Marcus Nispel doing Friday the 13th [Archive]

Chief Falling Rock

11-14-2007, 08:10 AM

http://joblo.com/arrow/index.php?id=10082

from the writers of FvsJ and the guy who did the TCM remake. I liked the TCM remake so I'm on bored with this. People complain about them remaking this but the more I hear about it the more it sounds to me like their not really remaking the first one. Just making a different version because the movie is gonna focus on Jason. And he'll be wearing his hockey mask throughout, and killing people.

réÐþÁ†µ

11-14-2007, 08:24 AM

If they keep the same type of elements from the first 4 films as they said they were going to do awhile back. Then that works for me, but if their gonna just skip out on the faster, more menacing human Jason in exchange for the overabundantly used zombie Jason than their basically making the same mistake Fridays 8 through 10 made.

Time will tell if they go back to sticking to their guns with this being more of a traditional friday the 13th movie in the mold of the first 4 films or if it deviates from that. I wouldnt mind another incarnation of zombie Jason. That said, it would be a disappointment considering zombie Jason has been featured in about 6 films including FvsJ.

choptop2

11-14-2007, 10:11 AM

more of the same. No surprise.

Elwood

11-14-2007, 01:05 PM

I am a huge Friday fan so i am still excited for this. I did like the directing style in the remake of TCM so i am not turned off by that. What scares me is FvsJ as it was just a gorefest. While Jason isnt much more than that, the movies sure are. Take part 4 through 6 as an example. Those three had a great character in Tommy Jarvis and it brought in some very needed humanity.

I dont know about you guys but i dont give a shit about some stoned teen with huge tits dying. I did care about Tommy and his family in part 4 though. I also hoped he would make it through in part 6.

Bring back a good old Tommy vs Jason fight and you have a great chance of making a classic film.

Godfatha

11-14-2007, 01:42 PM

I'm sure it'll have the same visual style as TCm, which I enjoyed, im still not really onboard with a need for more Friday, remake or otherwise.

TacK

11-14-2007, 02:14 PM

Doesn't sound too bad to me

Chief Falling Rock

11-14-2007, 02:33 PM

yeah they need to bring Tommy Jarvis into it somehow.

TacK

11-14-2007, 02:41 PM

Maybe a return to film for Corey Feldman

Treefroggiefreak

11-14-2007, 05:53 PM

They need to just make another sequel if they're going to go the Jason route.

BooBerry

11-14-2007, 07:14 PM

Goods news IMO.

Elwood

11-14-2007, 09:11 PM

Maybe a return to film for Corey Feldman

no freaking way... This is actually a good place to stick an unknown. Hell you could even say Tommy is older now and get a nice adult actor to add a different spin on this movie than others expect.

lots of potential for this, lets hope they don't waste it.

TacK

11-14-2007, 11:35 PM

Considering Tommy was played by a really young Feldman in 4, I don't think it'd be a bad idea for Feldman to star the role again at his current age. IF they put Jarvis in this at all anyway which more than likely they won't.

réÐþÁ†µ

11-15-2007, 11:33 AM

According to the friday films website. Same of the early rumored notions are that this film will take a cue from part 3 with crystal lake being as more of a resort and the film might take place during the winter.

http://www.fridaythe13thfilms.com/home.html

cmurdur

11-15-2007, 03:19 PM

Jason in the snow is the only place we haven't seen him yet.

slimeisacharacter

11-15-2007, 03:36 PM

Jason in the snow is the only place we haven't seen him yet.

I want a Jason on polar bear scene!

cmurdur

11-15-2007, 03:52 PM

that would be cool to see.

Elwood

11-15-2007, 04:01 PM

I would almost bet my left nut this is going to be in winter... i mean it makes the most sense and will have the most visual impact. I really cant wait to see this movie.

cmurdur

11-15-2007, 04:14 PM

red snow = bad ass:nod:

dead breed

11-15-2007, 04:17 PM

Ill check out this movie...but it will be more of the same ole same ole

Chief Falling Rock

11-16-2007, 07:29 AM

ive always thought Jason in the winter time would be awesome

réÐþÁ†µ

11-16-2007, 09:19 AM

Take this for whats its worth. A supposed leaked opening for the remake. (Possible Spoilers)

http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=12575

The new Friday the 13th is going to open with Jason as a legend in the Crystal Lake area. Five kids out in the woods looking for a bunch of weed they planted and stumble upon the deserted Camp Crystal Lake. Sitting around the fire that night, the dweeby one (there's always a dweeby one) tells the legend of Jason Voorhees. After that the Survivor Girl and her boyfriend wander off into the woods, where they find a shitty old cabin. Inside are some clues, like a bed with the name Jason carved in it. An old picture of a girl who looks just like Survivor Girl.

And Mama Voorhees' head.

Cue Jason. He murderizes the other four kids, and as he grabs Survivor Girl... slam into the opening credits.

The rest of the article is there in the link. Not sure I buy this, but if its true. I suppose its a good opening. Right to the point.

Treefroggiefreak

11-16-2007, 09:52 AM

I doubt that's the real beginning, but either way I hate the cliche "Kids searching for weed" thing.

Elwood

11-16-2007, 03:38 PM

yea i hope thats not the opening because it would ruin the entire movie for sure. Weed shouldnt have a place in this movie period... doing something else for a change.

Chief Falling Rock

11-16-2007, 04:07 PM

ive been reading that Jason is going to be in fact a human (not zombie or spirit or whatever) and has tunnels he can go in throughout the camp and thats how he just pops up all the time. To me that sounds.....stupid.

Elwood

11-16-2007, 04:12 PM

The tunnels would be insanely stupid. Where does Jason have time or the intelligence to plan an entire underground system. The human part is great, they need to go back to the part 3 look.

Chief Falling Rock

11-16-2007, 04:14 PM

well if he drowned in the lake and his mom came back for revenge how is he gonna be human? I mean I don't mind him lookin like he did when he first got the mask. But I hope they keep him as a big guy.

cmurdur

11-16-2007, 04:17 PM

maybe he didn't drown. isn't that what they told us for the original series?

Elwood

11-16-2007, 04:54 PM

Well i dont think there was ever any real answer to what happened to Jason. I always believed he didnt drown, and was washed on shore later. He survived and went into the woods thinking his mom wouldnt accpet him back.

Years later he watches his mom die and so his rage builds.

its simple and it means he was human; a strong one, but human. I mean he did really die at the end of part 4 it just look a lot.

réÐþÁ†µ

11-16-2007, 05:02 PM

Pretty simple folks.

Jason never drowned. Was human for 3 entries until Tommy finished him off in the FINAL CHAPTER.

The way I see it, the one thing they may change with this film is Jason being a retard and just simply making him a normal kid. The idea of tunnels and stuff is a bit of a stretch but not if he was a normal kid. Or atleast shortcuts, not so much tunnels.

cmurdur

11-16-2007, 05:07 PM

if he's human, tunnels make sense because we don't have to believe that he can just teleport around.

TacK

11-16-2007, 05:25 PM

Tunnel idea is stupid, very stupid.

Chief Falling Rock

11-16-2007, 05:32 PM

yeah I guess your right. the human thing may not be to much of a stretch after all. The tunnel thing im still weird on, but if they do it right and make it creepy. It wont be to weird.

TacK

11-16-2007, 05:35 PM

I always like Jason in Jason Lives over the other movies. Didn't care for the potatoe sack head Jason too much.

réÐþÁ†µ

11-17-2007, 07:23 AM

Human Jason of entries 3 and 4 would be the best to shoot for IMO.

The character was the most menacing in those two films. He chased his victims, showed pain when attacked and still showed brute strength.

Elwood

11-17-2007, 08:22 AM

I think we have a lost a lot of what human Jason brought to the table now. I mean back with those films you still thought he could be killed, or at least hurt very bad. But since the start of zombie Jason we have had a totally different mind set.

I bet if you asked a hundred random people on the street a vast majority would know zombie Jason before human one.

So if the writers do go that route they have a lot of work on their hands to make people believe Jason is not only human but can be killed. This would make him a much more intense villian.

deadfactory

11-17-2007, 10:11 AM

This remake sounds good to me, if u want to call it that. Does anyone think they will alter the hockey mask a bit in looks? I personally doubt its going to look like it did in the other films. What do u all think Jason should look like? Personally i think he needs some of the patchy long hair, always found that creepy.

Chief Falling Rock

11-17-2007, 10:36 AM

I always did like Jason as a bigger person. Maybe Michael Myers big like in the Rob Zombie remake. I just think their more menacing that way. And I too have been wondering about them altering the mask. Especially if it takes place in present day because those types of hockey masks arent used any more. And I personally wouldn't mind seeing him wearing a potato sack in the beginning just as a nod to the original series. And personally I dont think they should show his face, adds to it I think.

cmurdur

11-17-2007, 11:00 AM

Chief Falling Rock

11-17-2007, 11:24 AM

fuckin noobs

Toxic Voorhees

11-17-2007, 11:56 AM

And people are still considering this a remake? The tunnel idea is bullshit. And human Jason would be a wetdream. I just don't know where they wanna go with this one.

cmurdur

11-17-2007, 12:02 PM

they could just ignore the zombie films like what they did in the Halloween series.

Toxic Voorhees

11-17-2007, 12:05 PM

Maybe they're gonna try and start a new F13 series like TCM. They even got the TCM remake director helming this one.

ASoron0424

11-18-2007, 05:05 PM

I'm actually pretty interested in who they'll have play Jason. He's kind of synonymous now with the huge, towering, no-less-than-200-pound stunt men. I wonder if they'll go a different direction here. Remember how skinny and frail looking he was as a child? Maybe they'll make him more disfigured and frail looking.

But, unlike Halloween, I'd hate to see them try to add sentiment to that Jason story or get us to sympathize with him.

Darkgod

11-18-2007, 06:18 PM

Just bring Hodder back/

ASoron0424

11-18-2007, 06:43 PM

Just bring Hodder back/

Yeah, I think that would be best too, but I think he's too old now. He's probably pushing fifty, if not older.

réÐþÁ†µ

11-18-2007, 06:44 PM

If you want Jason to run and be more human like. Hodder isnt the answer. Although I wouldnt doubt it if they make him human but still make him a statue as its been in vogue for so long. Studios seem afraid to make the killers more menacing by running unless its a roided zombie.

Elwood

11-18-2007, 10:14 PM

CJ Graham (Part 6) is more than willing to come back from what i hear. I think he captured the picture Jason who didnt run but certainly looked like he could move. I mean look at those scenes of him walking in the woods, he isnt going slow but he isnt running. A nice balance if you ask me. He also isnt hulking like hodder.

I am probably one of the few people who didnt like Hodders work beyond part 7 and 8... i mean nine and ten were utter crap and his Jason was part of that reason.

Darkgod

11-18-2007, 10:17 PM

Hodder is 40 tops, he looked good when I met him.

ASoron0424

11-19-2007, 05:11 AM

He fiddy-too

http://imdb.com/name/nm0387987/

pastor_ice43

11-19-2007, 11:00 AM

If tommy jarvis gets put in at all....Thom Matthews needs to play him. In any event....the magic of the first film was that it WASN'T jason...it was a who-dun-it slasher which is always better. I'm not as worried about this one as I was Halloween because 1..Zomboid isn't doing it, 2...it seems like it's sticking to the general formula of the series...straight out slasher with gore and boobs galore...3..I loved the TCM remake, and I really enjoyed FvJ.

Darkgod

11-19-2007, 11:47 AM

Jees hes 52. Hed still kick my ass, hes fit as hell

Godfatha

11-19-2007, 01:44 PM

Jees hes 52. Hed still kick my ass, hes fit as hell
He's a stuntman, he better be.
They might as well get someone totally unknown to play Jason at this point if they're going to keep the 'reimaging/remake/new' aspect alive much longer.

ASoron0424

11-19-2007, 02:22 PM

pastor_ice43

11-19-2007, 05:39 PM

Maybe another professional wrestler. Tyler Mane signed to do another Halloween because he thought Rob Zombie was doing the sequel, but Rob Zombie's not, so even though there's gonna be a definite sequel, Zombie won't be directing.

Oh really? So Zombie's "human" myers not only couldn't make it all the way through the film without showing superhuman attributes...but now he'll come back from a gunshot wound to the head.

Darkgod

11-20-2007, 02:48 PM

LOL,,,, great point .

Chief Falling Rock

11-21-2007, 12:33 AM

ASoron0424

11-21-2007, 03:05 PM

Oh really? So Zombie's "human" myers not only couldn't make it all the way through the film without showing superhuman attributes...but now he'll come back from a gunshot wound to the head.

Well, it's not Zombie doing the second one, there's an interview with him on MTV's website from the set while they were still filming in which he said he'd definitely not be coming back for a sequel but he would welcome anyone's attempt to make their own.

pastor_ice43

11-21-2007, 11:17 PM

original myers was the same. He never died yet he couldnt be killed either.

Right...but the point is, Zombie made a big deal about how his Myer's was "human"...how he wasn't "the shape" but just an ordinary guy. I was simply pointing out yet another flaw in his horrible remake.

Well, it's not Zombie doing the second one, there's an interview with him on MTV's website from the set while they were still filming in which he said he'd definitely not be coming back for a sequel but he would welcome anyone's attempt to make their own.

Well hopefully someone will come to their senses and just make a sequel to the original series.

cmurdur

11-22-2007, 09:13 AM

Well hopefully someone will come to their senses and just make a sequel to the original series.

they had 4 or 5 years to do that. the original series is dead.

Treefroggiefreak

11-22-2007, 09:32 AM

they had 4 or 5 years to do that. the original series is dead.

Jason Goes To Hell came out in 93. Jason X came out in 2002, 9 years later.

Time between movies has nothing to do with whether or not a series is actually dead. Hell, it took them like 5 years to come out with a sequel after H20.

cmurdur

11-22-2007, 09:34 AM

Jason Goes To Hell came out in 93. Jason X came out in 2002, 9 years later.

Time between movies has nothing to do with whether or not a series is actually dead. Hell, it took them like 5 years to come out with a sequel after H20.

that's different. the F13 series didn't have a remake between JGTH and JX .

pastor_ice43

11-22-2007, 11:30 AM

they had 4 or 5 years to do that. the original series is dead.

Yeah right...any true horror fan who knows anything about the Hollywood money making machine knows thats false. The true series is not only NOT dead...but in a few years, Zombie's monstrosity will fade into the shadows, and the original Halloween movies will still be the ones we see playing on cable in October, and being referenced in Horror Film lore.

that's different. the F13 series didn't have a remake between JGTH and JX .

Really??? Because The Dawn of the Dead remake came out in 2004....since then, not only has another sequel to the ORIGINAL dead series come out, but another is about to be release, and there's already another sequel in the works as well.

cmurdur

11-22-2007, 12:01 PM

Really??? Because The Dawn of the Dead remake came out in 2004....since then, not only has another sequel to the ORIGINAL dead series come out, but another is about to be release, and there's already another sequel in the works as well.

those movies can be looked at on their own. there are no recurring characters and most people probably figure Land is a seqeul to the Dawn remake.

pastor_ice43

11-22-2007, 06:12 PM

those movies can be looked at on their own. there are no recurring characters and most people probably figure Land is a seqeul to the Dawn remake.

It doesn't matter if there are no recurring characters. They're still sequels. And I seriously doubt that MOST people think Land is a sequel to the Dawn remake. In fact, I don't know of ANYONE that does. Your just fishing now dude. The original Halloween will eventually have a sequel...and zombie's will fade into obscurity...deal with it.

cmurdur

11-23-2007, 08:17 AM

réÐþÁ†µ

11-23-2007, 08:27 AM

Thats why Halloween was just as played out as Friday the 13th. despite what elitest Halloween fans say. Friday the 13th had really no overall plot points in most entries but they did what they did in every movie and usually did it well. Halloween did that for awhile too until they started stretching.

Still say Nightmare is the best despite what people say about the Freddy Krueger character and this is coming from a diehard Friday fan.

steelba

11-23-2007, 11:41 AM

ANOES was garbage.

Darkgod

11-23-2007, 11:54 AM

Steelba I think you hate everything.

steelba

11-23-2007, 03:51 PM

I like Friday the 13th :D

Darkgod

11-23-2007, 09:38 PM

Then I stand corrected. Almost everything.

pastor_ice43

11-23-2007, 10:39 PM

you are living in the past. you can't get over that one of your favorite movie's series is now dead. what else can they possibly do? do you really want to see Shape go after John Tate? and then what, his son and his son, etc. they only way the can continue the series is by throwing out the family storyline and making it a Friday the 13th movie. deal with it.

It has nothing to do with living in the past...it's about living in the present and the power of the almighty dollar in todays world. Halloween isn't dead, and neither is Friday, or Nightmare...those are 3 movie series' that will always continue on. Don't take it out on me because your hero sucks shit at making movies, and totally blew his opportunity to make a decent halloween movie. Fact is, even after the Friday remake comes out, and even if they make a Nightmare remake...there will still be sequels to those series', just like Halloween.

ASoron0424

11-23-2007, 11:33 PM

It doesn't matter if there are no recurring characters. They're still sequels. And I seriously doubt that MOST people think Land is a sequel to the Dawn remake. In fact, I don't know of ANYONE that does. Your just fishing now dude. The original Halloween will eventually have a sequel...and zombie's will fade into obscurity...deal with it.

The first example that jumps to mind to refute that is that a lot of people in their thirties and forties, if you ask them about Invasion of the Body Snatchers, a lot of them will probably think back to the 70s remake, the one they saw with their friends when they were young. Yeah, the original is more popular on a general level, but they'll remember that one personally. Same thing with this Halloween remake.

Look at the Hills Have Eyes series, I think twenty years from now people are only gonna look back on the 2004 version as the truly good one, and move onto those sequels. I know personally (aside from the board) two or three people who saw the original HHE, and I don't know anyone who saw the sequel to the original.

I think I'm actually one of a lot of people who are hoping Wes Craven's version will fade away into Hollywood's horror movie special-ed background and never be referenced again within the next fifteen years or so.

I don't think it's in the works yet, but Tyler Mane signed up for another Halloween, a sequel to Zombie's, and even though people are always gonna associate Halloween with John Carpenter, Zombie will always be right behind him.

réÐþÁ†µ

11-24-2007, 07:56 PM

You cant change or erase the past.

Some will just assume forget or act like it never happened but its always there.

You make some good points though. Generation gaps may be the deciding factor on what a generation may view as a good movie or not a good movie. Nevertheless there are some movies that are incontroversally proveable to be absolute shit regardless if it was in 2007, 1987 or 1977.

I view a movie like Halloween 1978 as a classic that kick started the slasher sub genre. Nevertheless the movie has some wear and tear on it now a good 25 years later. The remake while entertaining in both versions. Doesnt hold an atmospheric candle to the original whatsoever. Rob Zombie's Halloween was entertaining but a victim of what was presumebly and/or evidently a rushed production or a mediocre filmmaker.

Probably both.

cmurdur

11-25-2007, 12:57 PM

It has nothing to do with living in the past...it's about living in the present and the power of the almighty dollar in todays world. Halloween isn't dead, and neither is Friday, or Nightmare...those are 3 movie series' that will always continue on. Don't take it out on me because your hero sucks shit at making movies, and totally blew his opportunity to make a decent halloween movie. Fact is, even after the Friday remake comes out, and even if they make a Nightmare remake...there will still be sequels to those series', just like Halloween.

WHAT ELSE CAN THEY DO WITH THE ORIGINAL HALLOWEEN SERIES? NO MATTER WHAT THEY WILL DO, IT WILL BE SHITTY.