Muslim another word for killer?

[Driden]

A British primary school teacher has been arrested in Sudan, accused of insulting Islam's Prophet by letting her class of 7-year-olds name a teddy bear Muhammad, her school said on Monday.

Colleagues of Gillian Gibbons told Reuters they feared for her safety after receiving reports that young men had already started gathering outside the Khartoum police station where the Liverpool woman was being held.

Teachers at Unity High School in central Khartoum said Gibbons, 54, made an innocent mistake and simply let her pupils choose their favorite name for the toy as part of a school project.
Police arrested Gibbons on Sunday at her home inside the school premises, said Unity director Robert Boulos, after a number of parents made a complaint to Sudan's Ministry of Education.

Boulos said she had since been charged with "blasphemy," an offense he said was punishable with up to three months in prison and a fine.

"We are very worried about her safety," he added.

Source (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21973378/?GT1=10547)
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nice lil religion there huh? Always ready to threaten and kill someone. Can you imagine the bloodshed we would have if other religions were this anal? Jesus is not only a common name but its even a bad word and used in explict context.

Going to jail over this? Makes me start believing the Bible! The Bible says the world will become 1 religion and if you do not 'bow' (which Muslims do) you will be beheaded (which muslims do). Just a hunch but perhaps this 1 world religion is Islam?

[Wrathborne]

Yeah...my patience has run out for this shit.

[slimeisacharacter]

Think is far fetched? Only takes the right folks in power to get similar laws over here. We already have a nice president who acts outside the law in regards to other areas. That little report may sound unheard of, but we are a mere stone throw from it ourselves in the states. Such is life... :shakehead

[pastor_ice43]

We are 100 oceans away from that happening in America my friend. Don't get ahead of yourself.

[RIP]

Bullshit Pastor.

You may be wrapped up too tightly in your religion of choice to see it, but we're right in the thick of it.

[slimeisacharacter]

We are 100 oceans away from that happening in America my friend. Don't get ahead of yourself.

We have come along ways down the rabbit hole over the last decade or so. We are not as far off as some think. Not to say we will fall down that hill, but we are alot closer than we used to be.

[DrSatan]

I would never step foot in a country where Islam was the dominant religion. I'd rather not spend months or even years in jail for insulting someone's imaginary friend.

[Driden]

Update

http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photo_StoryLevel/071129/071129_sudan_hmed_7a.h2.jpg

A British teacher in Sudan was convicted Thursday of the less-serious charge of insulting Islam for letting her pupils name a teddy bear “Muhammad,” and was sentenced to 15 days in prison and deportation to Britain.

Gillian Gibbons could have received 40 lashes and six months in prison in the case if found guilty of the more serious charge of inciting religious hatred and given the maximum penalty

Appeal planned




Source (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22007049/?GT1=10547)


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6 months in prison for 'religious hatred'? excuse me? Ever heard of opinions?

[slimeisacharacter]

And people wonder why I don't go to church... :shakehead

[Luris Blear]

Bullshit Pastor.

You may be wrapped up too tightly in your religion of choice to see it, but we're right in the thick of it.Most of this country's loudest pundits are actually too wrapped up in their moral philosophy to see it. God-inspired or godless are just two versions of the same mistake.

It's Christmas time again. Type "Christmas Tree" into Google News -- you'll find it already.

As for her sentence: Why appeal? Get out of that miserable place quickly and let them find some other victim. A plane ticket out of there is not a punishment by any stretch of the imagination.

[WarBeast]

Bullshit Pastor.

You may be wrapped up too tightly in your religion of choice to see it, but we're right in the thick of it.

What do you expect from a guy who said if it were up to him, he would make it a felony to commit adultery? Sounds like our good pastor would love living in such a theocratic nation like Sudan... as long as it was a Christian theocracy, that is...

[Wrathborne]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071130/ap_on_re_af/sudan_british_teacher
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And now thousands of sudanese are calling for her execution, what the fuck is it with this religion and violence? this is getting beyond the crusades.

[Godfatha]

Not that I agree with the heavy handedness of the response, it's not worth jail. At best, a slap on the wrist and send her on her way. However, I do think she should have bloody well known better than to let something like that go through. It's not like it's a well kept secret that using 'Muhammad' outside of a religious context is something frowned upon by Muslim culture. I have to assume she is aware of where she lives and teaches and the common sense in those areas.

Could have shortened it to 'Mo'. Definitely a lack of foresight on her part for someone who teaches in a Muslim/Christian school to not know the culture she's teaching.

I'm sure the British government will get her out in due time with harsh words.

[Grendel]

Could you have made the title a little more inflammatory?

There's over a billion adherents of Islam in the world. These fundamentalists in Sudan calling for execution are totally out of line (as was the original charge, IMO), but so is indicting that many people for their actions.

[pastor_ice43]

Bullshit Pastor.

You may be wrapped up too tightly in your religion of choice to see it, but we're right in the thick of it.

Please. In a country where Christmas Trees are now "Holiday Trees", we are further away from being forced to believe a certain religion then we've ever been. This country has never been as centered on the secular plain as it is right now.

What do you expect from a guy who said if it were up to him, he would make it a felony to commit adultery? Sounds like our good pastor would love living in such a theocratic nation like Sudan... as long as it was a Christian theocracy, that is...

That has nothing to do with religion...Marriage is the same thing as a legally binding contract, it should be treated as such. Felony may be a touch over the top...but there should be some sort of legal punishment outside of "half your stuff". In any event..this country is undeniably more secular then it's ever been.

-The term "Holiday" replaces "Christmas"--check

-Prayer illegal in school--check

-Evolution part of the required curriculum, yet even the sheer mention that it's only a theory is punishable by being fired since it MAY hint at creationism as a possible scenario--check

-Illegal to post the 10 Commandments on any public property--check

Now don't get me wrong...I don't mind separation of church and state, even Christ was in favor of that...but to say we're closer to being FORCED to believe a certain religion or suffer the consequences by way of law is ridiculous. Things have never been more neutral.

[bravenewworld1]

Please. In a country where Christmas Trees are now "Holiday Trees", we are further away from being forced to believe a certain religion then we've ever been. This country has never been as centered on the secular plain as it is right now.



That has nothing to do with religion...Marriage is the same thing as a legally binding contract, it should be treated as such. Felony may be a touch over the top...but there should be some sort of legal punishment outside of "half your stuff". In any event..this country is undeniably more secular then it's ever been.

-The term "Holiday" replaces "Christmas"--check

-Prayer illegal in school--check

-Evolution part of the required curriculum, yet even the sheer mention that it's only a theory is punishable by being fired since it MAY hint at creationism as a possible scenario--check

-Illegal to post the 10 Commandments on any public property--check

Now don't get me wrong...I don't mind separation of church and state, even Christ was in favor of that...but to say we're closer to being FORCED to believe a certain religion or suffer the consequences by way of law is ridiculous. Things have never been more neutral.

Well i guess i will add my opinions (that have pretty much already been stated).
1. Marriage is a religious concept.
2. In MANY American states it is crime to commit adultery. I don't think it is a felony, and i do not think that it is harshly enforced but it is a crime.

I honestly, do not support gay marriage in a church because of this and i think people are misinformed or misdirected when they bitch about such.

[slimeisacharacter]

Please. In a country where Christmas Trees are now "Holiday Trees", we are further away from being forced to believe a certain religion then we've ever been. This country has never been as centered on the secular plain as it is right now.



That has nothing to do with religion...Marriage is the same thing as a legally binding contract, it should be treated as such. Felony may be a touch over the top...but there should be some sort of legal punishment outside of "half your stuff". In any event..this country is undeniably more secular then it's ever been.

-The term "Holiday" replaces "Christmas"--check

-Prayer illegal in school--check

-Evolution part of the required curriculum, yet even the sheer mention that it's only a theory is punishable by being fired since it MAY hint at creationism as a possible scenario--check

-Illegal to post the 10 Commandments on any public property--check

Now don't get me wrong...I don't mind separation of church and state, even Christ was in favor of that...but to say we're closer to being FORCED to believe a certain religion or suffer the consequences by way of law is ridiculous. Things have never been more neutral.

Holiday has not replaced christmas completely. Many activities and items are referred to as christmas, or at worse Xmas, related.

On with the show:

Many courts still use BIBLES to swear in witnesses--check.

Just about all pieces of currency mention God in some way--check.

Carrolling songs still remain dominately Christ or christmas related, rather than generic holiday--check.

Angels and stars still main decoration for top of christmas trees--check.

See, I can do that too.

[pastor_ice43]

Holiday has not replaced christmas completely. Many activities and items are referred to as christmas, or at worse Xmas, related.

On with the show:

Many courts still use BIBLES to swear in witnesses--check.

Just about all pieces of currency mention God in some way--check.

Carrolling songs still remain dominately Christ or christmas related, rather than generic holiday--check.

Angels and stars still main decoration for top of christmas trees--check.

See, I can do that too.

All of the stuff you mention has nothing to due with us moving FURTHER twords a government imposed religion. America was founded under god...so thats going to be on the money and the bible is going to be used to swear in people for many years to come, as it should be. Christmas is a Christian holiday, so yes, most Christmas carols will have a christian theme..and a lot of christmas trees will have angels for the topper. My point is 60 years ago, it was not uncommon to see prayer in school, or the 10 commandments posted anywhere. Now the mere mention of any religion in the wrong public setting can result in job losses or lawsuits. There's no question that the majority of people are religious in some way, however I'm simply saying that we're as far away from religion being a law then we've ever been.

[RIP]

A little food for thought Pastor...

Several states still have religious tests on the books. A few examples from wikipedia:

• Arkansas' Constitution of 1874 (Article 19, Section 1) states: "Atheists disqualified from holding office or testifying as witness. No person who denies the being of a God shall hold any office in the civil departments of this State, nor be competent to testify as a witness in any Court."

• North Carolina's Constitution of 1971 (Article 6, Section 8) states: "Disqualifications of office. The following persons shall be disqualified for office: First, any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God...."[22]. This was challenged and overturned by Voswinkel v. Hunt (1979).

• South Carolina's Constitution of 2006 (Article 6, Section 2) states: "Person denying existence of Supreme Being not to hold office. No person who denies the existence of the Supreme Being shall hold any office under this Constitution."

• Tennessee's Constitution/Bill of Rights (Article 9, Section 2) states: "No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishments, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state."

• Texas' Constitution: The Bill of Rights (Article I, Section 4) last amended on September 13, 2003 states that an official may be "excluded from holding office" if she/he does not "acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being."[25] Overturned by O'Hair v. Hill (1978-84).

What's an atheist to do? The Constitution is the only thing keeping us from being like them. The very same Constitution that our worthless human being of a president has been wiping his ass with for the last 7 years.

[slimeisacharacter]

All of the stuff you mention has nothing to due with us moving FURTHER twords a government imposed religion. America was founded under god...so thats going to be on the money and the bible is going to be used to swear in people for many years to come, as it should be. Christmas is a Christian holiday, so yes, most Christmas carols will have a christian theme..and a lot of christmas trees will have angels for the topper. My point is 60 years ago, it was not uncommon to see prayer in school, or the 10 commandments posted anywhere. Now the mere mention of any religion in the wrong public setting can result in job losses or lawsuits. There's no question that the majority of people are religious in some way, however I'm simply saying that we're as far away from religion being a law then we've ever been.

Do you have a picture of Jesus in your house? Morbid curiousity.

[toxicangel19]

i dont think anyone should be arrested for this crap no matter what religon it comes from.....this is terrible.....i dont get why countries are allowed to do this...

[pastor_ice43]

A little food for thought Pastor...

Several states still have religious tests on the books. A few examples from wikipedia:

• Arkansas' Constitution of 1874 (Article 19, Section 1) states: "Atheists disqualified from holding office or testifying as witness. No person who denies the being of a God shall hold any office in the civil departments of this State, nor be competent to testify as a witness in any Court."

• North Carolina's Constitution of 1971 (Article 6, Section 8) states: "Disqualifications of office. The following persons shall be disqualified for office: First, any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God...."[22]. This was challenged and overturned by Voswinkel v. Hunt (1979).

• South Carolina's Constitution of 2006 (Article 6, Section 2) states: "Person denying existence of Supreme Being not to hold office. No person who denies the existence of the Supreme Being shall hold any office under this Constitution."

• Tennessee's Constitution/Bill of Rights (Article 9, Section 2) states: "No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishments, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state."

• Texas' Constitution: The Bill of Rights (Article I, Section 4) last amended on September 13, 2003 states that an official may be "excluded from holding office" if she/he does not "acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being."[25] Overturned by O'Hair v. Hill (1978-84).

What's an atheist to do? The Constitution is the only thing keeping us from being like them. The very same Constitution that our worthless human being of a president has been wiping his ass with for the last 7 years.

Thats all well and good, but I'd like to see any one of those state governments try to actually impose those little tidbits. It would go to the supreme court and be thrown out faster then Bill Maher goes down on Barack Osama every time he sees him. Those laws may have been, and probably were relevant all the way through the middle of the 20th century, but none would pass now, and thats my point exactly. There are plenty of asinine laws on the books in all 50 states, and plenty that aren't upheld and would never pass in court today.

Do you have a picture of Jesus in your house? Morbid curiousity.

I do...I also have a picture of him on my MySpace.

[GrimBeornTheOld]

Exactly why I don't care much for organized religion in general.