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Ferox13

12-11-2009, 02:01 PM

Excellent:

Hughes-Gracie Likely for UFC 112 in Abu Dhabi

MEMPHIS, Tenn. -- When Matt Hughes announced on his Web site last week that he’d be fighting on April 10, the 36-year-old Illinois native did not divulge whom he would be squaring off with or where UFC 112 would be held. However, the former welterweight champion has been long rumored to be facing Renzo Gracie, 42, who reportedly signed a six-fight contract with the promotion recently.

When Dana White was asked Thursday if the Hughes-Gracie bout would he held in Abu Dhabi –- a location White recently scouted himself –- the UFC President answered cryptically.

“Sounds good to me,” he said, smiling broadly.

Asked about making that match, White noted that he respects a lot of fighters in the sport and implied that not every UFC fight has to have title implications.

“There’s this whole beef over Renzo choking out Pat Miletich (Hughes’ mentor) and sometimes it’s more than just; sometimes guys just want to fight and Renzo’s been training, he wants to fight Matt Hughes and Matt Hughes wants to fight him,” said White.

voodoo

12-11-2009, 07:43 PM

Worlds Strongest Man Maurisz Pudzianowski made his mma debut!
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Darkgod

12-11-2009, 07:52 PM

lol, if he threw that leg kick to anyone with talent he would have been tapped out

3/6

12-11-2009, 07:54 PM

RIP Diego "YES!!!" Sanchez

Darkgod

12-11-2009, 07:57 PM

lol. you know i went and checked his wikipedia thinking he really died. I actually think he does have a chance, better then what kflo had atleast IMO

3/6

12-11-2009, 08:00 PM

lol. you know i went and checked his wikipedia thinking he really died.
:lol2:

I actually think he does have a chance, better then what kflo had atleast IMO
bah, ill be shocked if it goes to the 2nd round.

Darkgod

12-11-2009, 08:02 PM

It mniight, but if anyone has a shot i think sanchez does

Freddy316

12-11-2009, 10:03 PM

bah, ill be shocked if it goes to the 2nd round.
Prepare to be shocked. Penn/Sanchez is going to be a war.

Lemmywinks

12-11-2009, 10:24 PM

Penns cardio is always a question when Diegos is not. Don't be surprised by an upset.

Freddy316

12-11-2009, 10:35 PM

Penns cardio is always a question when Diegos is not. Don't be surprised by an upset.
Cardio is Diego's biggest advantage over Penn. My personal prediction for the fight is Sanchez winning by TKO in the fourth or fifth round. If Diego pushes the pace and makes Penn work Penn may run out of gas by the fourth/fifth round which could leave an opening for Diego to finish him.

The best thing Penn can do is try to finish the fight early because in the later rounds he is going to be at a disadvantage against Diego who is a cardio machine.

3/6

12-11-2009, 10:39 PM

bahh
Penn will get him to the ground and thatll be that.

Darkgod

12-11-2009, 10:59 PM

Diego is nasty on the ground in a defensive position. Look at the guida fight, guida had him on the ground and got destoyed by diego's elbows

3/6

12-11-2009, 11:05 PM

bah

that was a bad ass fight though

steelba

12-12-2009, 11:18 AM

Diego is just another inflated TUF fighter beating up on cans, he'll lose to BJ, wont be competitive.

steelba

12-12-2009, 11:50 AM

Lemmywinks

12-12-2009, 06:48 PM

Cardio is Diego's biggest advantage over Penn. My personal prediction for the fight is Sanchez winning by TKO in the fourth or fifth round. If Diego pushes the pace and makes Penn work Penn may run out of gas by the fourth/fifth round which could leave an opening for Diego to finish him.

The best thing Penn can do is try to finish the fight early because in the later rounds he is going to be at a disadvantage against Diego who is a cardio machine.

Exactly. Just a matter of will Diego be as aggressive as he usually is or be cautious to not fall to an early submission. If it goes past 3 advantage Diego.

Darkgod

12-12-2009, 08:02 PM

Diego is just another inflated TUF fighter beating up on cans, he'll lose to BJ, wont be competitive.

guida isn't a can. maybe his brother but not clay

3/6

12-12-2009, 08:04 PM

guida isn't a can. maybe his brother but not clay

i wouldnt say he beat up on clay

shit went the distance

i gotta say it again though..that fight was sooo bad ass :rock:

Freddy316

12-12-2009, 08:19 PM

Diego is just another inflated TUF fighter beating up on cans
So Nick Diaz who is one of Strikeforce's top fighters at his weight class is a can? Clay Guida is a can? Karo Parisyan (when he was still good) was a can? Interesting definition of "cans" you have.

steelba

12-12-2009, 08:38 PM

Penn by lop sided destruction of Twitchy The Roid Boy.

steelba

12-13-2009, 12:48 AM

Diego is just another inflated TUF fighter beating up on cans, he'll lose to BJ, wont be competitive.

Penn by lop sided destruction of Twitchy The Roid Boy.
:smokin2:

Gilly

12-13-2009, 12:51 AM

Most one sided fight I've seen for a long time. BJ Penn was just unbeatable. One nasty assed cut on Diego's face too.

Freddy316

12-13-2009, 12:55 AM

Gilly

12-13-2009, 12:57 AM

Penn :mad:

Well, he beat the only guy at 155 I thought would give him a good fight. There is no one else in the weight class I can think of that can give him any competition. I'd like to see him move back up to 170.

Surely he doesn't have a choice? He's just taking the piss out of the lightweight class now. It's the same with GSP at 170.

Freddy316

12-13-2009, 01:05 AM

Surely he doesn't have a choice? He's just taking the piss out of the lightweight class now. It's the same with GSP at 170.
Yup, and also with Anderson Silva at 185. Penn, GSP, and Anderson are all true champions of their divisions, it doesn't look like anyone can touch either of them.

Lemmywinks

12-13-2009, 01:12 AM

:smokin2:

I was wrong. Hope that is a joint by the way. :leave:

Gilly

12-13-2009, 01:12 AM

GSP to move up and fight Anderson Silva. It'd be interesting to say the least.

Freddy316

12-13-2009, 01:16 AM

GSP/Silva is a fight I'd pay to see. I wouldn't like GSP's chances if he is unable to get Silva down though.

steelba

12-13-2009, 01:30 AM

GSP vs Silva wouldn't be worth a damn, GSP would get destroyed. GSP is one of my fav fighters and I don't like Silva at all, but GSP himself admits he isn't in the same league with Anderson. Belfort has the KO power to deal with Silva and Anderson keeps pushing that fight back.

Rampage vs Anderson Silva is another good matchup, should be a brawl for 1 or 2 rounds then it will be over.

This is all pointless though as the UFC is now an impotent organization, that only sets up uneven matches. Any great or truly exciting fight wont be happening in the UFC anytime soon if ever again.

Lemmywinks

12-13-2009, 01:35 AM

Wouldn't surprise me if more UFC bigger names move on to Strikeforce. White always claims he puts the best against the best but clearly he isn't doing it.

steelba

12-13-2009, 01:44 AM

. White always claims he puts the best against the best but clearly he isn't doing it.
That has become painfully obvious :2far:

Lemmywinks

12-13-2009, 02:05 AM

That has become painfully obvious :2far:

Steel seriously :takeshots: relax. Dana likes to say when he wakes up bad shit happens well over time he will run out of fighters. GSP,Silva,Penn what more can they prove in the UFC.

Ferox13

12-13-2009, 01:26 PM

Penn :mad:

Well, he beat the only guy at 155 I thought would give him a good fight. There is no one else in the weight class I can think of that can give him any competition. I'd like to see him move back up to 170.

I'd like to see him fight Frank Edgar - though Edgar is a great fighter I still think Penn is on another level..

In other Orgs I'd like to see him up against Aoki/Hansen or Alvarez..

Ferox13

12-17-2009, 04:55 AM

Dan Henderson vs. Jake Shields being finalized for April CBS Strikeforce event

Newly signed Strikeforce superstar Dan Henderson is in "end stage" negotiations to face Strikeforce middleweight champion Jake Shields at the organizations next CBS event in April.

FiveKnuckles.com learned of the impending match-up from sources close to the organization, and though bout agreements have yet to be signed, the fight is in the process of being finalized according to multiple official sources.

Henderson (25-7) is coming off of three-straight wins over Rousimar Palhares, Rich Franklin, and Michael Bisping, respectively, to close out his recent UFC stint. He leaves the organization as one of its top middleweight contenders and gave champion Anderson Silva one of his biggest challenges when the two met at UFC
82 back in March of 2008.

www.fiveknuckles.com (http://www.fiveknuckles.com/mma-news/Dan-Henderson-vs-Jake-Shields-being-finalized-for-April-CBS-Strikeforce-event.html)

Also looks like Big Nog is injured and out of UFC109

Freddy316

12-17-2009, 07:46 PM

Looks like Frank Mir is going to be fighting Shane Carwin at UFC 111 for the interim heavyweight championship while Brock is out with his illness. I was really impressed with Mir's win over Kongo and Carwin has also been really impressive. Should be an interesting fight.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/17236/shane-carwin-confirms-likely-ufc-111-title-fight-agrees-to-meet-frank-mir.mma

Darkgod

12-18-2009, 04:00 PM

Mir shouldnt be there after one fight, hell Nog beat couture he should have a shot as well.

Freddy316

12-19-2009, 10:42 AM

I agree about Nog deserving a shot. Personally I think the winner of Mir/Carwin should fight the winner of Nog/Velasquez to determine the interim champion.

Darkgod

12-20-2009, 10:45 AM

Lemmywinks

12-20-2009, 07:37 PM

thats a good idea, but by that point brock should be back. Personally, the whole interim thing sucks. As much as I love Brock, I say strip him of the belt, have a mini tournament. Mir/Carwin Nog Valesquez ( hell even do it in one night old school) winner is new heavyweight champion. When Brock is able to fight again, he challenges for the belt, no warm up fights no nothing. Just my opinion how it should be.

It should be that way seeing as if Brock does get stripped he immediately gets a shot when healthy. He never lost it in a fight so give him an immediate shot when he is ready.

Ferox13

12-21-2009, 09:22 AM

Wow - no Strikeforce posts...

Good event...The Headliner was a shocker with Smith getting a beating for most of the fight with a variety of kicks only to have Smith come back and ktfo of Le..

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Gilbert Melendez vs Josh Thomson was a barn burner Melendez was the better man..

Ronaldo Souza totally dominated a sluggish Lindland and ended it at the end of round one with an arm triangle (he nearly got an omoplata too...

http://i46.tinypic.com/2duasg2.gif

King mo destroyed Mike Whitehead in round one...

steelba

12-21-2009, 09:49 AM

damn missed it :nervouswreck:

Kung Le :thumbsdown:

Ferox13

12-21-2009, 06:15 PM

damn missed it :nervouswreck:

Kung Le :thumbsdown:

Cung Le has never lost in pro Sanshou (not only that if you ever seen him fight he not only won but did so in spectacular fashion) . He came in to MMA very late in his career and still took tough fights...

He dominated Smith for most of the fight but still lost..

Whats your problem with him...Hes a great fighter...

steelba

12-21-2009, 06:38 PM

I've seen him fight and i'm not a fan, whats your problem with people liking who they choose :stare:

Freddy316

12-21-2009, 07:23 PM

Cung Le has never lost in pro Sanshou (not only that if you ever seen him fight he not only won but did so in spectacular fashion) . He came in to MMA very late in his career and still took tough fights...

He dominated Smith for most of the fight but still lost..

Whats your problem with him...Hes a great fighter...
What tough MMA fights has Cung Le been in? Frank Shamrock was the biggest name he's beaten so far and he isn't exactly a top 10 fighter.

Cung Le is a kickboxer, he has his fancy kicks and that's about it. I wouldn't call him a well-rounded MMA fighter at all. Put him against any top 10 middleweight who has decent BJJ skills and he'd get subbed in no time.

steelba

12-21-2009, 09:17 PM

Agreed with Freddy on this one, and i'll do one better and say throw Kung Le in against another kick boxer, oh say Anderson Silva :stare3:

Freddy316

12-21-2009, 09:36 PM

Agreed with Freddy on this one, and i'll do one better and say throw Kung Le in against another kick boxer, oh say Anderson Silva :stare3:
Anderson Silva vs. Cung Le wouldn't even be a fight it would just be destruction. Not only is Silva a better striker but he also isn't limited to just kickboxing, he's a black belt in BJJ so if a fight goes to the ground he knows what to do (which we saw in his fights with Dan Henderson and Travis Lutter).

In MMA you can't only be good at one thing, you have to be well-rounded in everything. Fedor, Anderson Silva, GSP, and BJ Penn are all perfect examples of truly well-rounded fighters.

steelba

12-21-2009, 09:43 PM

Carwin vs Mir is sounding good to me, finally Douche White threw together something of interest.

Ferox13

12-22-2009, 05:39 AM

By tough fights I mean he has fought people with a lot of experience like Shamrock, Fryklund and Morgan (well after his first 2 fights) rather then him facing an inexperienced kickboxer which would be an easier route...

And Scott Smith is tough as nails and he gave him a great fight..

I never claimed he was top 10....He got into MMA way too late - I was excited when i first heard he was going to fight MMA but i expected him to take 1 or 2 easy fights and still not do so good..

And of course, Anderson Silva is on a way different level to him..

voodoo

12-23-2009, 02:54 PM

I'm thinking Strikeforce is gonna go start pulling of "a TNA" and start signing talent that was either dropped from the UFC or were fed with White's crap...which really isn't such a bad thing come to think of it....

Darkgod

12-24-2009, 06:25 PM

Carwin vs Mir is sounding good to me, finally Douche White threw together something of interest.

mir don't deserve no title match

Aurone

12-24-2009, 06:28 PM

Don Frye has effectively retired from MMA in order to focus on acting according to MMA Weekly. While his competitive urges are still strong Frye is tired of dealing with all the shady promoters.

"I'm pretty much quitting MMA. I've had enough of the (expletive). I'm done with it," announced Frye. "The competitive urges still flow through me, but I'm tired of the (expletive) of the promoters.

"I'm tired of the (expletive) treatment, being lied to and tired of getting bounced checks from people. They can go pound sand as far as I'm concerned."

Frye has been getting some good acting gigs as of late including the new AT&T commercial for the latest Blackberry as well as work on Miami Vice, and Public Enemies.

Frye was one of the pioneers of early MMA competing in the UFC and PRIDE, winning the UFC 8, Ultimate Ultimate 96 tournaments.

http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/125313/Don-Frye-Retires-From-MMA.htm

steelba

12-24-2009, 06:40 PM

mir don't deserve no title match
Sure he does, he's getting his shot just like Brock did.

voodoo

12-27-2009, 11:14 AM

mir don't deserve no title match

Neither did Brock,but that didn't stop him from winning one anyway.

Darkgod

12-31-2009, 03:43 PM

Brock atleast beat a former heavyweight champ before his challenge, where as Mir got destroyed...... DESTROYED by Brock, beat a chump in Kongo, and now gets a title shot because the guy who destroyed him is sick.... sounds shitty. Shouldn't be anywhere near it/

steelba

12-31-2009, 04:05 PM

Brock didn't win shit in UFC and was gifted a belt, college is just that college. Quit being biased and ignorant and realize what the UFC is.

Ferox13

12-31-2009, 05:25 PM

OUCH -nasty sub win today..

http://i50.tinypic.com/29aqhbk.jpg

Darkgod

12-31-2009, 06:17 PM

Brock didn't win shit in UFC and was gifted a belt, college is just that college. Quit being biased and ignorant and realize what the UFC is.

Haha... the same could be said for you and your man crush on Mir. Mir got dominated by the "current" heavyweight champ. He therefore shouldn't be getting a shot at being the interim champ. CArwin I can see, he was next in line to fight brock, so naturally any interim match should have him in it. But Mir.... c'mon, one of the guys who is supposed to be the best ground guy after Minatouro and he gets destroyed on the ground. He can't hang, and shouldn't be there. Let him work his way up again.

Freddy316

12-31-2009, 07:23 PM

But Mir.... c'mon, one of the guys who is supposed to be the best ground guy after Minatouro and he gets destroyed on the ground. He can't hang, and shouldn't be there. Let him work his way up again.
Are you forgetting that Mir made Brock tap out in their first fight? Both fighters have a big win over the other which means a third fight should happen.

steelba

01-01-2010, 06:48 PM

yup.

Darkgod

01-02-2010, 04:11 PM

LOL... a big win. TApping out a green fighter in his second fight. Please Mir, can't hang with brock now.

Freddy316

01-03-2010, 12:03 PM

I don't know why you hold Brock in such high regard, the guy has no real skill he only has his size. Mir only weighed in at 245 when they last fought which was a big factor in him getting overpowered on the ground like he did. Brock had at least a 40 lbs weight advantage.

Mir is up to 264 now and has said he wants to put on even more muscle weight as time goes on.

How is Brock going to be able to beat the much more experienced Mir when Brock will no longer have his biggest advantage which is his size?

IKickAssForTheLord

01-03-2010, 12:49 PM

Good PPV last night. Evans :yes:

Freddy316

01-03-2010, 06:34 PM

Dos Santos. :rockin:

steelba

01-03-2010, 08:08 PM

Dos Santos vs a bum :sleep2:

Freddy316

01-04-2010, 02:10 PM

Dos Santos vs a bum :sleep2:
I wouldn't call Yvel a "bum" but I agree that he is not a top 10. However, Fabricio Werdum was certainly no bum and Dos Santos made short work of him. He also has a TKO win over Mirko and while that may not mean much these days I would still consider it a big win.

Dos Santos is 18-0 in kickboxing and 10-1 in MMA with 8 of those 10 wins being by knock out and the other 2 by submission. I'd say that's impressive.

steelba

01-04-2010, 05:43 PM

I liked Dos Santos but he's too protected now. CroCop has been a complete joke since he stepped into the octagon.

steelba

01-06-2010, 10:12 PM

Lemmywinks

01-08-2010, 03:51 PM

Rampage will knock out Evans in the first round just a matter of how quick.

Apocalypse

01-13-2010, 04:16 PM

Just watched the Rashad Thiago fight, what a fix :lol2:

Thiago beats his ass up in the 3rd then just stands there and doesn't throw anymore since the boss (Dana) wants the Rampage Evans fight to happen. Rampage will win easily, it wont even be close.
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Same thing with The Mir vs. Lesner fight. Mir is supposed to
have world class jujitsu, but he did not even try and get up when growth hormone boy was dry humping him. It does not matter how big the opponent is, a good jujitsu player will work to create space to either pull guard or pop his hips out and escape out the back. Hell Mir did not even try and block the punches lesner was throwing. At first he blocked them and then he just stopped.

Aurone

01-17-2010, 01:41 AM

2 Fights are in the works for UFC in 2010.

According to fiveouncesofpain.com, a Kimbo Slice vs. Matt Mitrione fight is in the works for UFC 113 in Montreal. While Mitrione has not been approached about the fight, it is said that the fighters are considered "highly likely" to fight at the event.

http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/127159/Kimbo-Slice-vs.-Matt-Mitrione-In-The-Works-For-UFC-113.htm

UFC light heavyweight Forrest Griffin (17-6) is in dire need of an impressive win in order to keep his name in the UFC light heavyweight title ranks. After an embarrassing loss to Anderson Silva at UFC 101 and a less-than-impressive split decision win over Tito Ortiz at UFC 106, Griffin's name value has dropped in recent months. However the future could be bright for the season one "Ultimate Fighter" winner.

According to Fighter's Only magazine, Griffin will square off against Antonio Rogerio Nogueira (18-3) at some point in 2010. Nogueira is currently on the sidelines with an ankle injury, but according to reports the two fighters have an invested interest in squaring off this year once he returns from injury.

Nogueira (twin brother of UFC heavyweight Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira) recently made his UFC debut at UFC 106 with a huge win over Luis Cane. He is currently on a six-fight win streak since suffering an upset loss to Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou at PRIDE 33 in 2007.

Credit: Fighter's Only Magazine

http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/127161/Forrest-Griffin-To-Face-Antonio-Rogerio-Nogueira-In-2010.htm

steelba

01-17-2010, 06:00 PM

2 horrible joke fights yay :straightface2:

Aurone

01-17-2010, 06:00 PM

So can we officially say that UFC is MMA's WWE?

steelba

01-17-2010, 06:02 PM

Yes we can and I officially don't give a shit about this label anymore. I am now awaiting the real champs next fight in strikforce.

Apocalypse

01-20-2010, 09:11 AM

2 Fights are in the works for UFC in 2010.

http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/127159/Kimbo-Slice-vs.-Matt-Mitrione-In-The-Works-For-UFC-113.htm

http://www.411mania.com/MMA/news/127161/Forrest-Griffin-To-Face-Antonio-Rogerio-Nogueira-In-2010.htm

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Lil Nog will kill Forrest.

Apocalypse

01-20-2010, 09:14 AM

Yes we can and I officially don't give a shit about this label anymore. I am now awaiting the real champs next fight in strikforce.
ghetr
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Please tell me you are not refering to the man who is so scared to mix it up with a real fighter he has priced himself out of The UFC twice.

steelba

01-20-2010, 11:46 AM

That's not why he isn't fighting in the ufc, perhaps he doesn't want to fight rigged matches where the dictator controls the outcome.

Freddy316

01-20-2010, 12:26 PM

That's not why he isn't fighting in the ufc, perhaps he doesn't want to fight rigged matches where the dictator controls the outcome.
If Fedor shared your beliefs I'm sure he would come out and say it. He doesn't have anything to lose by bashing the UFC if he never plans to fight there.

Personally, I think Fedor would have done good in the UFC, but I do think it's kind of odd that he chose to fight in an org that doesn't have the same level of competition that the UFC has. Maybe he doubts his own abilities?

Apocalypse

01-20-2010, 12:42 PM

No he would rather fight people pulled right out of sams club that have no skill, talent and are slower then shit. Someone tell him that bimbo slice is in The UFC then he will come running.

steelba

01-20-2010, 04:05 PM

how did kimbo even get in the UFC and look at all there setups for TUF winners. Brock has only faced Mir, and 2 other nobodies but everyone worships him, its a joke.

Apocalypse

01-20-2010, 04:23 PM

Agreed! Let me ask you. What do you Jon Jones? I love him, but a lot of people think he is all hype.

steelba

01-20-2010, 05:17 PM

He seems talented but a little green. He could end up being good with some more fights and some added ring age. I like that he's pretty loose with his kicks and takedowns. Better than alot of the recent prospect I will say.

Apocalypse

01-21-2010, 03:39 AM

Good news. Everyones fake wrestler will return this summer.

http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/story/Brock-Lesnar-UFC-return-serious-illness-012010/?gt1=39002

Freddy316

01-21-2010, 12:31 PM

Good. Now we'll get to see either Mir or Carwin beat his ass when he gets back.

Lemmywinks

01-21-2010, 11:17 PM

Mir/Carwin vs Brock and Rampage vs. Evans would make a nice card. AS if Douche white would make that happen.

Apocalypse

01-22-2010, 01:23 PM

I used to hate Rashad until I watched the last TUF. Now I have a lot of respect for him. I can't wait until he kills qj.

steelba

01-23-2010, 02:09 PM

Rashad :die:

Freddy316

01-23-2010, 09:54 PM

Rashad's not as powerful or as good a striker as Rampage, but he is faster and does have some decent KO power of his own. Rampage will likely walk away with the win, but I'm not counting Rashad out.

steelba

01-23-2010, 10:53 PM

he was real impressive in his last two fights :straightface:

Lemmywinks

01-28-2010, 05:23 PM

My favorite Evans moment= He started laughing at Machida then Machida knocked his ass the fuck out. Rampage will knock out Evans.

steelba

01-29-2010, 02:52 AM

Strikeforce Event on Saturday, should be pretty entertaining.

Ferox13

01-29-2010, 06:29 AM

Strikeforce Event on Saturday, should be pretty entertaining.

I don't think its a great card..

Diaz vs Zaromskis might be good though - if Diaz has any sense he'll put take him down..Zaromskis seems strong as fuck though..

I like Manhoef but his refusal to learn the ground game annoys me - I think Lawler with take him down and GnP him..

A football player vs a no namer doesn't really excite me and Sims vs Lashley is a bit of a freak show match...I was a big fan of Sims but he dissapointed me in his Tuf fight....

Don't know the woman Cyborg is fighting but I can't see her losing...

Ferox13

01-31-2010, 12:28 PM

Very weak Strike Force event....

Sims vs Lashley was a joke - the test of strength bit was funny but Wes hasn't learnt a think in years. Losing to that arm triangle really showed this and this fight was just as bad...What was with the arm behind the guard position...

Manhoef v Lawler was weird as fuck...I though he was playing rope a dope but Manhoef destroyed that leg...Strange game plan and stranger that it paid off..I expected him to win but vis GnP..

http://i46.tinypic.com/2ed5imf.gif

Football player vs a no namer was a disgrace - that Can had zero offence. And LOL@ the commentry trying to sell him like WWF..Shocking main card material..

And Cyborg destroyed the other fighter as expected (though she definall was no joke)

I expected way better stand up from Zaromskis. I guess Diaz contant jab in his face stopped his ability to kick..Diaz hands looked good..

Overall a very weak PPV...

steelba

01-31-2010, 11:19 PM

it was weak, but it wasn't a PPV, it was free on showtime.

Freddy316

02-01-2010, 12:43 AM

it was weak, but it wasn't a PPV, it was free on showtime.
Meh, showtime isn't free it's a subscription channel. Doesn't matter though, thanks to sopcast and websites like mmalinker all MMA is free. :2thumbs:

Ferox13

02-01-2010, 05:32 AM

I'd say Dana is the only one who loed that event..

steelba

02-01-2010, 04:28 PM

This Coleman vs Couture fight is a joke, they are both old & washed up. The fact that they're actually charging for people to see this :die:

IKickAssForTheLord

02-01-2010, 05:36 PM

It's why I watch it for free :D. Haven't paid for one since UFC 100.

Freddy316

02-01-2010, 06:23 PM

Coleman/Couture isn't a good main event at all and I certainly won't be paying for it but I'm still looking forward to seeing it. Couture may be old but he still fights like he's in his prime. Coleman is also impressive for his age.

Ferox13

02-02-2010, 05:09 AM

This Coleman vs Couture fight is a joke, they are both old & washed up. The fact that they're actually charging for people to see this :die:

Very poor for a main event alright...Between Couture cage stalling and Colemans lack of gas I can't see ths one being decent in any way..

Looking forward to seeing Demian Maia vs Dan Miller and the Trigg/Serra fight.

I hope they show Rolles Gracie fight (even if it against Al Turk)

Darkgod

02-02-2010, 08:36 AM

how did kimbo even get in the UFC and look at all there setups for TUF winners. Brock has only faced Mir, and 2 other nobodies but everyone worships him, its a joke.

yeah, couture that nobody......

Freddy316

02-02-2010, 07:23 PM

yeah, couture that nobody......
Couture isn't a nobody but Lesnar had at least a 60 lbs weight advantage in that fight. Not really a fair fight considering the huge size difference. Pound for pound Couture is the better fighter of the two.

Darkgod

02-04-2010, 11:21 AM

you missed my sarcasm

Ferox13

02-08-2010, 01:02 PM

Not a good UFC at all..

Coleman seemed to have no game plan at all - don't think he tryed to shoot even once..What did he think would happen playing the clinch game with Randy...As predicted terrrible Main Event.

http://www.mmaspot.net/images/uploads/gif/ufc_109_couture_coleman_gnp.gif

Gracie seemed to gas after 2minutes - I expected a little bit more from him..

Trigg lasts slightly longer than his last fight..

Couldn't believe how Sonnen dominated Marquardt..

Great win for Maia - Miller has nothing for him at all..

steelba

02-08-2010, 02:25 PM

UFC sucks, maybe they'll have some good fights again, some day :straightface2:

Freddy316

02-08-2010, 09:47 PM

Couture :rock:

Lemmywinks

02-08-2010, 10:33 PM

UFC sucks, maybe they'll have some good fights again, some day :straightface2:

We will be waiting awhile like our collective next couple of birthdays maybe.

IKickAssForTheLord

02-08-2010, 10:33 PM

Was suprised Marquardt lost.

Ferox13

02-09-2010, 04:42 AM

UFC sucks, maybe they'll have some good fights again, some day :straightface2:

Its not like the last Strikeforce was any better..

Was suprised Marquardt lost.

I was suprised he lost in that manner for sure..

steelba

02-11-2010, 02:04 PM

Its not like the last Strikeforce was any better..

Last strikforce didn't cost me $45 to see and if you added together all the prices of every UFC PPV in 1 year and the price of a 1 year Showtime subscription there will be a huge deficit.

Belfort/Silva and Mir/Carwin are the only fights I wanna see. Rampage Evans will be a quick win for Rampage and I could care less about Machida and Shoguns rematch. On the flip side i'm looking forward to anyone Henderson, Fedor, or Mousassi fights.

LgOr

02-11-2010, 02:09 PM

whos fighting next week i forgot

Freddy316

02-11-2010, 07:23 PM

On the flip side i'm looking forward to anyone Henderson, Fedor, or Mousassi fights.
Anyone? Even if they are cans? That's what sucks about SF at the moment. They have a few great fighters and a lot of second rate fighters. Hopefully in time that will change because I also want to see Hendo, Fedor and Mousassi fight, but I want to see them fight worthy opponents.

Apocalypse

02-11-2010, 09:50 PM

Apocalypse

02-11-2010, 10:20 PM

UFC Fights I'm interested in seeing.

Nog vs. Cain (Nog will shut this punk up)

Wanderli Silva vs. Michael Bisping (Can Silva Hendo Bisping? Maybe)

Cro Cop vs. Ben Rothwell (Cro Cop will fight, unlike Cain against Rothwell)

Kenny Florian Vs. Gomi (Kenny is my favorite)

Jon Fitch vs. Thiago Alves (Fitch is our hometown hero)

Jon Jons vs. Brandon Vera (If Jon crushes Vera he should be in the title mix)

Mir vs Carwin

Matt Hughes vs. Renzo Gracie ( Battle of the douche bags)

Big Country Vs. Stefan Struve

Freddy316

02-11-2010, 11:25 PM

Silva/Belfort canceled again. This time because Belfort is injured.
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Belfort-Silva-Off-for-UFC-112-22589

I wonder if we will ever see this fight.

steelba

02-11-2010, 11:28 PM

Silva/Belfort canceled again. This time because Belfort is injured.
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Belfort-Silva-Off-for-UFC-112-22589

I wonder if we will ever see this fight.

:mad::mad::mad:

Apocalypse

02-12-2010, 02:59 AM

If The Spider would quit hiding out at 185 it would be nice. They say he normally walks around at 215 to 220. So he should fight at 205, but then he would not be champ would he. Coward!

Ferox13

02-12-2010, 07:02 AM

Matt Hughes vs. Renzo Gracie ( Battle of the douche bags)

Yeah looking forward to this...I think Hughes will take it though...

Why is Renzo a douche - I always thought he came across pretty cool?

Apocalypse

02-12-2010, 10:07 AM

Ever since I seen him fight in a show called World Combat I hated him. After he won he got up and stepped on his opponents neck classless scumbag.

Freddy316

02-12-2010, 11:33 AM

If The Spider would quit hiding out at 185 it would be nice. They say he normally walks around at 215 to 220. So he should fight at 205, but then he would not be champ would he. Coward!
Most fighters in the 185 lbs division walk around at about 210-215 lbs. In MMA it's rare to find anyone fighting at their natural weight, everyone cuts weight. Besides, how is he a coward hiding out at 185 when he also takes fights at 205 and so far has beaten everyone he's faced at 205 in the same dominating fashion he usually beats guys at 185?

As for whether or not Anderson Silva would be champ at 205, I know I would bet on him to beat Machida if they ever fought.

Ferox13

02-12-2010, 11:38 AM

Ever since I seen him fight in a show called World Combat I hated him. After he won he got up and stepped on his opponents neck classless scumbag.

The reason he did was that Ben Spikers and his team spent the whole time hassling Renzo (ringing his room etc and telling Renzo he'd fuck his GF etc) - that was the reason Renzo did what he did...

It was also obviously that he immediatelly regretted it and apologised to Spikers..

Darkgod

02-12-2010, 02:32 PM

They need to lose that 265 lbs weight Limit. There is a shortage of heavyweights. There are a lot of people that can throw down that weigh a lot more than that. Just like Big Country. Dana was pissed he rolled through his boys on TUF. Dana has a great disdain for fat people. Yet the fat man won the show and will continue to fuck up his roided out bitches.

LOL, What did he show you that makes you think he would run wild on the heavyweights... hes supposed to be some mazing ground guy but Nog would destroy him. And his one tactic of laying on someones face wouldn't work since guys like Brock and Cain can power out of that.

And as for Renzo. He owns a home about 20 minutes from me, and his school isn't too far. i met him once at a train station and he truly was a nice guy. No problem with autograph and pictures, and was cool just to talk with. Telling you how he looks at the MMA picture... what he thinks about other fighters etc. etc.

Darkgod

02-12-2010, 02:38 PM

110 doesn't look too bad. I wouldn't pay for it but since I havent paid for a ppv since Couture/Iceman 3 i wont mind watching online.

Apocalypse

02-12-2010, 02:57 PM

I noticed the baby killer q. jackson kept crying when Roy would lay on his boys and beat the shit out of them. Yet he had no problem when Big Pussy would do the same thing. Roy is a smart fighter. Just like he told dana's sorry ass he is not going to come out and throw everything he has in his first fight, because he is going to have to fight 4 or 5 more times and does not want to risk getting hurt. Roy upped his level in each fight after that just enough to win. When it got to the final live fight he did not hold back and he crushed dana's beloved x-football player brenda schuab. Roy will beat the fuck out of barrack lesner.

Apocalypse

02-12-2010, 03:04 PM

Here is a huge list of the fighters I like or love.

Kenny Florian

Jon Fitch

Loyoto Machida

Mauricio Rua

Roy Nelson

Randy Couture

Jon Jones

Josh Koscheck

Michael Bisping

Matt Brown

Shane Carwin

Frankie Edgar

Rashad Evans ( I used to hate him until he coached TUF)

Clay Guida

Dong Hyun Kim

Demian Mia

Joe Lauzon

Nate Marquardt

Gray Maynard

Ross Pearson

Ben Rothwell

George Sotiropoulos

Gleison Tibau

Darkgod

02-12-2010, 03:05 PM

Please you kid yourself. Roys tactic of using weight wouldnt work on brock. Hes a fucking beast who would shrug him off.

Apocalypse

02-12-2010, 03:08 PM

Please you kid yourself. Roys tactic of using weight wouldnt work on brock. Hes a fucking beast who would shrug him off.

/////////////////////////

Roy would not lay on him. He would Ko his ass standing up.

Apocalypse

02-12-2010, 03:12 PM

Roy's stats

Name Roy Nelson
Nick Name Big Country
Record 14 - 4 - 0 (Win - Loss - Draw)
Wins 7 (T)KOs ( 50 %)
4 Submissions ( 28.57 %)
3 Decisions ( 21.43 %)

Losses 1 (T)KOs ( 25 %)
3 Decisions ( 75 %)

Height 6'0" (183cm)
Weight 264lbs (120kg)
Style Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu
Birth Date 1976-06-20
City Las Vegas, Nevada
Country USA

Darkgod

02-12-2010, 03:29 PM

LOL... now I know you are kidding yourself.... and thanks for the stats on roy nelson.

Apocalypse

02-13-2010, 01:28 AM

Oh My Goodness. A while back I seen Demian Maia in his first televised fight and I predicted he would be the one to beat The Spider. Even though he got destroyed by Nate I still did not lose heart in him. Well he is replacing Belfort and fighting The Spider. Go Demian!

Apocalypse

02-13-2010, 02:00 AM

Sweet, I'm still listed on sherdog as a MMA fighter. I fought in 1998 in MMA. I won my first fight, but I quit because I only wanted to hurt people who pissed me off. Fighting for sport was not enough to piss me off enough to hurt someone. I came out of retirement 1 1/2 years ago and got a personal trainer to train me because I hate everyone now, but every time a fight was set up for me the opponent would puss out and not fight. I guess there is something about someone who is 6'3 and weighs 335 lbs and is not a total fat slob scares people. I ran into a promoter who could get me fights, but I would have to turn pro and fight people like Dan Severn and Wes Sims. That is when it was my turn to puss out. I just did not think I had it in me to jump in with one armature fight in 1998 to going pro in 2008-09.

My name is Kent Brown if you give a shit to see if I'm lying or not. I fought Justin Pino. Right now I'm training my 14 year old son to fight in MMA.

Darkgod

02-13-2010, 07:54 AM

Should be good, but Sonnen should have gotten it ahead of him. He was set to fight the winner. so If one can't compete he should jump in.

Darkgod

02-13-2010, 07:56 AM

Freddy316

02-13-2010, 05:20 PM

Maia's going to get KO'd in the first round.

steelba

02-13-2010, 08:32 PM

Waste of a fight, another easy setup for Anderson Silva :die:

Ferox13

02-14-2010, 09:58 AM

How u fighting at 335, when the commission rules limit it to 265. Even amatuer uses the rules.

He fought in '98 - There was no unified rules back then..Even now fights don't have to be sanctioned by the Nevada Athletic Commission (or what ever its called) - there are still unsacntioned bouts..

Its weird though that your fight is listed on Sherdog if it was an amateur one..

voodoo

02-19-2010, 06:55 AM

Big ben replaced with Anthony Perosh,CC by decapitation

Darkgod

02-20-2010, 06:39 PM

Ferox13

02-21-2010, 02:05 PM

my pics for tonight....if anyone wants to gentlemenly bet vs me, let me know
* Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Cain Velasquez Nog Sub
* Wanderlei Silva vs. Michael Bisping Silva KO
* Joe Stevenson vs. George Sotiropoulos Stevenson Dec
* Keith Jardine vs. Ryan Bader Bader Dec
* Mirko "CroCop" Filipovic vs. Anthony Perosh (Ben Rothwell has been sidelined by an illness) CC Knock out

I'll bet against all of those :-)

Overall an okish event Joe Stevenson vs. George Sotiropoulos was a great fight loved it..I can't believe Nog got knocked out again - he really has slowed down since coming to the UFC....

The Chris Lytle vs Brian Foster bout was great too and won with one of my fave subs (the Rolling Knee bar - i love doign this one):

http://i49.tinypic.com/294nhnr.gif

Freddy316

02-21-2010, 09:07 PM

George Sotiropoulos and Cain Velasquez were both very impressive. Looking forward to seeing who each of them gets matched up with next.

steelba

02-21-2010, 09:18 PM

throw him in with Dos Santos.

Lemmywinks

02-25-2010, 09:19 PM

"I want to break his neck in the ring. I want him to be the first person that dies to Octagon-related injuries." - Frank Mir in regards to Brock Lesnar.

Funny stuff next thing ya know if and when they fight again it will be a retirement match where the loser goes to Strikeforce. Of course Mir apologized but still freaking ridiculous. Mike Tyson he is not.

Freddy316

02-25-2010, 10:05 PM

"I want to break his neck in the ring. I want him to be the first person that dies to Octagon-related injuries." - Frank Mir in regards to Brock Lesnar.

I just gained even more respect for Mir. :2thumbs:

steelba

02-27-2010, 01:21 PM

Those statements would be fine if this was Rome, otherwise he's crossed the line.

I read that comment awhile back at mmaforums but didn't care to repeat it.

gs63vette

02-28-2010, 05:50 AM

Some information on Strikeforce's next card was posted a few days ago.

Strikeforce officially announced that their next event will take place on April 17th from the Sommet Center in Nashville, Tennessee. It was also confirmed that the event will air on CBS.

While no fights were officially announced, it is widely believed that Jake Shields will defend his Strikeforce Middleweight Championship against Dan Henderson in the main event.

Also on the card will likely be a Light Heavyweight showdown between Strikeforce Light Heavyweight Champion Gegard Mousasi and Muhammed "King Mo" Lawal. According to Sherdog, Herschel Walker is likely to make his return to the cage at the event as well.

Fedor Emelianenko vs. Fabricio Werdum was originally planned for this event but has been pushed back until May.

Strikeforce and CBS will officially announced the four fight card next week.

Freddy316

02-28-2010, 11:07 AM

I was hoping to see Fedor fight again but Shields/Henderson should be interesting. Sheilds 13 fight win streak is going to come to an end.

Lemmywinks

03-01-2010, 01:20 AM

Those statements would be fine if this was Rome, otherwise he's crossed the line.

I read that comment awhile back at mmaforums but didn't care to repeat it.

I will find it funny if Carwin defeats Mir then all his stupid comments will go to waste for him. On another topic that Strikeforce card for April sounds good.

steelba

03-01-2010, 02:55 PM

good strikeforce card.

Darkgod

03-02-2010, 02:03 PM

Moussassi is the best thing to watch in MMA.... IMO

Lemmywinks

03-02-2010, 11:30 PM

Moussassi is the best thing to watch in MMA.... IMO

Calling him one hell of a fighter is an understatement. The man is a beast.

steelba

03-03-2010, 10:05 AM

Moussassi is the best thing to watch in MMA.... IMO
He is very entertaining and this upcoming fight will be great :smokin2:

Freddy316

03-03-2010, 06:13 PM

Would love to see Mousasi fight Anderson Silva.

steelba

03-03-2010, 07:19 PM

Would love to see Mousasi fight Anderson Silva.
he'd lose.

Freddy316

03-03-2010, 07:35 PM

Would be a good fight.

Darkgod

03-03-2010, 08:32 PM

can never be positve

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steelba

03-03-2010, 10:35 PM

i'd like to see Henderson vs Mousassi, because it could feasibly happen

Freddy316

03-03-2010, 11:09 PM

I don't care about the current feasibility, I was just saying Mousasi/Silva is a fight I would like to see. I'm sure we will see Mousasi/Henderson at some point which should also be good.

Ferox13

03-04-2010, 05:54 AM

Is every one counting King Mo out against Mousasi?

O wouldn't be too sure - i think he might give him problems..

steelba

03-04-2010, 06:27 AM

I don't care about the current feasibility.
Why don't you wish for him to fight the good fighters in the UFC first, something he never does now.

Freddy316

03-04-2010, 12:27 PM

Why don't you wish for him to fight the good fighters in the UFC first, something he never does now.
Not his fault Belfort got injured. What good fighters in the middleweight division has Anderson Silva not fought? He's got wins over Franklin, Henderson, Cote, Marquardt etc. If by that you mean you want to see him fighting in the light heavyweight division more often then yeah, I agree. Personally, I'd like to see him give up the middleweight title and make a permanent move to light heavyweight but that of coarse is up to him.

steelba

03-04-2010, 02:36 PM

Maia iza joke, they shoulda atleast put him against loud mouth Sonnen for entertainment purposes. But yeah I am leaning more towards Light Heavy as Henderson left UFC.

Darkgod

03-04-2010, 04:04 PM

Who cares about silva, hendo or mousassi... why are we not talking about the return of Herschel Walker :die:

IKickAssForTheLord

03-04-2010, 05:34 PM

James Toney signed a contract to the UFC :yfreaked:

Freddy316

03-04-2010, 09:13 PM

James Toney signed a contract to the UFC :yfreaked:
:dsp: Put him against any decent grappler and he will get taken down and subbed in no time.

steelba

03-04-2010, 09:44 PM

:dsp: Put him against any decent grappler and he will get taken down and subbed in no time.
Put him against Forrest Griffen :rock:

Lemmywinks

03-04-2010, 10:27 PM

:dsp: Put him against any decent grappler and he will get taken down and subbed in no time.

Unless its Tim Sylvia in which Toney would quickly knock him out. Happened before when he met a old fart washed up boxer.

Lemmywinks

03-04-2010, 10:34 PM

James Toney signed a contract to the UFC :yfreaked:

And Andre Arlovski signed with Strikforce.

steelba

03-04-2010, 10:36 PM

Arvlovski gonna be ruined after Fedor

Lemmywinks

03-04-2010, 10:40 PM

Arvlovski gonna be ruined after Fedor

Just trying to imagine how much of a first round we would see before Fedor knocks his jaw off.

Darkgod

03-04-2010, 10:59 PM

why would anyone wanna see that again...

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steelba

03-04-2010, 11:12 PM

agreed, thats why i think he's done.

Darkgod

03-05-2010, 06:10 PM

He's gonna be used as feeder I think... make grim rogers and lashley look good.... though I think he could take lashley

IKickAssForTheLord

03-05-2010, 06:14 PM

I like the pitbull :( And yes I know he's going down hill real quick.

Freddy316

03-05-2010, 07:13 PM

Yeah Arlovski is coming off two big losses, but before that he had a pretty good win streak going. Plus he's only 31 so he's not even old. I'm going to wait and see how he does with his next fight before I determine if he's truly done or not.

IKickAssForTheLord

03-05-2010, 07:18 PM

I'll always like Arlovski, not matter if he gets his ass kicked.

steelba

03-08-2010, 01:01 PM

He's ok but alot of fighters don't do well after Fedor defeats them.

Lemmywinks

03-08-2010, 04:26 PM

He's ok but alot of fighters don't do well after Fedor defeats them.

True just ask Tim Sylvia.

steelba

03-08-2010, 04:30 PM

:lol:

Darkgod

03-13-2010, 11:00 AM

steelba

03-13-2010, 11:48 AM

Saw that clip, poor tim..

Freddy316

03-13-2010, 07:07 PM

I don't think Timmy trained at all for that fight.

Freddy316

03-13-2010, 07:10 PM

Liddell vs. Franklin. Should be a good fight, better then Liddell/Ortiz anyway. Wonder why Ortiz had to pull out.
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=10947&zoneid=2

steelba

03-13-2010, 07:21 PM

Ortiz is done, if forrest beats you, you're nothing.

Lidell is gonna get ko'd, and will be even fatter now.

Freddy316

03-13-2010, 07:24 PM

Liddell will probably get ko'd but he can still throw bombs, he might catch Franklin.

Lemmywinks

03-13-2010, 07:25 PM

Regardless is a win over Liddell even that significant anymore?

steelba

03-13-2010, 07:31 PM

Nope.
Franklin should be able to get in close enough, with chuck's open armed, winging punches style. Franklin is another has been, who was good against average to decent competition, but got handled by the elite fighters.

Darkgod

03-13-2010, 07:36 PM

Liddel will take care of Franklin. Franklin is overated

Lemmywinks

03-13-2010, 07:41 PM

Wouldn't consider either one over or underrated. This is a battle of the washed ups to see who continues to get one last chance until they lose again.

steelba

03-15-2010, 02:01 PM

Both are well past their prime and just check collecting these days.

steelba

03-16-2010, 07:49 PM

Pretty funny interview by Frank Mir on his upcoming bout with Carwin, then rants on Lesnar, and his desire to fight Fedor.
http://www.aroundtheoctagon.com/?p=3453

Lemmywinks

03-17-2010, 03:21 PM

Well if he decided to drive where Fedor was waiting Mir wouldn't be driving himself back. I did chuckle on his last comment about Brock being his moby dick. "Hes big, hes white and hes a dick."

Freddy316

03-17-2010, 03:36 PM

Mir :rock:

steelba

03-19-2010, 04:35 PM

Free UFC on VS channel, Sunday night.
Some good match-ups actually.

Freddy316

03-19-2010, 04:44 PM

Yeah, looks like a good card. Vera/Jones should be interesting, also looking forward to Dos Santos/Gonzaga. Sucks that the Guida fight isn't going to be televised though.

steelba

03-19-2010, 04:56 PM

Guida is shot, that style isn't built for longevity.

Darkgod

03-20-2010, 09:22 AM

But it's built for entertainment. He's 100 % balls to the wall action

Lemmywinks

03-20-2010, 01:06 PM

Haven't seen a boring Guida fight yet odd they wouldn't televise it.

Freddy316

03-20-2010, 05:19 PM

Haven't seen a boring Guida fight yet odd they wouldn't televise it.

Agreed especially considering all the fights they are televising are all in the heavier weight classes middleweight, light heavyweight, and heavyweight. There are no lightweight or welterweight fights being televised. You would think they would televise at least one fight from the lighter weight classes. :shrugs:

Darkgod

03-20-2010, 06:39 PM

Haven't seen a boring Guida fight yet odd they wouldn't televise it.

agreed 100%, him and sanchez was awesome

steelba

03-20-2010, 09:46 PM

Sanchez would get an easy W, wouldn't last very long either.

Freddy316

03-20-2010, 09:58 PM

Sanchez would get an easy W, wouldn't last very long either.
:scratch: Sanchez and Guida already fought and it was a kick ass fight that went all 3 rounds, nothing easy about it. Unless you're talking about if they were to fight again?

IKickAssForTheLord

03-20-2010, 10:06 PM

Guida is the man! Never a boring fight with him.

steelba

03-21-2010, 01:09 AM

yup, like I said he's done now :straightface2:

IKickAssForTheLord

03-21-2010, 01:11 AM

Nope. :straightface:

steelba

03-21-2010, 01:18 AM

yes :straightface2:

Freddy316

03-21-2010, 01:25 AM

Guida's only 28 how can you say he's done? I don't think he'll ever win the title, but he's still got a lot of good fights left in him.

IKickAssForTheLord

03-21-2010, 01:26 AM

Agreed.

Darkgod

03-21-2010, 07:06 PM

yeah hes not championship material, but I'd rather watch some of is matches more then some of the champions.

steelba

03-21-2010, 07:13 PM

He's gonna start getting tko'd like crazy unless they spoon fed him weak competition.

Darkgod

03-21-2010, 07:25 PM

I dont know if your confusing him with his brother or something, but the guy has got a chin.

http://www.mma-core.com/videos/_Diego_Sanchez_vs_Clay_Guida_TUF_9_Finale?vid=10005354

wach with 201 left in te first. He already has a broken nose.

IKickAssForTheLord

03-21-2010, 07:57 PM

I have no idea what Steelba is talkin' 'bout.

Darkgod

03-21-2010, 08:27 PM

no one does

steelba

03-21-2010, 08:33 PM

whatever guida fanboys.

Darkgod

03-21-2010, 08:44 PM

lol... not so much a fan boy just got some good fights to watch

steelba

03-21-2010, 10:55 PM

Pretty sweet deal, wish the 1st fight wouldn't have gotten stopped, but whatever.

Darkgod

03-22-2010, 08:07 AM

yeah that sucks for the first fight... irvin looked like a step slower then usal, probally from the weight cut he did. Buentello couldn't match up to Kongo unless they stood up, Kongo knew that and just took him down to easily. As for Kongo, I think a rule should be warnings carry over from fight to fight... the guy always gets one warning for either his elbows, or hitting in the back of the head. I also couldn't stand goldberg saying Kongo should be in the heavyweight disccusion. That pre-lim knockout was sweet, a few extra shots but still good. Dos Santos looked nice, but I think Gonzaga is a bit overated. Santos has some sick power though. Jones looked awesome vs Vera. Took him down with ease, and his ground and pound was tight. That elbow was sick.

steelba

03-22-2010, 10:51 AM

Agreed 100% on Gonzaga, he's never been good, and after watching Dos Santos wreck him I feel Carwin is in for his first loss next Saturday. Jon jones was the only surprise to me on the card, i thought Vera could abuse his Muai Thai, but I thought wrong :D

Freddy316

03-22-2010, 02:27 PM

Vera hasn't been impressive at all since he dropped to light heavyweight. Bones Jones looked good, can't believe the guy has an 84" reach that's a great advantage to have. Good win for Kongo but he doesn't have what it takes to compete with the upper level fighters of the heavyweight division. I'm looking forward to seeing who Dos Santos will fight next, hopefully Cain Velasquez - both those guys have been unstoppable since coming to the UFC.

Darkgod

03-22-2010, 02:35 PM

Jones is insane... he is basically a wrestler, but doesn't have a wrestlers body.

steelba

03-23-2010, 03:32 PM

111 should be good, GSP by total domination again, Mir via TKO or Sub.

Freddy316

03-23-2010, 04:40 PM

111 should be good, GSP by total domination again, Mir via TKO or Sub.
I agree with both predictions. I can't stand Hardy so I'm going to enjoy seeing him get completely owned by GSP. Carwin has been impressive so far but he's never faced anyone on Mir's level before and it's also been over a year since Carwin's last fight so you got to assume he's got some rust. I see Mir winning most likely by sub or TKO like you said. I'm also looking forward to Fitch/Alves, who in my opinion are the #2 and #3 welterweights in the UFC right now. That one is harder to predict but I'm going to go with Alves winning by TKO or decision.

steelba

03-23-2010, 08:18 PM

Agreed with Thiago, although like you said it's a tuff one.

Darkgod

03-23-2010, 08:19 PM

I think carwin is gonna own mir, and even though I think GSP is gonna win. I don't think it'll be a total domination

steelba

03-24-2010, 02:40 PM

Sweet now I know i'm right :rock:

Darkgod

03-24-2010, 02:53 PM

wanna bet on mir/carwin?

steelba

03-24-2010, 03:27 PM

sure

Darkgod

03-24-2010, 03:37 PM

ok so to be official... i have carwin u have mir, loser has to post in his sig what winnner wants

steelba

03-25-2010, 02:11 AM

I wanna know what u want me to sig ahead of time if we do it.

steelba

03-25-2010, 10:52 PM

F it, you have no spine.

Freddy316

03-26-2010, 06:19 PM

Dammit! Thaigo Alves had to pull out of his fight with Fitch! :mad:
Now it will be Ben Saunders vs. Jon Fitch. Going to be an easy win for Fitch. Oh well.
Hopefully whatever is wrong with Alves isn't too serious.
http://www.mmamania.com/2010/3/25/1389697/thiago-alves-pulled-from-ufc-111

steelba

03-26-2010, 06:38 PM

My friends are ordering the 111, I think i'll skip it though, since there will likely be more than 20 people there.

Sux for Dana all his fights are getting f'd up :hehe:

Lemmywinks

03-27-2010, 05:35 PM

My friends are ordering the 111, I think i'll skip it though, since there will likely be more than 20 people there.

Sux for Dana all his fights are getting f'd up :hehe:

It's karma swimming up and biting Dana in the ass which he deserves. I think GSP will pretty much dominate the fight and decide when he wants to end it. AS far as Mir/Carwin I would like to see Carwin win but figure Mir will catch him by submission.

steelba

03-27-2010, 06:36 PM

Eh I am only really interested in the Mir fight, GSP vs :sleep2:

Freddy316

03-27-2010, 07:33 PM

GSP/Hardy is going to be a one-sided fight for sure. I hope after this win GSP makes the decision to move up to middleweight since there are no real challenges left for him at welterweight.

IKickAssForTheLord

03-27-2010, 08:10 PM

GSP, Mir, & Killer Bee :rocker:

steelba

03-27-2010, 11:41 PM

SPOILERS

Man.. Mir got absolutely crushed :yfreaked:

Lemmywinks

03-28-2010, 12:33 AM

I am happy Carwin won and Lesnar is next.

Freddy316

03-28-2010, 01:01 AM

slasherman

03-28-2010, 02:31 AM

Very impressed with Carwin. Now you can add Mir to the long list of fighters he's finished in the first round and Lesnar will be the next name added to that list. Total domination by GSP as expected, but I really thought he was going to get the finish. As much as I hate Hardy I got to give him credit for being able to hang in there for all 5 rounds.

I'm still not ready to say that Carwin can finish Lesnar in the first round only because Lesnar will try to ground him and won't stay with the stand up like Mir did, I thought Mir would easily work Carwin and came away very impressed by Carwin's power. GSP's fight was once again uneventful, Hardy impressed me by being able to escape some serious looking submissions but until someone can wrestle as good as GSP he will retain his belt, hopefully he can jump up weight to get some competition.

steelba

03-28-2010, 12:01 PM

Carwin should be able to beat the shit out of Lesnar, it will depend on if he can avoid the bull rush/smother style Brock needs to win. That being said i'm sure he can brock has only size and minimal skill. As far as GSP at middleweight I really don't wanna see that, he already cannot finish the best welterweights. So him at middleweight just means every fight will go the distance and be like last nights. Unless he fights Anderson Silva, which would result in a quick KO defeat, Serra did it, Silva would not have any problems.

Having Anderson Silva actually fight worthy opponents would be much better, and making him move to 205 would be sweet. Sadly he isn't as good as the hype and hand picks inferior opponents regularly. But hey it's Dana's parade and he will always offer up the most uneven matches possible for as-long as possible until fighters are past their prime.

Darkgod

03-28-2010, 12:15 PM

So your gonna skip out since i didn't post what i wanted before?

:die: I proved again my superior MMa knowledge. Called Carwin destroying Mir... and thats what he did. Now Carwin is gonna get stopped by lesnar. He's not gonna be able to hold Lesnar up against the cage, and Lesnar isn't gonna stand and bang. People keep saying how Lesnar is no skill, yet he proves it when he gets a guy down, and is quick enough and skilled enough to position himself to drop those blows. Yes the guys number 1 tactic is dropping bombs, but he knows hot to get into the position to do it.

steelba

03-28-2010, 12:18 PM

You had all week to reply and I saw you posting in the Wrestling thread long after I posted here, so don't come at me with that. I'm still up more on calling the main events than you, although Mir F'd me here.

Freddy316

03-28-2010, 01:20 PM

Now Carwin is gonna get stopped by lesnar. He's not gonna be able to hold Lesnar up against the cage.
Randy Couture was doing a good job of controlling Lesnar up against the cage and he's only 220 lbs. You can look at Carwin as a much bigger/stronger version of Couture. Lesnar is in trouble.