crocodile tears: how to win an election...

[Wrathborne]

I think you all know wha I'm refering too here, Hillary Clintons highly offensive 'break down' in front of a crowd of supporters and reporters yesterday when it looked like she wasnt going to win NH.

I almost couldnt beleive the bullshit that was dripping down her cheecks, bu tthen again this is politics and shes playing to win, but it still doesnt change the fact shes arguably worse than any other candidate for pulling this.

Huckabee: Former fat fucktard who's really justa rehash of the usual Republicanisms and ne wlevels of stupiditly.

Guliani: 9/11, 9/11, 9/11....9/11

John Edwards: About as distinguishable from the general generic democratic presidential nominee as the next southern white guy with a $200 hair cut and goofy grin. HEY, they're OUT there! You just gotta look for them!

All three of these boys have something to pull, Guilliani has 9/11, Edwards has his wifes cancer as well as 'crusading to stop W back in 2004', Huckabee has Chuck Norris.

But for Clinton to pull the whole 'the boys wont let me play, I just wanna play' bullshit in front of the entire country is really just foul. before I continue I'll say this, I'm cool for women running for president, hell, I'll even vote a female presidental candidate, but not for Hillary Clinton.

I dont know about you guys but this was one of these most pathetics cards I've ever seen played in Politics in my lifetime, and while I lean a smidge more towards the 'pubs than the dems.

With all the million other Q's coming to mind I thought I'd include this Q as well:

I will say this, anyone else see it as offensive that in our nations history a white woman can be president before a black man?

I'm not really an Obama fan, yeah hes a good speaker and all, but I don't quite buy him as a candidate yet.

But all things considared it looks like we might get a female president before we get a black president. Does this go against America as 'the land of oppertunity'? After over 250 years of white men(mainly from the south) we're in a new milennia of change for our country, why is the democratic front runner a white woman, especially one with lack of morales, values and of course, dignity?

I'm seriously considaring voting for Obama just to put an end to the fact that our country's leaders are all the same color, but as we've all got 11 months left of this BS I thought I'd bring upa few odd Q's for you to mull over.

feel free to unload/share.

[dead breed]

Ive been following the election happenings very closely, and if I was a US citizen, I would give my vote to Obama. Would be nice to see a change.

[Creator_and_Destroyer]

I am for neither. I am actually for Mike Gravel. I know he doesn't have a chance, but I'm standing by him. He's a strong candidate. I don't want Obama nor Clinton. Both of them are just like everyone else, except one is black and one is female. Two big differences, but they're gonna do the same shit every other president has in the past. I want change. Mike Gravel will give that to us given the chance.

[Wrathborne]

paid for by Mike Gravel?

[Highwayman]

Ive been following the election happenings very closely, and if I was a US citizen, I would give my vote to Obama. Would be nice to see a change.

:bored:

Bullshit.

[Wrathborne]

back to the hilarious house of dr.Frightenstein with you.

[Oravear]

McCain has my vote, if he gets to that point anyway

[Luris Blear]

Maybe McCain will and maybe McCain won't. Best to check To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. and see which direction the wind is heading.

I don't buy that Obama isn't experienced enough. That just sounds like a bucnh of career politicians moaning and whining that someone outside their network got in.

And as far as the Republicans go, I'd like to see Ron Paul in 08. Not happening, but he's my favorite.

[WarBeast]

And as far as the Republicans go, I'd like to see Ron Paul in 08. Not happening, but he's my favorite.

We are in total agreement... I'd been meaning to ask you if you are a paul supporter, but I hadn't got around to it. His philosophy sounds a lot like what I hear you say on a lot of issues.

I don't agree with him 100% on all the issues, but I like about 95% of his stances on issues.

[RIP]

Paul has the right idea on the war, but most of his views are just too ridiculous for my tastes.

As for Hillary getting teared up...normally I feel the same way (like when Romney got teared up earlier in the campaign when mormon's decided to ease up on blacks), but watching her the other day I can honestly say it looked like genuine fatigue.

She had lost the Iowa caucus, she was exhausted, she was taking a major beating in the media, and some woman (who ended up voting for Obama) asked her how she was doing. It struck me as one of those moments when you're hiding your emotions just fine until someone asks you about them.

[toxicangel19]

i don't know if im going to vote this year im still confused about which candidate to go for.....i just want someone who will deal with healthcare, illegal immigration,the economy, the mideast situation with some damn sense.....

[JerkyPuck]

If you think about it though...it can go two ways. Some people could see her breaking down as weakness. If she can't handle this, how will she handle 8 years of Presidency? I am still on the fence, but I do know I want change. I just don't know enough about anyone yet.

[Grendel]

I'm pulling for Obama, myself, but regardless, calling that a "breakdown" is some serious exaggeration.

If you want to see crocodile tears, just search (House minority leader) "John Boehner" and "crying"...

[JerkyPuck]

I'm pulling for Obama, myself, but regardless, calling that a "breakdown" is some serious exaggeration.

If you want to see crocodile tears, just search (House minority leader) "John Boehner" and "crying"...

I agree. She really just got a little teary IMO. She just looks like a woman who is exhausted and got a little emotional for 2 seconds.

[RIP]

No doubt Grendel. Boner crying in congress is priceless.

[Grendel]

IMO, the most interesting thing about the New Hampshire numbers somehow went unmentioned by any of the talking heads on TV:

While they--endlessly--pointed out Clinton taking the majority of the female vote in NH where Obama had it in Iowa, no one seemed to notice that Obama held virtually the same percentage in both states (around 35%). The whole "swing" came from female support peeling off from Edwards (and, presumably, some undecideds).

I'm more curious as to how/why that occurred.

[Vampire Lestat]

I'm going to play the "human" card here and say that I think people are being way too hard on Hilary Clinton. Yes, she's in politics and you need to keep a stiff upper lip at almost all times but seriously people let's cut her a break. So what! She became very emotional and she started to cry and almost weep for a few seconds. The woman looks exausted. And if it was just all bullshit then good then give her an award and move on. I would like to see the reaction of everyone out there if it was a man that broke down like that in front of the camera.

[RIP]

...calling that a "breakdown" is some serious exaggeration.



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Pretty much sums up your point nicely I think.

[Revenant]

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Pretty much sums up your point nicely I think.

The final part with the clip from Giuliani and Stewart's reaction had me rolling that night..


I would like to see the reaction of everyone out there if it was a man that broke down like that in front of the camera.

That isn't a breakdown, seems more like pandering.

[Luris Blear]

I remember Santorum's daughter crying on camera, for what it's worth.

[pastor_ice43]

This election is shaping up to be a pile of shit. Neither Clinton nor Obama will get my vote, but it looks like Gulliani is going to get the Repub. nod, and I don't want him in office either. Damn. I personally like Thompson for the Repubs, but he isn't anywhere near getting the nod

[RIP]

Giuliani is done. looks like McCain will be your boy.

[JerkyPuck]

Giuliani is done. looks like McCain will be your boy.

Right considering polls in his own state have him with only a 3 pt lead on McCain and a 5 point margin of error. Wow...in his OWN state.

[Grendel]

Right considering polls in his own state have him with only a 3 pt lead on McCain and a 5 point margin of error. Wow...in his OWN state.He's put himself in a real bad spot. All the divorces, pro-choice opinions, acceptance of gay people, etc., cost him the social conservative vote. His ghoulish "President of 9/11" campaign style has alienated a lot more people, across the board.

[RIP]

Not to mention the fact that he can't complete a full sentence without saying "Ronald Reagan."

[JerkyPuck]

Conservatism isn't what it used to be. Republicans will never elect a Conservative who is socially liberal.

[Grendel]

Conservatism isn't what it used to be.To say the very least.

More accurately, though, I think it's the GOP that isn't what it used to be, over the last seven years having abandoned many of its formerly core principles.

[JerkyPuck]

You're right. It started in the Reagan era with Falwell and all that religious right garbage and has ended up a farce of its former self.

[Luris Blear]

I agree with this view of conservatism, but liberalism has had its changes too. Consider days of God prescribing equal rights, for instance. To say nothing of a current culture where rich people can tell you that rich people want to steal all your money, so the best solution is to give it to other rich people first.

I want to think there was a time when the liberals would have invoked Orwell on sight rather than make this a campaign issue.

Politics on both sides have changed to where both sides want to dictate one moral path for the entire country.

[Dr. Phibes]

Conservatism isn't what it used to be. Republicans will never elect a Conservative who is socially liberal.

I think they'll have no choice if he's up against a Socialist-in-Democrat's-clothing like Obama Or Clinton.

[Dr. Phibes]

To say the very least.

More accurately, though, I think it's the GOP that isn't what it used to be, over the last seven years having abandoned many of its formerly core principles.

Hardly abandoned. New blood seems to have co-opted the mainstream party line, but the core principals are alive and well. Unfortunately, not with McCain.

[Darkgod]

That is why I believe in:

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