avoiding him, the crowd shifted to Kimbo.

[Freddy316]

I thought they would both come at each other right away, start brawling and basically end with whoever connected first, 50-50 chance for each fighter. Alexander was obviously afraid of Kimbo's power and didn't want to risk being knocked out. Good win for Kimbo, but I don't see him being any match for any of the top level fighters in the UFC. In any case, I will be interested to see who the UFC puts him up against next.

Also, it's clear that both of them need to work on their cardio.
http://i48.tinypic.com/zr59f.gif
:mhehe:

[steelba]

Kimbo :die:

UFC :die: :die:

[Lemmywinks]

Well that finale pretty much sucked.

[steelba]

Well that finale pretty much sucked.
I stopped watching this charade after it's 2nd episode :straightface:

[Ferox13]

I thought it wasn't a bad show...

Jones put on an amazing show - i cannot believe how he manhandled some with Hammills wrestling credentials...

I thought James McSweeney put on a good performance too - he looked way more aggressive than his 2 TUF fights...

[Aurone]

MMA Weekly is reporting that former two time Pride champion Dan Henderson has signed a four fight deal with Strikeforce. It is being rumored that his first fight could be for a Strikeforce title in April on a CBS broadcast card. It is unclear as to whether Henderson would fight in the 185 or 205 lb division. An official announcement from Strikeforce is expected later today.

Good work UFC, you lost one of your very best...

[steelba]

Who cares about the UFC brand name seriously, mindless fckn sheep :dsp:

Strikeforce are all aired free on Showtime or national TV.

When did that scumbag network ever have a Brock Lesnar, or Anderson Silva title match for free on TV?

Henderson vs Mousassi :rocker:
Strikeforce :rock:

[Freddy316]

Who cares about the UFC brand name seriously, mindless fckn sheep :dsp:

How exactly are UFC fans sheep?

Dana's not paying me anything so why would I give a shit about the UFC "brand name"? The reason I'm a UFC fan is the fact that besides Fedor and Hendo, the UFC has pretty much all the top fighters currently competing in MMA. Since I'm interested in seeing the top fighters compete against each other, the UFC is still the #1 MMA choice for me.

That being said, if Strikeforce continues to acquire more of the UFC's top talent, that can all change in time, but as it stands right now the UFC is still the home of the majority of the top fighters in the world.

[steelba]

How exactly are UFC fans sheep?

:lol2:


Since I'm interested in seeing the top fighters compete against each other, the UFC is still the #1 MMA choice for me.

Hahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha :lol2: :lol2:

Top fighters like The Coward Griffen vs Ortiz and Vera vs Couture :lol: :lol: :lol:

The brand is so rigged and watered down it's pathetic, people eat up these nobody TUF fighters like candy, to hell with em.

[Lemmywinks]

Good move by Henderson. He wants a title shot at least Strikeforce will give him one. He destroyed Bisping and gets snubbed.

[Freddy316]

Top fighters like The Coward Griffen vs Ortiz and Vera vs Couture :lol: :lol: :lol:

No, I mean top fighters like GSP, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Machida, Shogun, Rampage etc. I could keep going but why bother, you already know it.

[steelba]

No, I mean top fighters like GSP, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Machida, Shogun, Rampage etc. I could keep going but why bother, you already know it.
After that rigged fight of Machida Shogun :die:

GSP vs Cans, Anderson Silva vs Cans, BJ Penn vs overrated POS TUF fighters. Rampage vs another Overrated TUF fighter, Brock vs Has-beens and Cans..

I like how none of the elite fighters have even remotely close matchups, sans A.Silva. After the last few years on easy street he's now ducking big-time.

[Freddy316]

After that rigged fight of Machida Shogun :die:

GSP vs Cans, Anderson Silva vs Cans, BJ Penn vs overrated POS TUF fighters. Rampage vs another Overrated TUF fighter, Brock vs Has-beens and Cans..

I think your idea of "cans" might be a little to broad. GSP, Anderson Silva and Penn keep winning but it's not because all they face is cans, it's because they are all elite fighters that are a few notches ahead of everyone else in their respective divisions. The guys that they beat would be considered top notch talent in Strikeforce. :stare:

[steelba]

So u believe forrest griffen is as good as gegard mousasi :hmmm:

The talent pool is very shallow in the UFC in terms of matchups. The UFC roster has been rendered impotent by lame lopsided match making to protect their "product".

I am not impressed and haven't seen a good championship fight from them in ages.

At least with Strikeforce you know you're getting the best matchups they can offer, and they aren't as protective of their talent. That meaning a buncha walkthrough fights, like Bisping gets and other inflated nobodies they choose to market to the flock.

[Freddy316]

So u believe forrest griffen is as good as gegard mousasi :hmmm:
When did I say that?

As for everything else, whatever. Thinking about it, I don't even know where all this UFC vs. Strikeforce shit comes from. They always hold their live events at different times anyway so it's not like you ever have to choose one over the other. I'm simply a fan of MMA in general whatever the company.

[Darkgod]

Who cares about the UFC brand name seriously, mindless fckn sheep :dsp:

Strikeforce are all aired free on Showtime or national TV.

When did that scumbag network ever have a Brock Lesnar, or Anderson Silva title match for free on TV?

Henderson vs Mousassi :rocker:
Strikeforce :rock:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_Ultimate_Fight_Night_5

[Darkgod]

After that rigged fight of Machida Shogun :die:

GSP vs Cans, Anderson Silva vs Cans, BJ Penn vs overrated POS TUF fighters. Rampage vs another Overrated TUF fighter, Brock vs Has-beens and Cans..

I like how none of the elite fighters have even remotely close matchups, sans A.Silva. After the last few years on easy street he's now ducking big-time.

penn vs diego sanchez is a good matchup, sure Penn will win but atleast nightmare delivers. Also, once hendo and mousassi fight, who next will be there to give you a good fight. Hendo vs???? Mousassi vs???? Strikeforce doesn't have the depth, until more people jump ship and give good fights they will always be second. Also people need to give up the rigged machida/shogun debate, as much as people claim shogun won... he didn't do shit, he didn't beat Machida. The champ doesn't have to win, he just doesn't have to lose. I agree when I first saw it I thought Shogun won, but after a second look I do think Machida had it.

[steelba]

he didn't do shit, he didn't beat Machida. The champ doesn't have to win, he just doesn't have to lose.
Can it fool, Griffen didn't beat the champ but was gifted a decision, you also claim he took a dive against Anderson Silva :lol2:

POS Dana also said Machida lost and he did, so whatever :stare:

[Aurone]

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:mhehe: