MMA Thread

[dead breed]

This is the MMA thread. Talk about UFC or whatever. Since every other sport has a thread, why not this!?

[IKickAssForTheLord]

finally... anybody see the Last PPV?

Anybody gonna watch the free one on Saturday?

[Driden]

The last UFC show sucked ass for the most part. Koscheck got owned. Did you see how pissed Diego was in the crowd? lol. I missed Bodog (damn those ringgirls are crazy hot!), I saw Art of War 3 though. it's sad how Mauro still talks about Bas.

WEC show is on tomorrow (free, you guys might know 2 fighters on that show)
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UFC on Sat.
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Not much too say most of these fights are one sided. Sakara is fun to watch he always brings it. Kongo vs Cro Cop.. nice matchup.. I never liked Cro Cop, I always thought he was overrated since winning the GP.. the guy fights a bunch of MWs, a beat down Barnett and has the nerve to say he's back, then runs away from Fedor, gets in the UFC and gets ktfo lol.

Anyway, my biggest fight is Hendo and Rampage.. man.. Hendo can win this fight but if he fights the way he did with Misaki or Silva he's done... but Hendo has a great chin and great takedown/wrestling. Rampage has improved his hands.. I think Hendo can win this fight on the ground.. either way it'll probably be an exciting decision lol

Bisping must lose! (but he wont) They are hyping this guy up sooo much and he isnt that good. speaking of good, I heard the UFC declined Denis Kang! whoa wtf, Denis Kang kicks ass.

[dead breed]

Bisping is overated and is being built up ... this time in 3 years no one will remember him.

Im looking forward to Saturday sooo much. Its good that the UFC have these free shows and what not.


Cro Cop better win this fight Saturday or he's finished.
Id love to see The Hammer win his fight.
and Jackson can lose this fight easily imo if he doesnt be careful.
Im also looking forward to Gleison Tibau Vs. Terry Etim ... should be good

[Apocalypse]

Dan by Ko over jack ass son

Matt over Bisping

Cro Cop by brutal KO

I can't wait for my boy Shogun on sept 22.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

I just want Matt Hamill to win...He's the man, he probably one of my FAV.

[Driden]

Shogun in the UFC will be great. I can't wait for him to throw some super street fighter hurricane kicks at the start of the fight then put on a bjj clinic on griffin. Griffin's only hope is standing up and keeping distance since Shogun's punches are sloppy, Shogun's chin isn't the greatest but his recoup is good. then again Forrest took a beatdown from Jardine who hits harder than Shogun (unless Shogun gets in the clinch, his knees break shit) forrest can only win via decision by running away and controlling the standup and avoiding takedowns, clinch and Shogun's pushes forward. Without stomps and kicks to the face Shogun has no ko power, so I wouldn't expect a ko. Shogun has really went bjj his last few fights.

I'd go Shogun by embarrassment coming out early aggressive, getting a takedown and finishing via early submission. The only guys I think Shogun would have trouble with atm is Babalu (this guy is done though), Hendo, and Sokoudjou. Liddell could beat him but his ground game is soo bad that I have to favor my guy

[dead breed]

Don't forget the free show is on Spike TV tonight!!!!

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Going to be kick ass.

[steelba]

Thanks for the reminder, i'm gonna check it out :coolbeer:

[3/6]

hell ya....6 more hours

rampage bout to go nuts

[Driden]

according to Jordan Breen (the internet's biggest MMA guru and predictor) says Rampage will dominate this fight because Hendo doesn't use his wrestling, inferior fighters can take him down and all he has for standing is a hard right hand. Rampage is too fast, to skilled but he wont be able to put him away so he claims it will be a test for Rampage if he can last 5 rounds and not get discouraged aka heart of a champion

[IKickAssForTheLord]

oh u know I be watchin' this! Wanna see my boy Matt beat that england dude.

[Belcebu]

Can't wait to watch Bisping vs. Hamill.... the fight that should have happened on the show

[IKickAssForTheLord]

Can't wait to watch Bisping vs. Hamill.... the fight that should have happened on the show

true, I've been waitin' for this for awhile.

[Belcebu]

Kind of sucks that they want to make us believe that is LIVE and that these guys are fighting at 4:00 am in London...

[IKickAssForTheLord]

yea I know... thats why I can't check espn.com cuz my friend told me the main event results r on it... so that kinda ruins it.

[Gilly]

Bisping is overated and is being built up ... this time in 3 years no one will remember him.


Yeah, he's totally overrated. 14 fights, 14 wins, 9 by knockout, 4 by submission, and 1 by decision. damn he's overrated.

Don't you mean you don't like him?

[Belcebu]

Must be nice to fight at home!!! Bisping got whooped in this fight. Hamill had the first round for sure, the second one could have gone either way and the final round I give to Hamill as well, mainly because he had 3 take downs. I feel bad for Hamill and Bisping is a complete ass, he is lucky Hamill didn't hear him say "Back to wrestling" right after you got dominated at his own game (stand up)... even the people of London were booing him after the fight and cheering for Hamill. What a bunch of bullshit that was. How can a judge be 30-27 Hamill and the other two see it 29-28 Bisping... were they watching the same fight??? I am beginning to question a lot of the UFC decisions.
Cro Cop... should just retire, UFC is not for him.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

Must be nice to fight at home!!! Bisping got whooped in this fight. Hamill had the first round for sure, the second one could have gone either way and the final round I give to Hamill as well, mainly because he had 3 take downs. I feel bad for Hamill and Bisping is a complete ass, he is lucky Hamill didn't hear him say "Back to wrestling" right after you got dominated at his own game (stand up)... even the people of London were booing him after the fight and cheering for Hamill. What a bunch of bullshit that was. How can a judge be 30-27 Hamill and the other two see it 29-28 Bisping... were they watching the same fight??? I am beginning to question a lot of the UFC decisions.
Cro Cop... should just retire, UFC is not for him.

ur tellin' me... Hamill had that fight!!! I don't see how he lost! I was so pissed. and Cro Cop hahahaha all I gotta say.

[dead breed]

ur tellin' me... Hamill had that fight!!! I don't see how he lost! I was so pissed. and Cro Cop hahahaha all I gotta say.

I agree Hamill had that fight...totally. He had so many take downs and easily had round 1 and 3. Cro Cop is finding it hard to adjust. Big win for Congo tonight though. The main event was meh...kinda boring...the only way Jackson was going to lose that fight was by ko or submission. I knew if it went all the way Jackson would take it.

Also keep your eyes out for Houston...he's going places in the UFC, just give him time.

I dunno, I get the feeling the UFC are protecting certain fighters though, could just be me....but I dunno.

Overall I enjoyed the show.

[dead breed]

Yeah, he's totally overrated. 14 fights, 14 wins, 9 by knockout, 4 by submission, and 1 by decision. damn he's overrated.

Don't you mean you don't like him?

He's being protected, hand fed half shit fighters. They thought Hamill would just be another, but he showed he had balls. Hamill had that fight won tonight hands down. He easily had round 1 and 3.

[Freddy316]

Hamill clearly won that fight. The two judges that scored in favor of Bisping need to be fired. What disgusted me just as much as the decision was Bispings total lack of class at the end of the fight when he said Hamill should go back to wrestling. Bisping knows he got his ass kicked in that fight and not only does he not give any credit to Hamill but he has the nerve to say he should go back to wrestling. What a disgrace. I couldn't even enjoy the Jackson/Henderson fight because I was so pissed at the end of Bisping/Hamill.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

Yea, it was a pretty good event... yea houston does mean business. Damn 2 quick fights. Yea u know how I feel 'bout the hamill fight... and the main event was alright, Wanted henderson to win.

[realizm]

yea i thought Hamill clearly won that fight

[Belcebu]

Fuck Bisping!!! I am still pissed off about the outcome of this fight. He is scum, "Back to wrestling" are you kidding me?? this "wrestler" just showed you up!!! on your ground, on your terms, and all over the mat!! I refuse to watch this jerk-off again.
How I wish Hamill could have heard that comment...

[Driden]

Rampage went as people predicted. Houston omg this guy is crazy like Cyborg but actually good. I can't wait to see this guy again. Bisping is a bitch. It's pretty obvious the UFC wants to build him up, they were in England. I laugh because there is people out there that thought Pride had awful decisions because of the yakuza.. well the UFC just had one and it isn't the first Bonnar vs Jardine was another.

Cro Cop? dude you suck ass you one dimensional POS. I knew you went downhill since Fedor whooped you but I didn't think THIS much. now I'm questioning your whole career! Poor UFC, spending soo much money on this guy and only to get beat not once but twice by up and coming nobodies.

[Freddy316]

I hope Bispings next fight is against Houston Alexander. The judges won't be able to help Bisping when he's knocked out cold in the fiirst 30 seconds of the fight. :D

[dead breed]

I hope Bispings next fight is against Houston Alexander. The judges won't be able to help Bisping when he's knocked out cold in the fiirst 30 seconds of the fight. :D

If that ever happened, I'm sure the judges would find a way to make Bisping win :dsp: I really dislike that cocky son of a bitch though. At least have some class after a match. :cussing:

[Driden]

For those wondering who's #1 205lber I have to say it's Shogun. hear me out. Here's my post at another forum.


belts don't mean shit other than extra pay, sponsers and fans. rankings imo come from who you fight.


Rampage beats Liddell but then losses to Silva, beats Arona, losses to Silva, losses to Shogun. at this point people called him done, not even top 10 on many lists. then he beats Liddell, then Hendo.

Shogun beats Rampage, beats lil nog, beats Overeem, beats Arona, beats overeem again

Rampage would win then lose the rank he gained. So now he's sitting on the top 10 charts because he beat 2 champions back to back. Meanwhile Shogun has been beating top 10 guys constantly and yet to lose in his weightclass in almost 4 years and holds more top wins is being pushed down?

Who's #1? Rampage fans will say he beat 2 top guys in a row, but Shogun beat 4 top guys in a row. People will say Rampage beat 2 champions but Shogun beat 4 top 10 guys without any losses in between his wins (in his weight class)

People throw belts around but we all know if Shogun and Silva weren't that tight Shogun would have had that Pride belt (not to mention he won the GP belt). What people don't understand is Hendo wasn't ranked very high at LHW, he beat Silva for the belt but he became #1 for beating Silva? it didn't work for Arona. I think people are seeing belts and confusing themselves

Shogun is still #1 by a tiny hair imo

[cmurdur]

London judges can't count. the metric system screwed Hammil.

[cmurdur]

Rampage in his second pro. fight, just watch.
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[IKickAssForTheLord]

Wasn't never a real big fan of rampage anyways... I just wanna see him get knocked out.

[dead breed]

Rampage should gain the extra pound and fight with the big boys.

[Apocalypse]

I watched the Henderson Vs. Jackson fight last night.


I scored

Rd 1 Dan

Rd 2 Draw

Rd 3 Dan

Rd 4 Jackson

Rd 5 Dan

I don't see how they gave it to Jackson. Either Dan won it or it was a Draw.

[Freddy316]

As much of a Henderson fan I am, Jackson clearly won that fight. He took Henderson down numerous times and was able to control him on the ground. (Which really surprised me considering how good a wrestler Henderson is). I thought Jackson for the most part did better on the stand-up as well.

[steelba]

As much of a Henderson fan I am, Jackson clearly won that fight. He took Henderson down numerous times and was able to control him on the ground. (Which really surprised me considering how good a wrestler Henderson is). I thought Jackson for the most part did better on the stand-up as well.
I agree.
Jackson dominated him.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

London judges can't count. the metric system screwed Hammil.

the thing is. 2 judges were from the USA and 1 judge was from London. the 1 judge from london said hamill won and the other 2 said MB won.

[Oravear]

the 10 point system is horrible for mma

[Freddy316]

I say to hell with decisions. No matter how long it takes, the fight should just keep on going until there is a KO/TKO, a submission, or one of the fighters dies from exhaustion. :D

[cmurdur]

well, the UFC 76 main event hosts two guys who got embarrassed by a giant black man in their last fight. but, I think the Ice Cube gets the win here because Jardine isn't on the same level as Charles.

[fcolosimo]

You guys think Matt is cool... you should know him in person... real down to earth guy. I am good friends with him, he lives here in good old Utica NY... the whole area is down about this fight... got completely screwed..

Is it me, or does 76 look kinda boring???

[steelba]

He got beat, not screwed.

[Driden]

FYI tonight is the EliteXC show on Showtime (check your listings)

Robbie Lawler vs Murilo Ninja Rua
Nick Diaz vs Mike Aina
Joey Villasenor vs Riki Fukuda
Jake Shields vs Renato Verissimo
Gina Carano vs Tonya Evinger
Lim Jae-Seok vs Brandon Wolff
Kala Kolohe Hose vs Jeff Cox
Mark Oshiro vs Nui Wheeler
Mark Kurano vs Jose Diaz
Tyson Nam vs Albert Manners
Justin Buchholz vs Ikaika Choy-Fu (Buchholz R1 TKO)
Elias Delos Reyes vs Chico Cantiberos (Reyes R1 Armbar)




AND Wes is the next Fight Night and TUF season and next Sat is another UFC

[IKickAssForTheLord]

anybody watchin' the UFC tonight?! its been a Great show!! and the the UF is gonna be on after... I can't wait!

[Apocalypse]

Shogun by assassination

Keith by KO

Fitch by KO ( hometown boy)

[Apocalypse]

ROTHLMFAO

Battle of the loud mouth bitches. Chris Leben KO'ed Terry Martin

Also my boy Kenny Florian beat the f**k out of Din Thomas. That is for making racist comments Din you little bitch.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

ROTHLMFAO

Battle of the loud mouth bitches. Chris Leben KO'ed Terry Martin

Also my boy Kenny Florian beat the f**k out of Din Thomas. That is for making racist comments Din you little bitch.

That Chris Leben fight was a pretty good fight... and what did Din say that was racist?! I must have missed that.

[3/6]

i love MMA...ufc,pride, theres a shit load of more leagues now..anyways...dont gt me wrong i love watchin people beat te fuck outa eachother..but this shit gets rather boring..im talkin bout when the dudes are on the ground dry humping eachother...they need to make a rule...like after a minute of rollin around on the ground i think "big" jon mccarthy, or whoever the ref might be..should be able to breeak it up and have em go at it toe to toe..i dunno...thats just me

[Apocalypse]

They do this all the time if the fighter they are trying to build up is getting his ass kicked. See Cro Cop vs. Gaberial Gonzaga for example.

[cmurdur]

stupid ass Terry Martin. made me lose 350 vCash.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

stupid ass Terry Martin. made me lose 350 vCash.

Terry had that fight until he clocked Chris a good one and then chris caught him wit a nice left.

[cmurdur]

he just had to get all cocky. did anyone else hear about Maynard's fight?

[cmurdur]

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[IKickAssForTheLord]

lol thats awesome.

[Driden]

MAIN CARD

* Keith Jardine vs Chuck Liddell
* Mauricio Shogun vs. Forrest Griffin
* Jon Fitch vs. Diego Sanchez
* Kazuhiro Nakamura vs. Lyoto Machida
* Thiago Tavares vs. Tyson Griffin

UNDERCARD

* Rich Clementi (R2 RNC) vs. Anthony Johnson
* Diego Saraiva vs. Jeremy Stephens (R3 Decision)
* Scott Junk vs. Christian Wellisch (R1 Heel hook)
* Michihiro Omigawa vs. Matt Wiman (R3 Decision)

This is going to be a great card

[Freddy316]

I mainly looking foward to Diego vs. Fitch. Both those fighters like to press the action so it should be an exciting fight. Also can't wait to see the debut of Shogun in the UFC.

[Driden]

the whole main card is to me. Thiago is like the new vitor and Tyson is pretty good. Naka and Mach fight will be a great display of grappling and technique. Fitch & Diego will be a non stop war. Shogun should kick ass BUT he main weapons are taken away in the UFC AND most Pride fighters are having trouble adjusting. Forrest is tough, sure he's not better than Shogun at anything but he could be tough enough to make Shogun not look that impressive. I hope that's not the case.

Liddell & Jardine should be a good striking war which obviously Liddell coming out on top his counter punching style is perfect for Jardine I think but then again Jardine has a great chin. The only downside to liddell atm is once you get ko'd its easy to get rocked/ko'd again but jardine just got ko'd himself so......

[Freddy316]

UFC 76 was the night of upsets. Great and very impressive wins for both Forrest and Jardine. Forrest totally dominated Shogun the entire fight, I was suprised how quickly Shogun gassed out. As for Jardine, he went into his fight with Liddell with a great gameplan and was able to pull off the win. Makes you wonder who is going to get the next LHW title shot, Forrest or Jardine?

The rest of the card was great too. Diego/Fitch was a good fight. I was hoping Diego would win, but Fitch did a good job of avoiding his takedowns and breaking free of his submission attempts. The most exciting fight of the night has to go to Thiago/Tyson. Very fast paced, great ground action and great effort put out by both fighters.

[dead breed]

I didn't expect Jardine to win.

[ZION]

Picked all 3 upsets... Liddell, Shogun & Puss-Sanchez. :nod:

[steelba]

Looks like Shogun aint all that.

[dead breed]

Looks like Shogun aint all that.

He's all sho .. he didn't appear to have much gun in him last night. :D

[cmurdur]

Liddell got paid over 35 times the amount Jardine got paid. :rolleyes:

[Driden]

not only Forrest and Jardine, what about Machida?


Been a huge Shogun fan and I don't know what went wrong with him. His cardio was gone. I know he changed his fighting style since he broke his arm but damn, he had nothing that fight. He looked a bit more soft than usual as well. All the Pride fighters are looking bad lol. Now, people are talking crap about Fedor might suck, but imo that's just crazy talk.

[Oravear]

saying shogun was gonna suck was crazy talk but hey look at him

[Freddy316]

With all the money Dana put into Cro Cop and Shogun he's got to be pretty pissed that they aren't performing well in the octagon. Shogun looked like an amateur in that fight with Forrest.

[dead breed]

Fedor better not suck it up.

[Toad]

Wonder how Wanderlei will fare once he steps foot back in the Octagon...should be interesting.

Would love to see him fight Forrest now.

[cmurdur]

I read that Chuck wants or is supposed to fight Shogun now, but who really cares about Chuck anymore?

[Oravear]

every casual UFC fan?

Like it or not he's the biggest MMA draw right now him and tito

[IKickAssForTheLord]

every casual UFC fan?

Like it or not he's the biggest MMA draw right now him and tito

true, I still think Tito is the man... I really wanna see Wanderlei fight now!!!

[steelba]

Wouldn't mind seeing Jackson smack Tito around.

[Freddy316]

Agreed. Always fun watching Tito get smacked around. :nod:

[Driden]

Rashad is fighting Tito last I heard

[Driden]

7 MMA shows tonight. Two of them are free cards FYI. Here's the one I think will be worth watching

Strikeforce live at the Playboy Mansion. Free on Yahoo.com
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Time - 9pm PST/12am EST

Main Card
Gilbert Melendez vs. Tetsuji Kato (title fight)
Joe Riggs vs. Eugene Jackson
Adam Lynn vs. Josh Thompson
Clint Coronel vs. Billy Evangelista
Matt Lee vs. Jorge Masvidal (R1 TKO) <--- nice fight

undercard
Bobby Southworth (R1 verbal sub broken rib) vs. Bill Mahood
Falaniko Vitale (R1 sub strikes) vs. Ron Fields
Daniel Puder (R3 Decision) vs. Richard Dalton
Adam Smith vs. Dewey Cooper (R3 Decision)
Eddie Millis vs. Daniel McWilliams (R1 RNC)
Luke Stewart (R1 TKO) vs. Sam Liera
Miguel Linares (R1 KO) vs. Anthony Figueroa

[cmurdur]

in one corner, Keith Jardine, and in the other...To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

[cmurdur]

Pride is DEAD

- PRIDE WORLDWIDE JAPAN OFFICE OFFICIALLY CLOSED
Friday, October 05, 2007 - by Taro Kotani, translation by Korey Howard

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Pride Fighting Championships started on Oct. 11, 1997, with the legendary fight of Nobuhiko Takada versus Rickson Gracie. With their 10th anniversary just around the corner, the venerable Japanese mixed martial arts promotion has come to an end. On Oct. 4, the Pride FC World Wide (Pride WW) office closed without fanfare and all employees were dismissed.

Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta, primary owners of the Ultimate Fighting Championship, purchased Pride FC from Dream Stage Entertainment (DSE) in March with intentions of revitalizing the organization, which then was in serious financial peril due to losing their television contract in Japan.

Initial plans by Lorenzo Fertitta and UFC president Dana White were to continue operations in Japan and bring top fighters from both Pride and the UFC together in a sort of “Super Bowl of mixed martial arts.”

“This is about putting together the dream fights that me and you as fans have always wanted to see," said Fertitta at a press conference in March of last year, announcing the purchase.

Plans of having a Super Bowl of mixed martial arts came to an end Thursday night in Japan as the Pride WW office was shut down. Employees who previously worked for DSE and were rehired by Pride WW after the Fertittas’ purchase were notified of their dismissal in a conference call by Pride WW president Jamie Pollack, according to Japanese MMA website God Bless the Ring.

Reports by SportsNavi indicated that employees have not been able to re-enter their former workplace and have been unable to use company-owned mobile phones, PCs, etc.

The former head of Public Relations for DSE, Keiichi Sasahara, made a vehement public statement in SportsNavi about the closure:

"It makes me very angry that the U.S. management would do this in a way that betrays the people who have supported us. We believed in Lorenzo (Fertitta's) message of restarting Pride. We've been working toward that end and that's how we've answered fans who have asked what's going to happen. To have that all end all of a sudden in this way is incredibly frustrating."

White, who is also a part owner of the UFC, said on numerous occasions that Pride shows in Japan would not be held until a television contract was signed, but as the months drew on, no television contracts materialized.

Addressing the media in August, White stated, “I’ve pulled everything out of the trick box that I can and I can’t get a TV deal over there with Pride. I don’t think they want us there.

“Pride is a very powerful brand and we want to keep it alive, but I’ll tell you what, the brand is very tainted, not only over there, but (also in the U.S.).”

Kamipro Hand is reporting that Pollack is expected to make a statement regarding the current state of Pride WW.




anyway, has anyone seen the card for UFC 79?
When: December 29' 2007 at 7 P.M. Pacific on PPV
Where: Mandalay Bay Events Center, Las Vegas, Nevada, U.S.A.

Wanderlei Silva (Record: 31-7-1-1)
Vs
TBA (Stephan Bonnar or Chuck Liddell)

UFC Welterweight Title:
Matt Serra (c) (Record: 9-4-0)
Vs
Matt Hughes (Record: 41-5-0)

UFC Lightweight Title:
TBA (Sean Sherk If He Passes His Appeal Or Joe Stevenson)
Vs
BJ Penn (Record: 11-4-1)

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (Record: 30-4-1-1)
Vs
Cheick Kongo (Record: 11-3-1)

Josh Koscheck (Record: 9-2-0)
Vs
TBA

Preliminary Bouts:

Dean Lister (Record: 9-5-0)
Vs
Jordan Radev (Record: 11-2-0)

Doug Evans (Record: 5-1-0)
Vs
Luke Caudillo (Record: 12-8-0)
looks good, maybe that's why 78 is so crappy.

also, Jardine is out until 2008. no injury, he just thinks the early part of the year will be the best time for him.

[dead breed]

Nice card..cant wait!!!

[cmurdur]

Christmas present? oh Hell yeah!

[cmurdur]

READ THIS
October 11, 2007
Report: After UFC’s Failure to Sign Fedor Emelianenko, Randy Couture Leaves UFC
Posted by MMA Junkie on October 11, 2007 at 3:10 pm ET
With the UFC’s apparent inability to sign top free agent Fedor Emelianenko to a contract, current UFC heavyweight champion Randy Couture has reportedly decided to walk away from the UFC and the two fights remaining on his current deal.

The shocking news comes from The Fight Network, with whom Couture has a longtime relationship. According to the website, Couture delivered his resignation with a letter to UFC President Dana White.

“I appreciate this opportunity the sport of MMA and the UFC has given me,” Couture told the website. “However, I’m tired of swimming upstream at this stage with the management of the UFC. It only makes sense at this point in my career to fight Fedor Emelianenko, and since he’s now signed with another organization, I feel like it’s time to resign and focus on my other endeavors.“

Emelianenko — the current PRIDE heavyweight champion and the most sought-after free agent in mixed-martial arts — reportedly inked a new deal with the Russian-based M-1 Mix-Fight Championship promotion in the past couple weeks.

White made no mention of Couture’s resignation — nor any problems in his relationship with the fighter — during today’s UFC 77 media conference call. The two MMA notables appeared to have a very public and very cordial relationship.

UFC officials were hopeful that Couture would next defend his title against Emelianenko at a Feb. 2 show in Las Vegas. Fight fans had been teased by the possible matchup for much of 2007. MMAjunkie.com recently reported that Couture was supposed to headline the UFC 81 event regardless of the opponent, but it now appears the fighter’s career with the UFC is over.

The 44-year-old Couture, a UFC Hall of Famer, came out of retirement earlier this year to defeat Tim Sylvia for the heavyweight championship. Since the UFC 68 victory, Couture has reemerged as one of MMA’s biggest stars.

He successfully defended his title at UFC 74 in August against top contender Gabriel Gonzaga.

Couture (16-8 MMA, 13-5 UFC) is one of the most decorated fighters in MMA history and the only athlete to ever hold the UFC’s heavyweight and light-heavyweight titles. The former All-American wrestler has competed in 15 title fights in his 24-fight career.

It’s too soon to know what the UFC will do with a now-vacant heavyweight title. However, top contenders Brandon Vera and Tim Sylvia are scheduled to fight next weekend at UFC 77, and fellow contenders Antonio Rodrigo Nogeuira and Cheick Kongo are expected to fight in early 2008. The two bouts could set up a mini-tournament, with each fight’s winner facing off in a title fight at a later date.

I don't know what to say...

[dead breed]

Yeah I was surprised by this. I didnt know what to think. I thoght it was a rumor or something. Kinda out of nowhere imo.

[Oravear]

I understand where he is coming from. I mean the guy really has nothing more to prove other than facing off against the number one guy in the world. I'm sure he'll fight again maybe even for the UFC but I really really really doubt he'll fight anybody besides Fedor. Look in the next 9 months for Randy to sign a one fight deal with M-1 the brand that recently signed Fedor. If they do fight I hope its in a cage so Randy can at least stand a chance.

[cmurdur]

Randy on sportscenter-To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

[steelba]

I like the move. Randy should be making more than Lidell. So should Quinton Jackson for that matter.
UFC would rather pay Lidell more money than the champs they should quit.
Absurd to pay a losing figther more than both of your Champions.
Dana White is a cock.

[cmurdur]

Liddell has more appeal, I guess, because he was the crossover fighter that brought in a lot of new fans. but getting paid half a mil in a losing effort to some clown isn't logical.

[Driden]

All depends on his agent and contract though. Look at Beckham and TO in sports. They are overpaid

[steelba]

Those are team sports though.

Boxing champs purses are a better measuring stick as MMA goes.
The Champ should make more, not the most popular fighter.
If not why be the champ? To be paid less??

Better to be a popular loser than a Champion in MMA I guess.

[Belcebu]

I cannot believe the UFC wouldn't match or beat the offer of the organization that adquired Fedor. I don't blame Randy, at 44 it makes no sense to go out there and fight up and comers that have nothing to loose and a ton to gain on the fight.

[Oravear]

Those are team sports though.

Boxing champs purses are a better measuring stick as MMA goes.
The Champ should make more, not the most popular fighter.
If not why be the champ? To be paid less??

Better to be a popular loser than a Champion in MMA I guess.


You can't just win and expect to be the highest paid, people don't watch the UFC for wins they watch it for excitement and personality. I mean look at sherk he made less then a guy who fought on the undercard in his last fight. Machida is a great fighter and one of my favorites but he will never match the payroll of a Tito or Crocop because he just isn't that exciting to the average fan. It's ridiculous but eventually MMA will catch on and start paying guys real money. I mean they do get tons in endorsements and such but still.

I think the move was justified for Randy, he's older and at the top of his game he shouldn't be fighting scrubs. I mean shit its possible that Kongo may be the number one contender at the end of the years it's insane. I respect the fact that Dana White brought MMA or what he calls UFC to the states in a big way. Love him or hate him he is the single most important guy for MMA in the last decade. More so than Randy, Chuck, Tito or Fedor. Without White MMA would probably have died in the states.

But the fact of the matter is he carries himself like a damn child. Saying that he 'bitchslapped' Randy's agent is so, I don't even know, low class. Imagine Stern saying that he bitchslapped Kobe's agent. It wouldn't be accepted. For MMA to take the next step into the mainstream White either needs to step down or clean up his F bomb attitude.

I think this is the most important time in MMA's life as a sport. What Randy did was either incredibly important or incredibly dumb. MMA can either go the way of boxing with several different venues where nobody fights each other. Which would be terrible in every sense of the word. If somehow M-1 blows up, very unlikely even if Fedor v Randy happens, in the states then it competes with UFC and the best fighters won't faceoff. With Elite XC coming into its own the UFC has more competition and less superfights. Another thing Couture's decision could have caused was the start of a MMA fighter union. Which could be good or bad. Good if it gets undercard guys enough money to fight for a living. Bad if they get too greedy which could happen. Bas Rutten put it best. If you have a good manager then you don't need a manager. One or the other is going to happen. MMA needs a monopoly.

If MMA goes the other way, of say the NBA or another org like that then it would be heaven and it could make the sport easily in the top 3 in the USA. For that to happen though we need guys like Randy and Fedor all in the same org. We need them in the UFC. Like it or not UFC is the biggest and the baddest. Sadly Dana is too stubborn in signing fighters. UFC didn't need Fedor but it did need Randy, and to keep Randy it had to get Fedor. It's a huge loss. Without him they don't have a face of the UFC, Chuck is nearly done and no one save maybe Rampage can carry the company.

I don't know whats gonna happen but I'm worried that the hayday of MMA could be soon over, and no mega matchups really happened.

[cmurdur]

didn't Fedor ask for 10 million? I'm pretty sure they could make all that up in his first two fights, especially if one of those was against Randy.

[Oravear]

didn't Fedor ask for 10 million? I'm pretty sure they could make all that up in his first two fights, especially if one of those was against Randy.

Would never happen. Every hardcore fan would buy but the reason UFC does so well is because it attracts casual fans. To the casual fan Fedor is a nobody. The Randy fight might do well but anything after that would bomb because the only other real possibilities are a Barnett or Sergei fight, both of which showcase fighters unknown to the casual fan.

[cmurdur]

I think if they hyped it up like De Lahoya vs Maywhether, it would convince more people to buy. making the tag line on the promos, "The Greatest vs Number 1," would be just like, "The World is Watching."

[Oravear]

yeah but either way I think more casual fans knew mayweather and certainly DLH

[steelba]

UFC are cheap fuckers, hording all the profits.
They under pay and they should get more people defecting soon.

[Driden]

Fedor's price wasn't the problem to the UFC I heard it was 2 other things bothering him.

1. Combat Sambo. He promised the President of Russia he would continue to fight in this sport and the UFC wont allow him because he could be injured.

2. Security. The UFC kicks anyone out after so many losses. Fedor wanted his high pay for all his fights regardless of losses or something like that.

But now Dana is acting like all the Pride fighters are doing shitty in the UFC. Fedor needs to come to us if he wants to prove he's the best. He's not worth putting in such a huge paying contract and if he turns out like Cro Cop.. the UFC is screwed. They feel eventually Fedor will fade in the minds of MMA fans. and to many casual fans they don't know who Fedor is so the UFC doesn't lose there either. But now Randy is quiting the UFC because the UFC wont get Fedor. eesh I don't know what to believe lol


Sooooooooo is the Vera vs Sylvia a title fight now or you think they would go Kongo vs Nog?

[Oravear]

Sooooooooo is the Vera vs Sylvia a title fight now or you think they would go Kongo vs Nog?

Winners of both will fight for the title it will be Sylvia vs. Nog, at least thats what I think will and should happen. In all honesty that will be a really good fight.

[Freddy316]

The latest I heard about the HW title situation is that the winner of Sylvia/Vera will fight Nog for the vacant title. So I guess there will be no Nog/Kongo fight.

[cmurdur]

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doesn't matter who will win, Jackson will murder either of those guys.

[Oravear]

jesus that can't be true. With all the talent at 205....ugh. It just can't be.

In other, and better news, my BJJ instructor Ricardo Almeida signed a 6 fight contract with the UFC. We've talked about it for awhile but finally he inked the deal. Ricardo is a great guy and will definitely cause some waves in the UFC. I'll let you guys know when I know who his first fight will be.

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[Driden]

jesus that can't be true. With all the talent at 205....ugh. It just can't be.

In other, and better news, my BJJ instructor Ricardo Almeida signed a 6 fight contract with the UFC. We've talked about it for awhile but finally he inked the deal. Ricardo is a great guy and will definitely cause some waves in the UFC. I'll let you guys know when I know who his first fight will be.

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That's awesome. I wish him all the luck in the world and hopefully isn't fed to the higher ups and gets some easy fights on undercards. If he does well it could be your chance to enter as well.

anyway

Today's card


Rich Franklin vs. Anderson Silva
Tim Sylvia vs. Brandon Vera
Alvin Robinson vs. Jorge Gurgel
Eric Schafer vs. Stephan Bonnar
Alan Belcher vs. Kalib Starnes
Jason MacDonald vs. Yushin Okami
Demian Maia vs. Ryan Jensen
Josh Burkman vs. Forrest Petz
Matt Grice vs. Jason Black

[Oravear]

If he does well it could be your chance to enter as well.

Well man I've got to tell you the thought has crossed my mind. Ricardo and I have talked about it since I've been with him for just about 5 years now and I've competed in both am and pro MMA fights(which are pretty much the same at my level lol) I haven't had a fight in about 2 and a half years but I've been training my bjj and wrestling nonstop. My stand-up has probably gone to shit. I just don't know if I could find time to train full time and get a few low tier fights to tune myself up.

In three weeks Ricardo asked me to take a trip out to LV with him to meet Dana White and celebrate his signing maybe we could work something out, but I just don't know if I could handle that lifestyle now. I'm so happy with teaching and the life I'm living now. Alot of guys like to say 'oh this guy doesn't want to be a fighter or he doesn't have the heart of a warrior' but it's not that easy. I am a fighter, I just haven't fought in a few years. It's not easy to drop your life to train for a few thousand dollars. I will tell you something though, I miss it so much.

[steelba]

Here is a quick heads up on the why for Jackson's match. IMO>!
One of their biggest stars just retired and Lidell is losing nonstop.
They aim to set Quinton up with a few knockout fights to boost his appeal.
The knock outs are what sold Chuck. They plan on giving Jackson some fights were he'll entertain the public by knocking out his lesser competitors.

The last lightheavy bout was a good match but very boring. By creating this obvious mismatch it will be less competitve but more entertaing. So expect some more setup fights until Jackson gains the market value they want.
It is first and foremost a business and knocc outs sell more tickets then hugfests.

[Driden]

Well man I've got to tell you the thought has crossed my mind. Ricardo and I have talked about it since I've been with him for just about 5 years now and I've competed in both am and pro MMA fights(which are pretty much the same at my level lol) I haven't had a fight in about 2 and a half years but I've been training my bjj and wrestling nonstop. My stand-up has probably gone to shit. I just don't know if I could find time to train full time and get a few low tier fights to tune myself up.

In three weeks Ricardo asked me to take a trip out to LV with him to meet Dana White and celebrate his signing maybe we could work something out, but I just don't know if I could handle that lifestyle now. I'm so happy with teaching and the life I'm living now. Alot of guys like to say 'oh this guy doesn't want to be a fighter or he doesn't have the heart of a warrior' but it's not that easy. I am a fighter, I just haven't fought in a few years. It's not easy to drop your life to train for a few thousand dollars. I will tell you something though, I miss it so much.

It's hard. I've seen and heard from many up and comers who quit their jobs, break up with their gfs, and end up having to move in with roommates to continuing training. It's definitely not an easy or high paying profession and the chances of becoming popular is slim. the risk of injury or missing that window of opportunity due to age or being unprepared is tough.

I personally think if you got the heart and you got the support you already have the qualities many people do not. hundreds of fighters are fighting their asses off in smaller orgs for chunk change dying to for a possibility of the UFC dream and its kind of ironic that with a little persuasion you could get one. Even if you can't train 100% it has to itch a bit but at the same time you don't want to take the spotlight off your friend.

Perhaps if he's successful and you still have that desire you can be thrown into a TUF lol? TUF = instant fanbase.

[Oravear]

hundreds of fighters are fighting their asses off in smaller orgs for chunk change dying to for a possibility of the UFC dream and its kind of ironic that with a little persuasion you could get one.

Perhaps if he's successful and you still have that desire you can be thrown into a TUF lol? TUF = instant fanbase.



Yeah I will always be first in line to show respect to every person who commits their time to anything let alone something as time consuming and brutal as MMA. I had a period of years where I was bouncing around the northeast in little shows making 300 bucks a night if that. My biggest opportunity was traveling to Japan and seeing everything they had to offer.

After awhile I saw my options. I was engaged to a woman that I thought I was going to spend the rest of my life with. My only income was inconsistent as best and I was trying my heart out to be successful in a sport where less then 10% of people actually make good money. This was all before TUF where guys could get shot right into the spotlight. I weighed everything and chose the girl and a steady lifestyle. Turned out though that she was a cheating whore and really didn't want to have anything to do with me.

Right now I am happy with what I do. Teaching, coaching, earning my way in BJJ. Its a life I can be proud of.

All that being said, I still feel like I can complete. I always relied on my wrestling in my fights for position but now I have really progressed in BJJ to the point where I would feel more comfortable finishing fights.

I'm defiantly not ruling it out. We'll see how Vegas goes and I'll keep talking to Almeida to see what his take is on it.

[Driden]

Sounds like Dana is thinking of putting your teacher with Anderson Silva
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around 1:37

ouch

[Oravear]

Haha I don't think his first fight will be for the title but if there is anybody who could give Silva fits on the ground its Almeida.

[Driden]

EliteXC fights this Friday they will show the entire card. You can stream it online via elitexc.com or watch it on showtime.

[dead breed]

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looks like they finally have brock...should be an interesting fight.

[Driden]

EliteXC this weekend

NOVEMBER 10, 2007 ON SHOWTIME

SHOWTIME BOUTS
-Nick Diaz vs. K.J. Noons
-Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson vs. Bo Cantrell
-Jake Shields vs. Mike Pyle
-Seth Kleinbeck vs. Kyle Noke
-Antonio Silva vs. Jonathan Wiezorek

UNDERCARD BOUTS
-Yves Edwards vs. Nick Gonzalez
-Geoff Bumstead vs. Robert Ruiz
-Jae Suk Lim vs. Lane Yarbrough
-Brett Rogers vs. Ralph Kelly
-Jon Kirk vs. Matt Lucas

[steelba]

Most of these MMA fights are crap.
Elite XC hasn't been that entertaing and UFC isn't that great either.
I'm way more interested in Cotto/Mosley than any MMA fight in the remander of the year.

Then ofcoarse theres Hatton/Mayweather.
MMA will never be mainstream until they get rid of the ground sexfests.
Even then the excitment they produce is minimal.

[Oravear]

Most of these MMA fights are crap.
Elite XC hasn't been that entertaing and UFC isn't that great either.
I'm way more interested in Cotto/Mosley than any MMA fight in the remander of the year.

Then ofcoarse theres Hatton/Mayweather.
MMA will never be mainstream until they get rid of the ground sexfests.
Even then the excitment they produce is minimal.

typical...stick to boxing

[Driden]

Most of these MMA Fights are up and comers trying to start their careers in the sport. Most have raw talent or very little experience which is why most of these fights are free.

EliteXC has struggled with talent but its not easy when every other org has the best signed fighters but they have bought out other orgs to get better fighters and you never know who might become a star.

Boxing sucks and has sucked since Tyson went to jail imo. the figures show Boxing is on its way out and MMA is on its way in. HBO/Showtime/NBC/VS/Spiketv/Foxsports interest in MMA and coverage on ESPN has proven they see where the future is at.

MMA has grown faster these past 2 years than any other sport in history. Bare in mind this is a young sport. Boxing has been going on for decades. not a fair comparision imo.

Your lack of knowledge of the sport makes it boring for you which in turn gives you no results in entertainment. If you knew what was going on on the ground you wouldn't be as bored. If you think being in the guard in BJJ is a 'sex fest' you fail.

MMA is a combination of Martial Arts that work in a real life situation. Getting rid of styles because you think are boring is BS. BJJ has proven it can kill people, save women's lives, and break limbs. If a guy with a ground style that can dominate, overpower and make a man 3 times your size surrender I say it works in real life and should be included.

The rules in place atm are if there is no activity, no effort to finish the fight, no submissions, no advancement of position they stand you up. If you have a problem with 2 men fighting on the ground perhaps you should question your sexual preference? We are seeing a fight and you are thinking sex? I don't know, that's not normal to me jk

[cmurdur]

I'm going to try and get UFC 79 next month. it'll be my first ppv that I'll see at home.

[steelba]

typical...stick to boxing

If only I paid as much attnetion to MMA as you did to the UHM fantasy football league. Oh wait I actually checked in and posted in this thread, oops!

[steelba]

MMA is a combination of Martial Arts that work in a real life situation.
Then why are San Soo techniques, eye gouges, biting, and small joint locks all banned? They must not ever happen in real situations.

Refs are always there to break up fights in the street.

[Oravear]

Then why are San Soo techniques, eye gouges, biting, and small joint locks all banned? They must not ever happen in real situations.

Refs are always there to break up fights in the street.


We've had this convo before man. MMA is a sport if you want that go for vale tudo or just look for a mugging in the street. What Driden was saying was it would be more benefitial for a guy if they were trained in MMA than if they were just trained in boxing if they happened to get in a fight on the street.

[Oravear]

If only I paid as much attnetion to MMA as you did to the UHM fantasy football league. Oh wait I actually checked in and posted in this thread, oops!



hah yeah i really bailed on that I'm not doin it again next year

[Driden]

Then why are San Soo techniques, eye gouges, biting, and small joint locks all banned? They must not ever happen in real situations.

Refs are always there to break up fights in the street.

MMA was like that until they tried to become a legit sport and the Athletic Commission wouldn't have it. The UFC was losing money, going almost bankrupt so they had to make the change with the new rules to stay afloat and make money. There is still MMA with no rules in other countries.

I could say the same about Boxing. People let you stand for 10 seconds after being knocked down. People everyday walk around in the streets with chicken sized padded gloves. oh wait, that's right its a sport that's why it has rules.

You know Police, Armed Forces, Self Defense courses, Bouncers, etc all use MMA techniques in real situations. Do people use boxing? no, they stand and punch but none of them are dancing around throwing jabs like Sugar Ray Lenard

[steelba]

MMA was like that until they tried to become a legit sport and the Athletic Commission wouldn't have it.
In all fairness it was a different animal when it first debuted. Once they started enforcing the padded gloves and removed the bare fists it pretty much went as you described.

As a sport I just tihnk it's not very entertaining. Some of the fights are great but alot of them are pretty boring.

[Driden]

In all fairness it was a different animal when it first debuted. Once they started enforcing the padded gloves and removed the bare fists it pretty much went as you described.

As a sport I just tihnk it's not very entertaining. Some of the fights are great but alot of them are pretty boring.

ahh yeah you're right. when 2 guys would stand in a small circle with their fights up like irish punching eachother for 30+ rounds until someone died

[cmurdur]

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19462 meters

[steelba]

Kimbo won his first MMA bout last night.

[Oravear]

it looked like cantrell didn't want to be there. Props to Kimbo though not his fault.

Just got back from Vegas. What a trip, I think somebody knows who Ricardo Almeidas fighting...

[Driden]

Strikeforce Tournament!

Friday free on sports.yahoo.com 8pm pst to anyone 150miles from San Jose, Ca area.

Paul Buentello vs Alistair Overeem (title fight)
Bobby Southworth vs Anthony Ruiz (title fight)
Cung Le vs Sam Morgan
Brain Schwartz vs Lemont Davis
Trevor Prangley vs Falaniko Vitale
Yuki Sasaski vs Jorge Santiago



Saturday UFC 78 7pm PST

Michael Bisping vs Rashad Evans
Thiago Silva vs Houston Alexander
Joe Doerksen vs Ed Herman
Ryo Chonan vs Karo Parisyan
Frank Edgar vs Spencer Fisher
Chris Lytle vs Thaigo Alves
Jason Reinhardt vs Joe Lauzon
Luke Caudillo vs Marcus Aurelio
Akihiro Gono vs Tamdan McCrory

[dead breed]

I hope Evans kicks Bispings ass, and I hope Houston Alexander wins his fight.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

I hope Evans kicks Bispings ass, and I hope Houston Alexander wins his fight.

I couldn't agree anymore! Houston is a BEAST!

[Driden]

Just to make you doubt Houston a bit (yeah right) Silva comes from Chute Boxe camp and is never been defeated sporting a 11-0 record and is a KO artist. Houston was rocked by Jardine. but Houston much like Soko are impressive as hell knocking people out I've never expect so it could go either way and appear very lopsided.

Strikeforce PBP
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[cmurdur]

UFC 78: Validation results


Akihiro Gono defeated Tamden McCrory, 2nd round 3:19 Submission (Armbar)

Marcus Aurelio defeated Luke Caudillo, 1st round 4:19 TKO (Strikes)

Joe Lauzon defeated Jason Reinhardt, 1st round 1:14 Submission (Rear Naked Choke)

Thiago Alves defeated Chris Lytle, 2nd round 5:00 TKO (Doctor Stoppage)

Frank Edgar defeated Spencer Fisher, 3rd round 5:00 Unanimous Decision

Ed Herman defeated Joe Doerksen, 3rd round 0:39 KO (Punch)

Karo Parisyan defeated Ryo Chonan, 3rd round 5:00 Unanimous Decision

Thiago Silva defeated Houston Alexander, 1st round 3:25 TKO (Strikes)

Rashad Evans defeated Michael Bisping, 3rd round 5:00 Split Decision

[Driden]

M1's first card news


Fedor Emelianenko will compete on New Year's Eve at the Saitama Super Arena in Japan; however, the No. 1 ranked heavyweight in the world's opponent remains questionable.

It was reported that Emelianenko would return to action against Korean Hong Man Choi. Although Choi is the likely candidate, the bout has not yet been finalized.

Last week, M-1 Global Mixed Martial Arts along with former Pride/Dream Stage Entertainment staff held a press conference in Japan announcing the year-end event being billed as Yarennoka!

Along with Emelianenko, Hayato "Mach" Sakurai, Shinya Aoki, Tatsuya Kawajiri, and Mitsuhiro Ishida were on hand and expected to participate on the fight card.

The Russian Mix-Fight Championship website announced that Fedor’s brother, Aleksander, and Roman Zentsov are scheduled to fight as part of the event.

Other notable names such as Joachim Hansen, Ricardo Arona, Gilbert
Melendez, Luiz Azeredo, and Kazuo Misaki were also mentioned as possibly being on the card. No official match-ups have been announced

[dead breed]

Im looking forward to seeing Aleksander

[dead breed]

Matt Serra was injured Monday training with Matt Arroyo and his back went out. It was serious to the point he had to practically be carried to the hospital. And after an MRI, he had to practically be carried off the table. He didn't tell anyone about it, hoping it would heal. He went to the chiropractor to see if he could make it better, and ended up hurting even worse. The doctors told him there was no way he could fight on Dec. 29, so he canceled yesterday.

Matt Hughes will now face Georges St. Pierre in a five-round main event for the interim welterweight title. When Matt Serra recovers from his herniated disc, a match will be put together to unify the championship.

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This sucks, I was looking forward to this fight in December.

[Driden]

I'm not to hurt by that news actually. This way I see GSP take his belt back AND once Serra gets better (if ever) he can rematch GSP to prove it wasn't a fluke. It's the best thing they could have done in the situation the UFC was in. Although, some people think Hughes doesn't deserve a title shot when his only win is Lyte but then a lot of fighters get a mediate rematch anyway

[dead breed]

I would like to see him prove it wasnt a fluke. I would love to see Serra win again.

[Driden]

maybe Oravear knows if this is true. Rumors of UFC 81 card

UFC 81...

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira v Tim Sylvia/Randy Couture
Brock Lesnar v Frank Mir
Forrest Griffin v Keith Jardine
Nate Marquardt v Thales Leites
Tyson Griffin v Gleison Tibau

undercard fights...

alan belcher v ricardo almeida
david heath v andre gusmao
chris leben v nate quarry
forrest petz v hector lombard

[Oravear]

It is true about Almeida, we've known for about 2 weeks I think ever since LV. Belcher is a tough guy but Ricardo will do his thing. I might even get to walk out with his crew to the cage! Which would be incredible, I'm helping him train and everything I really only have my wrestling to offer but its a great honor to even be around him.

I never really posted about it but the trip to LV was awesome. Met Dana White and Joe Silva. Also went to extreme couture met a few fighters over there (No Randy :( ) Gambled, trained a little, really exciting stuff. Originally it was looking like Almeida was gonna face off possibly against Nate Marquart or Evan Tanner but Joe really wanted to have the match with Belcher. Dana voiced his dislike of Belcher and knew it would be a good way to introduce RA to the UFC. After we win this next match look for a fight against Marquart or Tanner.

It was weird I never really knew that Dana would say he didn't like a fighter, I mean obviously he's said he doesn't like Tito but it just seemed a little strange that he was clearly looking for RA to win using Bechler as a stepping stone.

Also the guys at the gym are really pushing me to step into the cage again. Soooo who knows.

[Driden]

Very exciting stuff. thx for sharing. Your sig is hilarious. I just saw it earlier today for the first time

[Oravear]

really hope his next fight is against tanner that would be nuts!

[steelba]

Also the guys at the gym are really pushing me to step into the cage again. Soooo who knows.
You broke your hand badly playing bloody knuckles, So you might be injury prone.
But goodluck if you go pro, I hope you make some good $$$, it's always cool when regular mofos get paid :nod:

[Oravear]

You broke your hand badly playing bloody knuckles, So you might be injury prone.
But goodluck if you go pro, I hope you make some good $$$, it's always cool when regular mofos get paid :nod:



:lol:

not quite bloody knuckles but the hand healed up pretty nicely lost a little flexibility but its all good. It hasn't given me any problems at all, as far as injury prone I wouldn't say during my fight career I was any more or any less injury prone than other guys. Most of the injuries come from training much more than the actual fights. Only thing I really battled with was staph that shit is nasty its running through my gym right now.

[steelba]

Staph :shakes:

well goodluck then :coolbeer:

[cmurdur]

[QUOTE=Oravear;690770 Only thing I really battled with was staph that shit is nasty its running through my gym right now.[/QUOTE]

gahross!

[Gilly]

I didn't see the last UFC. But I heard Bisping was hard done by with the decision with Evans coming out on top. But I guess it makes amends for the crap decision to have Bisping win his last fight even though the other guy should have.

[Driden]

Bisping looked better than I ever seen him that night with Rashad. Good knees, great clinch work. but Rashad did enough to win

[Gilly]

Bisping has potential to be a great fighter. But fighting nobodies half the time like he usually does isn't really going to help him improve. A loss for him should kick him into gear.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

Anybody see the Great Fights tonight?! They were all great fights!

[Driden]

All the fights were good and 2 of them were amazing fights. Warmachine & Jared and the Huerta & Guida fight. I knew Mac was going to win the whole show but not that convincingly lol. rape. Jared was throwing crazy elbows from the bottom. Best elbows I've seen in the UFC since The Crow

[IKickAssForTheLord]

All the fights were good and 2 of them were amazing fights. Warmachine & Jared and the Huerta & Guida fight. I knew Mac was going to win the whole show but not that convincingly lol. rape. Jared was throwing crazy elbows from the bottom. Best elbows I've seen in the UFC since The Crow

Yea those 2 fights u mention were great def. WarMachine and J-Rock. "bout time we had a good card and good fights to go wit it... I can't wait for the next PPV, gonna be a good one.

[Driden]

^^ Do you watch WEC? Good card tomorrow. I don't know if you catch the Versus channel.

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[Freddy316]

Only a few more days until we see GSP kick the shit out of Matt Hughes again! I can't wait. :D

[IKickAssForTheLord]

^^ Do you watch WEC? Good card tomorrow. I don't know if you catch the Versus channel.

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Well, I never used to get the Vs. Channel until just like a couple of days ago, they switched all my channels around didn't know what was what.... but yea I did see that card, it was a good one. I'm so stoked for this next UFC PPV... I wanna see the Ice Man Vs. The Axe Murderer so bad! I hope Silva wins.

[dead breed]

Only a few more days until we see GSP kick the shit out of Matt Hughes again! I can't wait. :D

I hope so, but GSP kinda got short notice for this fight.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

just came back from a heavy night of drinkin' and smokin' and we watched UFC 79. It was pretty good. GSP just dominated Matt, I mean DOMINATED! He pretty much just man handled him. Chuck and Silva was a good fight, just a swing fest... still wish Silva won... pretty much those r the good fights... but I don't remember much of last night.

[dead breed]

Chuck needed to win this match and GSP is representing Canada :D

[dead breed]

Last night was the long awaited UFC 79: NEMESIS Pay-Per-View. It was a great show and the two top fights lived up to the hype. Here are quick results from the event:

-- Georges St. Pierre defeated Matt Hughes via submission (armbar) at 4:54 of Round Two to become the Interim UFC Welterweight Champion. Pierre dominated this from start to finish. After it was over, Hughes was gracious in defeat and said this may be his final fight.

-- Chuck Liddell defeated Wanderlei Silva via unanimous decision (29-28, 30-27, 30-27). Liddell was the clear winner. Both men threw and received some major punches. Chuck bloodied Silva pretty bad and definitely made the statement that he wants to get back on top of the light heavyweight division.

-- Lyoto Machida defeated Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou via submission (arm triangle choke) at 4:20 of Round Two. Sokoudjou came out in a "Predator" mask. That was about all he did. Disappointing showing for Sokoudjou, who got dominated in his UFC debut.

-- Rich Clementi defeated Melvin Guillard via submission (rear naked choke) at 4:40 of Round One.

-- Eddie Sanchez defefeated Soa Palalei via TKO (strikes) at 3:24 of Round Three. Rough fight with 2 brawlers throwing bombs. Palalei got bloody.

-- Manvel Gamburyan defeated Nate Mohr via submission (ankle lock) at 1:31 of Round One. Mohr appeared to be injured by Manny's submission.

We have all the latest UFC and MMA news at MMASCOOPS.com. We also have an MMA forum located at MMAScoops.com/forums

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Hughes said this may be his last fight....interesting.

[Driden]

I've said this before and took some heat from Chuck fans but its true. the gist of it is Chuck got dropped, rocked, and was gassed. He would have got beat if the fight was 5 rounds. I knew he knew Silva was going to be a problem when she started the fight with leg kicks. He got desperate and even went for takedowns to win the rounds. Chuck gave up on the knockout and went for the secure win.

Funny on the access show his coach said he couldn't find a weakness in Silva. uhh takedown defense? Looks like Liddell figured it out before the fight and had it planned. I don't discredit Chuck, he did what he had to to win. Even though I see it as weak. Just like Koscheck did a similar strat against Diego to win. a Win is a Win but You don't get respect from me.


coming from 2 losses, you must do whatever it takes to win I understand that. but to say Chuck looked good is lol. To hear Chuck fans talk shit, rub in the win to Silva is another thing. Chuck always looks the same. If Silva threw more leg kicks it would have been Jardine fight all over again.

Chuck tried to show a more well rounded game but everything looked bad. His gnp, his takedowns, his clinch, even his foot work. Fanboys call it unconventional and unique. I call it poor, but since he wins, its good? I guess.

At this point I think Forrest can beat Chuck

[dead breed]

I totally agree. I'm waiting for his next fight, to see if he improves alittle, or is he starting to fade.

[Freddy316]

I've said this before and took some heat from Chuck fans but its true. the gist of it is Chuck got dropped, rocked, and was gassed. He would have got beat if the fight was 5 rounds. I knew he knew Silva was going to be a problem when she started the fight with leg kicks. He got desperate and even went for takedowns to win the rounds. Chuck gave up on the knockout and went for the secure win.

Funny on the access show his coach said he couldn't find a weakness in Silva. uhh takedown defense? Looks like Liddell figured it out before the fight and had it planned. I don't discredit Chuck, he did what he had to to win. Even though I see it as weak. Just like Koscheck did a similar strat against Diego to win. a Win is a Win but You don't get respect from me.


coming from 2 losses, you must do whatever it takes to win I understand that. but to say Chuck looked good is lol. To hear Chuck fans talk shit, rub in the win to Silva is another thing. Chuck always looks the same. If Silva threw more leg kicks it would have been Jardine fight all over again.

Chuck tried to show a more well rounded game but everything looked bad. His gnp, his takedowns, his clinch, even his foot work. Fanboys call it unconventional and unique. I call it poor, but since he wins, its good? I guess.

At this point I think Forrest can beat Chuck
You think Forrest can beat Liddell? I mean Forrest is improving, but I'm pretty sure Chuck would have Forrest knocked out cold by the second round. I don't think you are giving Chuck enough credit. The stand-up in the Liddell/Silva fight was pretty even, I mean just look at Silva's face at the end of the fight. Chuck messed him up. The takedowns were to mix things up and keep Silva guessing, not acts of desperation. I for one am glad to see Chuck use his wrestling skills since he does have a background in wrestling and this is MMA (mixed martial arts) not boxing. The only thing I agree with you on is Chuck did look pretty gassed during the third round. If the fight were to go into a fourth and fifth round who knows what would have happened. All in all it was a good fight (would definitely not compare it to the Koscheck/Diego snoozefest) and I'd definitely like to see a rematch between these two at some point in the future.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

This PPV that is goin' on right now is lookin' pretty good... all have been knock outs so far except 2 fights. There r still 2 more fights goin' on. Rootin' for BJ Penn. The Guy is a beast.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

I found some videos of the UFC 80 bought.

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The BJ Penn And Joe Fight was nasty. Joe gets CUT BADLY!

[dead breed]

UFC 81 : Breaking Point

On the night before the biggest football game of the year, UFC® takes center stage with an immense night of hard-hitting heavyweight fight action. At UFC 81, former UFC® heavyweight champion Frank Mir will put wrestling superstar Brock Lesnar to the ultimate test, as Lesnar makes his move from the squared circle into the Octagon™ to prove that he is for real. Then, the new UFC heavyweight king will be decided as Tim “The Maine-iac” Sylvia faces Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira for the Interim UFC Heavyweight Title.

UFC® 81: BREAKING POINT will be live Saturday, February 2 from the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas.

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Should be an exciting Pay Per View.

[Misfit]

GSP is the man

[Driden]

You think Forrest can beat Liddell? I mean Forrest is improving, but I'm pretty sure Chuck would have Forrest knocked out cold by the second round. I don't think you are giving Chuck enough credit. The stand-up in the Liddell/Silva fight was pretty even, I mean just look at Silva's face at the end of the fight. Chuck messed him up. The takedowns were to mix things up and keep Silva guessing, not acts of desperation. I for one am glad to see Chuck use his wrestling skills since he does have a background in wrestling and this is MMA (mixed martial arts) not boxing. The only thing I agree with you on is Chuck did look pretty gassed during the third round. If the fight were to go into a fourth and fifth round who knows what would have happened. All in all it was a good fight (would definitely not compare it to the Koscheck/Diego snoozefest) and I'd definitely like to see a rematch between these two at some point in the future.

If Forrest can take Chuck's punches sure, why not? Forrest is tough enough. I doubt Chuck was doing takedowns to mix things up, because he never does that. Why would you need to change your strat after years of never doing so? Chuck used his wrestling because he knew Silva had horrible takedown defense. You can preach to me what MMA is but that doesn't change the fact that Chuck has been one dimensional for years.

I'm not saying change isn't a good thing Chuck needed it. But to pick Silva to do it tells you something. was it because he was 0-2, or because he knew he couldn't beat Silva straight up with his boxing only like everyone else?

[Lucio Argento]

Watching the Griffin-Shogun fight showed Forrest's vast improvement on the ground. Chuck has great takedown defense and nice sprawls, but if Griffin can use his trips to get Chuck down, I think he'd have a real good shot at winning. Especially since he can stand and bang with the big boys.

[dead breed]

Watching the Griffin-Shogun fight showed Forrest's vast improvement on the ground. Chuck has great takedown defense and nice sprawls, but if Griffin can use his trips to get Chuck down, I think he'd have a real good shot at winning. Especially since he can stand and bang with the big boys.

I gotta agree with you there.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

And He is speakin' portuguese
No actually he's speakin' Japanese
Oh I should have known that
Isn't Your Wife Japanese
Yes.

LOL Joe Rogan is the man.

[dead breed]

The Ultimate Fight Night Live sucked tonight.

[realizm]

any predictions on tomorrow fights?

[IKickAssForTheLord]

any predictions on tomorrow fights?

Tim beats the Pride dude. gotta repsent the man from Maine. (Tim and Marcus Davis)
Frank Mir Beats Brock
Nate Beats Horn
Tyson Griffin Beats His Guy (some
Chris Lytle Beats his Guy
Terry Martin Beats Eastman
and the last 2 fights I could care less

Sorry for sayin' the "guy" don't feel like typin' their names out.

[Lucio Argento]

Big Nog over Tim by 3rd round TKO.
Mir over Lesnar by 2nd round sub.
Griffin over Tibau by UD.
Martin over Eastman by 2nd round KO.
Emerson over Nakamura by UD.
Marquardt over Horn by 1st round sub.
Lytle over Brady by 2nd round sub.
Heath over Boetsch by 1st round TKO.
Almeida over Yundt by 1st round sub.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

Big Nog over Tim by 3rd round TKO.
Mir over Lesnar by 2nd round sub.
Griffin over Tibau by UD.
Martin over Eastman by 2nd round KO.
Emerson over Nakamura by UD.
Marquardt over Horn by 1st round sub.
Lytle over Brady by 2nd round sub.
Heath over Boetsch by 1st round TKO.
Almeida over Yundt by 1st round sub.

r u copyin' me? u have the same result as me... except I didn't say how they were gonna win. haha just playin'.

[Driden]

NOG R3 Dec (possible sub) if Nog does his thing if not Sylvia Dec
Lesnar R3 Dec (unless Mir gasses early then TKO)
Almeida R1 Sub (good thing Belcher fight was changed)
Marquardt R3 Dec
Griffin R3 Dec
Lytle R1 TKO
Martin R1 KO (could really go either way. Eastman hits hard, and Martin was Ko'd by Leben but eastman has bad chin)
Heath R1 TKO/Dec
Nakamura R2 TKO/R3 Dec

[cmurdur]

I hope Brock gets all his limbs broken against the Mir.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

NOG R3 Dec (possible sub) if Nog does his thing if not Sylvia Dec
Lesnar R3 Dec (unless Mir gasses early then TKO)
Almeida R1 Sub (good thing Belcher fight was changed)
Marquardt R3 Dec
Griffin R3 Dec
Lytle R1 TKO
Martin R1 KO (could really go either way. Eastman hits hard, and Martin was Ko'd by Leben but eastman has bad chin)
Heath R1 TKO/Dec
Nakamura R2 TKO/R3 Dec

I think Martin and Eastman is gonna be a good fight... at the weigh in's they were in each others face and pushin' each other. everybody else repsected each other.

[dead breed]

The only fight I'm looking forward to seeing is Mir and Lesnar. I dunno who's going to win, but the only way Lesnar is going to win is by ref stoppage or 3rd round decision. I would love to see Lesnar wreck Mir in the first round, and Lesnar just stand in the ring looking down at Mir on the mat.

But I can easily see Mir tapping out Lesnar. It just depends if Lesnar can move around the ring and use his feet. He only had one MMA fight so it's hard to really predict.

Can someone post a video of this fight for me tomorrow so I can see it? Thanks guys.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

dead breed

I got the hook ups for u.

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the movie forumz one is where I watched the last ppv... all u gotta do is wait until the ppv is over and videos will be flyin' up.

[dead breed]

dead breed

I got the hook ups for u.

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the movie forumz one is where I watched the last ppv... all u gotta do is wait until the ppv is over and videos will be flyin' up.

:coolbeer: THANK YOU

[IKickAssForTheLord]

yea no prob man. :coolbeer:

[Driden]

dead breed

I got the hook ups for u.

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the movie forumz one is where I watched the last ppv... all u gotta do is wait until the ppv is over and videos will be flyin' up.

I never knew they did that there lol. Anyway, If you want to watch it live off stream or download/watch the fights you want to see without the whole show go to the mmatv website highlight --> To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. The frontpage is a front. Register, if you can't I can send you an invite.. unless you don't mind waiting. They have forums, live chat as well

[dead breed]

I never knew they did that there lol. Anyway, If you want to watch it live off stream or download/watch the fights you want to see without the whole show go to the mmatv website highlight --> To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. The frontpage is a front. Register, if you can't I can send you an invite.. unless you don't mind waiting. They have forums, live chat as well

Thanks man. :coolbeer:

[Driden]

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Couture's picks for the fights


INTERIM HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP: Tim Sylvia (26-3) vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (30-4-1) – Sylvia


“I think Tim will tire Nogueira out on his feet. I think Nogueira’s going to have trouble putting him on the ground and maneuvering Sylvia into his strength, which is his submission game. I can see it going a third-round KO, but I could also see it going the distance and Nogueira getting a beating.”

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HEAVYWEIGHT: Frank Mir (10-3) vs. Brock Lesnar (1-0) - Mir

“I’m going with Mir with a second-round submission. As big and strong as Lesnar is, and as hard as he’s going to come, I think he’s going to put Mir right where he wants to be and Lesnar’s going to get out of position and get caught.”

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MIDDLEWEIGHT: Jeremy Horn (88-16-5) vs. Nate Marquardt (28-7-1) - Marquardt

“I’m going to go with Marquardt. Jeremy hasn’t really been the same since the Liddell fight. I think he realized he’s not infallible and can be hurt. Taking the fight on short notice probably isn’t the wisest thing. Marquardt is strong for that weight class and hits hard. I think Horn’s going to have trouble taking Marquardt down to find a wily way to submit him.”

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MIDDLEWEIGHT: Rob Yundt (7-0) vs. Ricardo Almeida (8-2) - Almeida

“Almeida.”

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LIGHTWEIGHT: Gleison Tibau (27-3) vs. Tyson Griffin (10-1) - Griffin

“I’m going with Tyson Griffin. Both guys have great fighting spirit, but Tyson’s very difficult to submit and will bring a torturable pace to the fight that Tibau’s going to have trouble keeping. I think it will be a decision and probably be the fight of the night.”






Bullshit call imo why did they stand them up? why wasn't Brock warned? I've seen fights were guys get back of the head shots up to 3x before even being warned! whatever. here ya have it
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[realizm]

didnt get to see the fites but im glad lesnar lost

[Lucio Argento]

Bullshit call imo why did they stand them up? why wasn't Brock warned? I've seen fights were guys get back of the head shots up to 3x before even being warned! whatever. here ya have it
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I think it was a bad standup as well. He hit him twice in the back of the head. It should've been a warning. They weren't full blown shots. They were hammer fists. Went 7-2 on my predictions and I was very close on almost all of the ones I got right :)

[Driden]

I think it was a bad standup as well. He hit him twice in the back of the head. It should've been a warning. They weren't full blown shots. They were hammer fists. Went 7-2 on my predictions and I was very close on almost all of the ones I got right :)

I got a bunch wrong over analyzing and mis judging a few fighters. Well mysexisartsy aka Jordan Breen (MMA GOD) went like 5-4. I'm just glad I'm out of the MMA fantasy league thing otherwise I would have lost for sure tonight lol

I'm amazed how people take wins/losses

for example

Nog beats Sylvia - PRIDE > UFC! FEDOR #1 for sure!

Sylvia beats NOG - Sylvia #1 he would pound FEDOR!

Same thing with the Lesnar fight. If brock won people would say Pro Wrestling > MMA or Wrestling > BJJ. Now that Mir won everyone is saying MIR saved MMA! whatever that means

[Misfit]

I got a bunch wrong over analyzing and mis judging a few fighters. Well mysexisartsy aka Jordan Breen (MMA GOD) went like 5-4. I'm just glad I'm out of the MMA fantasy league thing otherwise I would have lost for sure tonight lol

I'm amazed how people take wins/losses

for example

Nog beats Sylvia - PRIDE > UFC! FEDOR #1 for sure!

Sylvia beats NOG - Sylvia #1 he would pound FEDOR!

Same thing with the Lesnar fight. If brock won people would say Pro Wrestling > MMA or Wrestling > BJJ. Now that Mir won everyone is saying MIR saved MMA! whatever that means

i dunno what you said i am starein at the bathtub in your sig

[dead breed]

Yeah Lesnar kinda got fucked around with in this fight.
He was wayy more powerful then Mir. His fists were brutal. I think if Brock has a little more practice on how to prevent certain take downs/situations he can be a force to reckon with.

[Driden]

check this out

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As you can see, it's completely bogus. Brock is throwing hooks to the head, Mir moves his head while Brock is throwing and one hits the back of Mir's head. Brock immediately adjusts and starts throwing hammerfists. The first one is perfectly fine, but then, mid-throw AGAIN, Mir moves his head and one hits the back of the head. Lesnar, instead of pounding away, waits for a second, and Mir thinks he's about to throw hooks and moves his head, and then Lesnar throws a hammerfist that lands legally on the side of Mir's head. So, two illegal strikes that were caused by Mir.

Meanwhile, earlier that very same night, that very same referee watched Gleison Tibau repeatedly hit Tyson Grifin in the back of the head and warned him several times with no point deduction, and more importantly, no stand up. Without that stand-up by the incomprehensible Steve Mazzagatti, Lesnar wins via TKO.

for the hell of it

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[dead breed]

check this out

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As you can see, it's completely bogus. Brock is throwing hooks to the head, Mir moves his head while Brock is throwing and one hits the back of Mir's head. Brock immediately adjusts and starts throwing hammerfists. The first one is perfectly fine, but then, mid-throw AGAIN, Mir moves his head and one hits the back of the head. Lesnar, instead of pounding away, waits for a second, and Mir thinks he's about to throw hooks and moves his head, and then Lesnar throws a hammerfist that lands legally on the side of Mir's head. So, two illegal strikes that were caused by Mir.

Meanwhile, earlier that very same night, that very same referee watched Gleison Tibau repeatedly hit Tyson Grifin in the back of the head and warned him several times with no point deduction, and more importantly, no stand up. Without that stand-up by the incomprehensible Steve Mazzagatti, Lesnar wins via TKO.

I totally agree, its amazing how this fight was fcked around with. Really disappoints me. Lesnar had this fight by TKO if it had to continue.

[dead breed]

I just watched the Nog and Sylvia fight. Pretty good back and forth match, it could of went either way imo. But NOG has the better take down/ground skills.

[dead breed]

How many times did Crop Cop and Fedor fight?

[dead breed]

Pretty funny match here with Fedor and Yuji Nagata. Fedor schools him so bad here.
Nagata is a professional wrestler and he tried MMA awhile back.

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[Driden]

How many times did Crop Cop and Fedor fight?

Once. and Cro Cop was running for his life a few times. He fought Nog 3 times. People always talk shit about Fedor not fighting top contenders but he's beaten everyone already except Couture. yeah Fedor is fighting cans probably because he's beaten everyone else? The only contender he could have fought was Sergei but he went on a losing streak as did Barnett

[steelba]

Fedor is not all he's cracked up to be. He does duck people and the best never do that. I bet Cotoure would beat him, but he'll probably duck him too.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

Driden, that guy at the bottom of ur sig where he is throwin' that guy down... I didn't realize he is from the next town over to me. I thought he fought pretty damn good.

[Driden]

Fedor is not all he's cracked up to be. He does duck people and the best never do that. I bet Cotoure would beat him, but he'll probably duck him too.

Well that's false because Pride made all the decisions who fought who. Many fighters will tell you they didn't even know who they were fighting sometimes until days before the fight. Pride was also known for freakshows, mismatches and other forms of entertainment. That was not Fedor's fault. And neither is the UFC negotiations going sour with Fedor in the UFC.

Fedor isn't afraid of anyone. Fedor has no weakness even your boy Randy Couture has stated this. Which is why he wants to fight him, Fedor is Randy's last test. he wants him before he retires because he wants to know how he measures up.

Randy couldn't finish Sylvia, guess who just did? The guy Fedor beat 3 times.

[steelba]

I know you're showing your communist love, but he isn't all that.

[dead breed]

Fedor would school Couture imo

[ZION]

Anybody gonna check out Kimbo Slice vs. Tank Abbott on Showtime Feb 16th??

[dead breed]

Anybody gonna check out Kimbo Slice vs. Tank Abbott on Showtime Feb 16th??

Ill check it out on dailymotion, I'll just avoid this thread or any MMA sites until I see it the next day or later that night.

What are your thoughts on Bob Sapp? Think he's going places?

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He'd kick Kimbo's ass anyday.

[ZION]

Ill check it out on dailymotion, I'll just avoid this thread or any MMA sites until I see it the next day or later that night.

What are your thoughts on Bob Sapp? Think he's going places?

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He'd kick Kimbo's ass anyday.

To be honest, they both have the same style of fighting which is hoping for a street fight, Sapp has more skill cause he has more experience with MMA. But both just hope their oppent just stays in front of them so they can knock em out. Not a real fan of both but it's fun to watch them cause you know the chance of watching someone getting knocked the fuck out is very very good. Do you ever watch Kimbo's fighting videos on youtube? Check this one out, he get's beat...
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[dead breed]

To be honest, they both have the same style of fighting which is hoping for a street fight, Sapp has more skill cause he has more experience with MMA. But both just hope their oppent just stays in front of them so they can knock em out. Not a real fan of both but it's fun to watch them cause you know the chance of watching someone getting knocked the fuck out is very very good. Do you ever watch Kimbo's fighting videos on youtube? Check this one out, he get's beat...
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That fight looks a little illegal :D No knees? lol Isn't he trying to be a MMA fighter? Kimbo looks pathetic in that video.

And whose that guy with the long brown coat on (holding the briefcase) with the flag sticking out of his hair? He looks like a pimp haha

[ZION]

That fight looks a little illegal :D

:nod: The only MMA fight Kimbo has was against 168yr old Ray Mercer, which Kimbo won, all the other fights (on youtube) are all illegal fights on private property. That's why I think Kimbo wont last in MMA until he gets experience and works on a complete skill, instead of swinging away.

[dead breed]

:nod: The only MMA fight Kimbo has was against 168yr old Ray Mercer, which Kimbo won, all the other fights (on youtube) are all illegal fights on private property. That's why I think Kimbo wont last in MMA until he gets experience and works on a complete skill, instead of swinging away.

He had one more MMA fight against Bo Cantrell in November, that fight lasted like 20 seconds of the first round. Kimbo will get lucky beating old/shit hand fed opponents, but when he fights someone with skill, he's going to get his ass kicked.

[dead breed]

I also don't know why he doesn't just use his real name "Kevin Ferguson"

Kimbo Slice sounds fcking stupid imo

Check out his last MMA fight. The ref stopped the match because...? I dont see them stopping matches anywhere else like this so quick. Seems as if they're hyping him up to make some $$

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[dead breed]

They're feeding Kimbo another opponent "Tank" Abbot. He only has a popular name. Tank won 1 of his last 8 fights lol

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I'd like to see the UFC sign Don "The Predator" Frye. I think it would mix things up a little. He should drop down to below 205 and do some damage in the next weight class in the UFC.

[Driden]

hahha if they sign Frye they have to give us another epic fight with The hawt one!!

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[Gilly]

NOAH is awful wrestling. He's like an Asian Hogan. :ahheh:

[Lucio Argento]

Fedor is not all he's cracked up to be. He does duck people and the best never do that. I bet Cotoure would beat him, but he'll probably duck him too.


Nonsensical stupidity. You're either stupid or a Randy nuthugger. Fedor's one loss came from a cut that was caused by an ILLEGAL elbow. However, he was in a tournament and due to not being able to fight in the next round, Kohsaka was given the victory.

Let's go over the list of fighters who Fedor has fought and beaten.

Ricardo Arona
Babalu
Semmy Schilt
Heath Herring
Big Nog (3x)
Cro Cop
Fujita
Mark Coleman (2x)
Randleman
Mark Hunt
Matt Lindland

Besides Couture and Barnett, there aren't any GREAT fighters that he hasn't fought.

Randy's opponents (wins):

Vitor Belfort (2x)
Maurice Smith
Jeremy Horn
Randleman
Pedro Rizzo (2x)
Liddell
Tito Ortiz
Sylvia
Gonzaga

Losses

Liddell (2x)
Belfort
Ricco Rodriguez
Barnett
Valentijn Overeem
Enson Inoue
Mikhail Illoukhine

They both have faced a number of good opponents. Fedor has beaten all of his. Randy is about .600 in his fights. I'll take Fedor over anyone.

[steelba]

Yeah I know all about how tough the elite Pride Fighters are :mhehe:

[IKickAssForTheLord]

Ricco Rodriguez is on that new show on VH1 that celebrity rehab lol.

[Driden]

Ricco Rodriguez is on that new show on VH1 that celebrity rehab lol.

lol. no more reality tv for me well I'll take that back. I'm checking out Flavor of Love 3 when it starts

Somegifs just because.. ouch (edit- they came down)
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[IKickAssForTheLord]

Well, I'm guessin' Kimbo dominated Tank, cuz I just check out kimbo's site and kimbo won in the first round in 43 seconds by KO. I didn't get to see it, but thats how he won.

[realizm]

ill give kimbo his dues when he fights better fighters

kimbo vs ken shamrock??? give me a break all there doing is giving him wash-up fighters while questionable jaws
put kimdo against that wannabe Mr.T that opened tonight, now that would be a good fight

[ZION]

ill give kimbo his dues when he fights better fighters

Would love to see him throw hands with 'Ice Man' just to see who has the better chin.

[ZION]

Looks like Kimbo might fight Ken Shamrock next.

[realizm]

Looks like Kimbo might fight Ken Shamrock next.

good grief

[IKickAssForTheLord]

once ken gets beat by him he will realize he can't fight anymore. HE should have already known that since he always gettin' his ass kicked by TITO!! Tito is the man!

[Misfit]

kimbo will kill all...he takes on jesus soon!

[steelba]

Kimbo and everyone else will beat Ken Shamrock. He's nothing without his roids.
Hopefull we get to see Kimbo fight some better opposition soon.

Cung Lee vs Frank Shamrock should be interesting to watch next month.

[dead breed]

Give Kimbo an opponent that isn't washed up/a noob and I'll take him seriously.

[Darkgod]

If your gonna do washed up fighters, do someone who is the exact opposite of kimbo, and watch them dissect him. Put him up against a Gracie, or another who knows what they are doing and watch the man be picked apart. Last nights fight was a joke. It was so biased and unbelievable. Lets take an out of shape, fat slob who hasnt fought in god knows how long, and face him vs Kimbo Slice, in his hometown, at the college he used to play for.

[ZION]

If your gonna do washed up fighters, do someone who is the exact opposite of kimbo, and watch them dissect him. Put him up against a Gracie, or another who knows what they are doing and watch the man be picked apart. Last nights fight was a joke. It was so biased and unbelievable. Lets take an out of shape, fat slob who hasnt fought in god knows how long, and face him vs Kimbo Slice, in his hometown, at the college he used to play for.

wouldnt happen anytime soon, it's called 'Marketing'. There goona pump up Kimbo and face him with scrubs or guys way past thier prime. Then once he he's around 10 and 0 or so,they will match him with someone good AND rake in all the cash.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

Okay I just saw the Kimbo and Tank Fight... Tank didn't stand a chance.

[realizm]

wouldnt happen anytime soon, it's called 'Marketing'. There goona pump up Kimbo and face him with scrubs or guys way past thier prime. Then once he he's around 10 and 0 or so,they will match him with someone good AND rake in all the cash.

well im sure glad i aint going to be paying for these fights (ppv) cause it would be like watching a Tyson fight in the early 90's

they need to fight him with some bums with stronger chins
kens a waste of time

[Driden]

Anyone see the Strikeforce card? Joe Riggs got manhandled by a Harai-Goshi Judo throw that left him on a stretcher

[Driden]

In 3 hours!

Anderson Silva vs Dan Henderson
Heath Herring vs Cheick Kongo
Alessio Sakara vs Chris Leben
Yushin Okami vs Evan Tanner
Chris Wilson vs Jon Fitch
Jake O' Brien vs Andrei Arlovski
Luigi Floravanti vs Luke Cummo
Dustin Hazelett vs Josh Koscheck
David Bielkheden vs Diego Sanchez
John Halverson vs Jorge Gurgel

Nice card

[dead breed]

MMA fighter Anderson Silva won the UFC 82 fight against Dan Henderson with a rear-naked choke last night in Ohio to claim middleweight mixed martial arts supremacy. The match started good for the former Pride title-holder with all three judges giving the first round to Henderson. But in the second round Silva came out much more aggressive, both fighters exchanging a barrage of punches, but in the final seconds of the Round 2, Anderson Silva sank in a rear-naked choke and Dan Henderson tap at 4:52 into the round. The victory of Anderson Silva was no surprise, at least for the bookmakers. The UFC 82 odds at the online sportsbook BodogLife had Silva -160 favorite to win the fight and Henderson was +130 underdog. "Anderson Silva is pound-for-pound the best fighter in the world. Anybody who tries to debate that is out of their mind," UFC president Dana White said after the fight results. Silva is now 6-0 in the UFC.

The surprise of the last night UFC 82 results came in the other main event, where underdog Heath "The Texas Crazy Horse" Herring won a split decision (29-28, 29-28, 28-29) against Cheick Kongo in a rather boring heavyweight bout. Heath Herring was +160 underdog at BodogLife, where Kongo was -200 favorite to win the UFC 82 fight.

Here are the rest of the UFC 82 results:
Jon Fitch vs. Chris Wilson - winner is Jon Fitch by unanimous decision.
Evan Tanner vs. Yushin Okami - Okami by KO at 3:00 of round 2.
Alessio Sakara vs. Chris Leben - winner is Leben at 3:16 of round one.
Josh Koscheck vs. Dustin Hazelett - Koscheck by TKO at 1:24 of round 2.

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Silva is the real deal.

[Lucio Argento]

Chris Wilson fought really well against Fitch. I didn't think Herring over Kongo was a big upset at all. Stylistically, he was a tough match up. I thought for sure HH would be the one who would try to take Kongo down, but it was the other way around. Kongo fought a great fight, but he just got beat. Leben-Sakara was a war as expected.

[Freddy316]

The question I have is who is the UFC going to put in front of Anderson Silva next? I mean, Dan Henderson was supposed to be the guy that had all the tools needed to beat Anderson, and Anderson not only beat him but finished him and very impressively I might add. I think Anderson is going to be holding that belt for a long long time. Who's next? Let's see, he just beat Henderson, he beat Franklin twice. I'm guessing Okami will get the next title shot, but I don't see him being a threat. Then you got Patrick Cote and Chris Leben who have been on winning streaks, but Anderson already beat Leben and I don't think Cote would stand a chance against him either. I really don't see anyone currently in the MW division being a threat to him. What I would really like to see is GSP move up to the MW division to take on Anderson, I think that would be a hell of a fight.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

all I wanted to see was if the Pitbull was gonna be back.

[cmurdur]

Anderson should try a different weight class.

[Driden]

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Gomi's lastest fight and his others if you want to check them out

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Shogun reinjuried his knee so Chuck Liddell is now fighting Rashad Evans. Good. I wanted this fight!

[Freddy316]

That sucks, I was looking forward to seeing Shogun/Liddell. Oh well, maybe another time. Liddell vs. Rashad might be good. Rashad didn't really look that good against Bisping, but he has shown in some of his other fights that he can be very explosive with his striking and I think he could easily catch Chuck if Chuck underestimates him. I'm still going to predict that Liddell comes out with the win though.

[dead breed]

I would love to see Rashad KO Liddell in the 2nd round. Would be sweet.

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[Driden]

Tonight

Cage Rage 25

Ken Shamrock vs. Robert Berry
Jean Silva vs. Masakazu Imanari
Gary Turner vs. Mustapha al Turk
Pierre Guillet vs. Tom Watson
Rob Broughton vs. Neil Grove
Ivan Serati vs. Roman Webber
Danny Batten vs. Leigh Remedios
Henrique Santana vs. Michael Johnson
Aysen Berik vs. Aisling Daly
Ryan Shamrock vs. Giorgio Andrews
John Hathaway vs. Marvin Arnold
Jake Bostwick vs. John Phillips


DREAM March 15th

Shinya Aoki vs Gesias 'JZ' Calvancante
Tatsuya 'Crusher' Kawajri vs Black Mamba
Kazuyuki Miyata vs Luis Buscape
Joachim "hellboy' Hansen vs Koutetsu Boku
Mitsuhiro Ishida vs Bukyung Jung
Katsuhiko Nagata vs Artur Umakhanov
Andre Dida vs Eddie Alvarez
Hayato 'Mach' Sakurai vs Hidetaka Monma
Minowaman vs Mirko Crocop

holy shit that's a great card. Like the Pride days of old

[steelba]

Shamrock got beat.. again.

[Lucio Argento]

Shamrock really should've retired already. Yesterday's pathetic performance should be enough to push him into retirement. He got caught with a nice left and then a right that looked like it barely grazed him and he went down like a sack of potatos.

[Highwayman]

I only enjoyed Shamrock when he was in WWF, never watched him before that, but did see some post wrestling fights and he lost, a few times. His ass was kicked. Does he have heart, too much pride or too stupid to pack it in?

[hackerslacker]

I went to my first MMA fight series. I helped my friend with the sound/music and got in for free. Pretty cool I suppose. Im not into boxing/MMA though..."on the fence" you can call it. I mainly stared at the hot girls walking around. If I was in MMA I would bang every chick feasible. lol.

:(

[dead breed]

Robert Berry...the guy that beat Ken, is he a good fighter?

[Lucio Argento]

Robert Berry...the guy that beat Ken, is he a good fighter?


Not really.... he's primarily a stand up fighter but he's just decent.

[Driden]

Since people only seem interested in the Shamrock fight here it is

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[IKickAssForTheLord]

Just saw the 1st 3 matches of UFC 84 and I can't wait for it... 3 of my fav. fighters are gonna fight.

BJ Penn Vs. Sean Sherk
Wanderlei Silva Vs. Keith Jardine
Tito Ortiz Vs. Lyoto Machida

Penn, Silva, Ortiz bein' my fav.

I just hope Penn whoops his ass bad!

[steelba]

Shamrock Needs to retire already.

[Driden]

first look at the new Dream Belts
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The lightweight Grand Prix starts tonight

[cmurdur]

pretty cool belts.

[Driden]

Some pics from Dream weigh ins

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The fights
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[dead breed]

Is Cro Cop still with the UFC?

[Driden]

Last I heard He talked with Dana and released him/allowed him to fight overseas a couple fights then he's able to come back if he wants.

[Freddy316]

Last I heard He talked with Dana and released him/allowed him to fight overseas a couple fights then he's able to come back if he wants.
He can only come back to the UFC if he doesn't lose any of his fights overseas. That's what I heard anyway.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

If You don't like MMA just check out this fight.

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That fight is probably in my top 3 fights. If u don't wanna watch the whole thing then just watch the endin'... its insane.