Where they are and how they got there

[ASoron0424]

This is just for peoples' opinions on where horror movies are right now and how we got there.

For example, if you think horror movies are at a point where true fear has left the picture and it's all about shock, give some reasoning, explain how you think we got to that point (because all of these thoughts obviously involve an audience's participation, the fact that they keep buying tickets), whether you think it's good or not, if it'll change, and if so, when, etc.

...I hope this doesn't turn into another remake discussion...

[Cataclysm]

Kinda hard to avoid a remake discussion when the majority of horror movies that are coming out today are remakes.

[desiredisaster]

I think technology is to blame for the decreased quality in horror movies. There are very few horror movies that have come out that are truly psychologically captivating. CG seemed to have moved in and take the place of solid story writing. And I think that has a lot to do with why we are seeing remakes do so well. People want a combination of the two, they want the classic stories with modern day gore. But all in all I think a solid story could make all the difference. Anyone ( and lately it really feels like anyone) can make a slasher movie but to create a movie that embodies all the elements of fear (suspense, paranoia, intrigue, shock, etc.) mixed in with a realistic and BELIEVABLE setting, well, not only is a movie of this caliber long overdue but if such a film was to be made it would probably go down in history. It would be nice if directors and writers alike both aimed to duplicate the phenomenon that took place upon the Exorcist's release. The Exorcist for those of you who don't know was one of, if not the only, horror movie in history to win two academy awards and be nominated for ten. Story matters and that seems to be what's missing.

[TacK]

Personally i'd rather have the Special FX and all that jazz of the early 90's and before horror than this CGI infested shit.

[Darkgod]

Movies are so far below the 80 and 70's now. Not only for the cgi vs Special FX. But just for quality. I recently got my first taste of Hammer movies with Lee and Cushing. And damn they are some good shit.

[desiredisaster]

It seems like the movies of 20-30 years ago were aloud to do so much more. I recently just watched The Holy Mountain which came out, if i remember correctly, 1968. If it wasn't for this movie flying under the radar I think people would be probably be protesting its release. Insane violence, enough sex and nudity to probably get an X rating, and overall just bizarre sacrilegious imagery. It's not really horror as much as it is just really weird but worth checking out, if for no other reason, to see how film has/ hasn't grown since then.

[Misfit]

It seems like the movies of 20-30 years ago were aloud to do so much more. I recently just watched The Holy Mountain which came out, if i remember correctly, 1968. .

1973

[Darkgod]

Thats like I watched Dracula 1d 1972, and it said rated PG before it started. Theres blood galore, although no nudity. But if that came out today thats a movie that would have to be edited to get a PG-13 rating.

[desiredisaster]

Yeah, the weird thing about The Holy Mountain is that I've gotten three different release dates now. 1968, 72, and 75. Regardless, I love this movie.

[Misfit]

Yeah, the weird thing about The Holy Mountain is that I've gotten three different release dates now. 1968, 72, and 75. Regardless, I love this movie.

for the second time 1973

[thrEE6MAfia]

never herd of the holy moutain..and i looove old 70s movies...def. goona look for it..

[FreddyFreakChica17]

I think horror has definitely died down over the years. It seems like all the creativity has fallen out of Hollywood. This is why they've turned to CGI and remakes (plus they save/earn more money this way without having to do as much.) It also doesn't help that people are afraid to try something new because the MPAA will tear it to shreds. I mean, back in the seventies horror films were rated PG...now today's R is the equivelent of the 1990's PG-13. If it's too bloody/gorey, there's too much sex, etc., the MPAA won't let it be released into theaters. That's sad.

I don't think that the studios aim for scares or quality - they do care about shock value and the money that the film will earn. If it's flashy enough to attract teenyboppers into the theaters they'll earn a lot of money, regardless of how good the film actually is. It's time we went back to writing decent scripts to go along with great effects, rather than just relying on effects to make the movie.

[dead breed]

It seems like the movies of 20-30 years ago were aloud to do so much more. I recently just watched The Holy Mountain which came out, if i remember correctly, 1968. If it wasn't for this movie flying under the radar I think people would be probably be protesting its release. Insane violence, enough sex and nudity to probably get an X rating, and overall just bizarre sacrilegious imagery. It's not really horror as much as it is just really weird but worth checking out, if for no other reason, to see how film has/ hasn't grown since then.

Holy Mountain is kick ass!!!! Also check out El Topo, these movies are crazy and the sacrilegious imagery and subliminal msgs are amazing.