Superbowl 42

[réÐþÁ†µ]

NYG vs. New England - New England

8-2 overall

Will put together some thoughts on this game later within these two weeks. All I'll say is I wish it was Packers/Pats because of the history for both franchises. A veteran QB who coulda went out in style vs arguably the greatest single season team in history with one more win.

Nevetheless, with the Giants.

Its Boston vs. NY all over again which is always a good time for people in the NorthEast. Its also Manning vs. Brady again which will be the 3rd time a Manning has placed this team this season.

Cant wait, but I actually look forward to the bye week. Pats Defense is so shit right now outside of redzone D that BB really needs to rehaul things IMO.

[dead breed]

Pats have this game. zzzzz That's all there is to it.

[Max Payne]

Pats win going away, I think the Giants and Eli pull the same stunt that Grossman and the Bears did last year.

Have a up and down season, play awesome in the playoffs and then the pressure of the SB game and winning it shows the real you.

[steelba]

All I'll say is I wish it was Packers/Pats because of the history for both franchises. A veteran QB who coulda went out in style vs arguably the greatest single season team in history with one more win.


Shut up with that filth :2far:

[Knight]

Patriots 38
Giants 17

Not a Pats fan, but I respect the hell out of Brady and will enjoy watching a master of the position do it the right way when it matters the most.

[Driden]

girls say the Pats got this shit

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5849/indexyr8.jpg

[réÐþÁ†µ]

Shut up with that filth :2far:

Like I said, the alternative is always a media savoring storyline.

Media loves that, it doesnt happen much in football but it will this season.

[thrEE6MAfia]

girls say the Pats got this shit

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5849/indexyr8.jpg

well if their goin with the pats then i am too

ill follow tom brady into a 300 vs a million battle(brady being on the 300 side)
TB is the fuckin man...hed also outa michigan U..:D

[skybrick]

G-Men vs Pats- Cheaters ummm I mean Pats

I think it will be a closer game then what people are giving credit for already. Especially if the G-Men can get some turnovers like the chargers did

LOL I just heard on tv. Congrats to the giants on your nfc championship win. get the championship t shirt and plaque for only 25.99

[réÐþÁ†µ]

girls say the Pats got this shit

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5849/indexyr8.jpg

They got it right.

[H78]

Patriots 31
Giants 27

[steelba]

Like I said, the alternative is always a media savoring storyline.

Media loves that, it doesnt happen much in football but it will this season.
Dude, #1 The Pats are gonna win regardless of who they played. #2 The Giants atleast took them to the limit. #3. the best teams won both games today.

NE to win is my pick..
8-2 in the playoffs.

[H78]

Give scores, suckaz! I like seeing what kind of game people expect.

[Joker]

Pats 31
Giants 17


I would like to see the Patriots win just because of Moss and Moroney both have been fun to watch over the years for me.Also not a Eli fan at all after what he pulled in the draft.

[réÐþÁ†µ]

Ne 28
Nyg 20

[Oravear]

24 Nyg
20 Ne

[Lucio Argento]

Ne 34
Nyg 27

[Revenant]

Giants 38
Pats 35

Hell, why not wish for an interesting superbowl, they took the pats to the end last time and they just beat the 2 best in the nfc to get there, I wouldn't count em' out.

[steelba]

If the Pats play like they did against San Diego they'll lose.

[Duff McCartney]

Nyg 27
Ne 21

[Grendel]

Brady in a foot cast:

Walking wounded: Brady spotted in cast

Monday, Jan 21, 2008 11:44 pm EST
Fans of the New England Patriots had to be swallowing hard Monday when pictures of quarterback Tom Brady sporting a walking cast on his right foot surfaced.

A video taken of Brady in New York Sunday, which is available on TMZ.com, shows the NFL's MVP returning to girlfriend Gisele Bundchen's apartment. He's walking gingerly on the sidewalk after emerging from a black SUV parked on the street.

During his weekly appearance on WEEI's "Dennis and Callahan" show, Brady didn't dismiss the notion he had suffered some type of leg injury during Sunday's AFC Championship win. "Ah, you know, there's always bumps and bruises. I'll be ready for the Super Bowl," Brady said, when asked point-blank if he had a leg injury.

[Knight]

Nothing a little pre-game shot of morphine can't fixer up.

[Darkgod]

A little concotion of cortizone/

[Grendel]

Nothing a little pre-game shot of morphine can't fixer up.Little shot of Gisele wouldn't hurt, either. TB just slipped even lower on the sympathy-o-meter.

[Darkgod]

He just wants our sympathy

[H78]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2triiYXSY8

Hitler's a Cowboys fan.

[Get Some]

pats win but definetly dont cover the 14 point spread

34-24 is my guess

[steelba]

spreads down to 12.

[réÐþÁ†µ]

Brady had a similiar ankle sprain back in 2001 in the AFC Championship game against the Steelers in which Bledsoe finished the game. Brady played in the Superbowl thereafter though. The ankle injury this time around isnt as severe supposibly so im not too worried about it.

[thrEE6MAfia]

hitler was a cowboys fan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2triiYXSY8

[IKickAssForTheLord]

thats funny.

[Darkgod]

Brady and his phantom injuries

[IKickAssForTheLord]

wow...I came in here to post somethin' but all I see at the bottom of the screen r links to...

Tom Brady Memorabilia
New England Patriots
Tom Bready | Fans

Now wtf is that shit.

[skybrick]

wow...I came in here to post somethin' but all I see at the bottom of the screen r links to...

Tom Brady Memorabilia
New England Patriots
Tom Bready | Fans

Now wtf is that shit.

Fright sees all the Pats ban wagon jumpers and probably agreed to put those ads on there for a little dough.

[steelba]

Fright sports patriots ads eh :cussing:

[cmurdur]

Charles Barkley's Fave 5 is getting some recognition.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

Charles Barkley's Fave 5 is getting some recognition.

lol I see that now

[IKickAssForTheLord]

Steelba I found the perfect picture for u when u lose the bet. :)

[steelba]

But i'm gonna win, and you'll be sporting a Shuan Alexander sig :mhehe:

[IKickAssForTheLord]

LOL NOOOO not SA!! I'll be the laughin' stock of UHM!

[steelba]

I'll have to find a picture of him 'downing himself' behind the line of scrimmage. Should be easy since he's always doing it :2far:

[IKickAssForTheLord]

Lol, yea it shouldn't be too hard...

The pic I found is from Superbowl 40. Its a good one, it has a seahawk talkin' to a ref and the ref is sayin somethin'... I'll leave it for a surprise. :)

[steelba]

I'm not liking the sound of this...

[dead breed]

Steelba and Ikickass .. what teams did you guys pick?

[IKickAssForTheLord]

we just made a bet that I say the NFC will win The Gaints, And I gave him the AFC The Pats. We made this bet before the Championship game so we didn't know who was gonna go in. Even though I figured the Pats would win and I thought the Packers would win. But I was wrong. So I got the Gaints and he has the Pats.

Never thought I would hear myself say this.... GO GAINTS!!!!

[dead breed]

we just made a bet that I say the NFC will win The Gaints, And I gave him the AFC The Pats. We made this bet before the Championship game so we didn't know who was gonna go in. Even though I figured the Pats would win and I thought the Packers would win. But I was wrong. So I got the Gaints and he has the Pats.

Never thought I would hear myself say this.... GO GAINTS!!!!

I would love to see The Giants cause the upset....but I really doubt it's going to happen.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

I would love to see The Giants cause the upset....but I really doubt it's going to happen.

well, I can't think that way cuz I don't want a Shaun Alexander picture in my SIG.

SO GO GIANTS!

[skybrick]

I hate media week with a passion, thats why I find myself watching Jeopardy

[IKickAssForTheLord]

I hate media week with a passion, thats why I find myself watching Jeopardy

Yea, I don't blame you.

[steelba]

I don't want a Shaun Alexander picture in my SIG.

Who wouldn't want this as their sig???















http://thebestsportsblog.com/images/2006/09/Shaun.jpg

[IKickAssForTheLord]

omg no....

[steelba]

ok or this...







http://blogs.king5.com/seahawks/images/alexander_niners062.jpg

[IKickAssForTheLord]

wow he looks real gay right there......

[steelba]

:mhehe:

[IKickAssForTheLord]

:nono:

[Joker]

I hate media week with a passion, thats why I find myself watching Jeopardy

Yeah,me too,but I do catch myself watching.

Seriously though,its always the same answer to the same question~They are a good team with a good record and it's gonna be a challenge bla,bla,bla :shakehead

They should add a little drama somehow like they do with Wresteling :D

[thrEE6MAfia]

lol

[manslaughter]

FUCK the patriots!!!!!

I know they're gonna win....but fuck em,cheating motherfuckers

[0 0 7]

Pats 30
Giants 20

[Beware]

They cheated and beat my hometown team in their first super bowl a few years ago.

Reports surfaced they taped the Rams' final walkthrough the day before the super bowl.

If this is confirmed, do like they do in my olympics, strip them of that championship...

GO GIANTS.

[Joker]

Reports surfaced they taped the Rams' final walkthrough the day before the super bowl.

If this is confirmed, do like they do in my olympics, strip them of that championship...



Is this something the league is looking into,or are you just spouting off ?
I havent heard anything about it.

[Max Payne]

just the media looking for a story, and another reason for the Pats to destroy the teams there playing.

undefeated season with the Pats under the microscope should of been enough to prove to people they were winning because they played better, but i guess they dont care about facts.

[Beware]

watch sportscenter, it was all about it the first 5 minutes.

[réÐþÁ†µ]

I take it with a grain of salt.

Convienant the story breaks a day or so before the Superbowl. This kind of storybreaking always tends to break right before any major event usually like clockwork.

This could be just some disgruntled former employee looking for pub and someone to help him with his legal issues or it could be the real thing.

Obviously people who hate them want the real thing. But as of now, I'd call it convienant sensationalization.

[dead breed]

I predict

NE 28
NYG 20

[skybrick]

The Giants look like they have more upside and will but I can easily tell that New England is the better team.

[dead breed]

The Giants look like they have more upside and will but I can easily tell that New England is the better team.

Yeah The Giants are doing better and playing a tighter game then I expected. But you can see NE has the upper hand. I'm still waiting for The Giants to pull off that miracle. *Fingers crossed*

[Knight]

Brady is getting destroyed.

[dead breed]

Brady is getting destroyed.

True dat.

I was expecting a game with much more scoring though.

[Oravear]

did anyone else think that the lite guitar on the field looked like a giant dick?

[dead breed]

did anyone else think that the lite guitar on the field looked like a giant dick?

:lol: I can see what you mean.

[Knight]

did anyone else think that the lite guitar on the field looked like a giant dick?

Looked like a Gibson Flying V to me. Then again, I don't go out looking for phallic symbolism during football games. :D

[skybrick]

The game has become patriots offensive line's worst nightmare.
Protection for Brady is tricky.

[skybrick]

Wow, gutsy gutsy 4th down play
If they play like this the whole game they are asking for a suicide mission.

[steelba]

NE clearly is not "The Best Team Ever'. SuperBore 42 is the name of this game. 7-3 late in the third, how super :2far:

[dead breed]

NE clearly is not "The Best Team Ever'. SuperBore 42 is the name of this game. 7-3 late in the third, how super :2far:

I want to see The NYG just score a touch down out of no where and fuck with everyones mind.

[Knight]

This is a great game. I mean I'm sure the lack of big offensive plays is driving the ADD football fans nuts but the blitzing schemes of the Giants have been amazing to watch.

[skybrick]

Hell Yeah
There's a new Boss in town.

[dead breed]

My wish came true lol :rocker: GO GIANTS

yessssss they scored just in time to make the game interesting and fuck with everyones mind.

[dead breed]

13-10

Fuck Brady and NE

[skybrick]

What heart by Eli
What heart

[skybrick]

Do you fucking believe in miracles
YES
YES

[Max Payne]

terrible offenive calling, pats desered to lose

[Knight]

Unbelievable. Instant classic.

[Highwayman]

Agreed. That was Fantastic!

[steelba]

13-10

Fuck Brady and NE
Fucking right! I'm very happy to be wrong right now. I wont be so happ once Ikickass gets on here with a new sig picture for me to sport for the next month :cussing:

Biggest upset in NFL history and someone finally beat the cheaters.
Eli Manning is Unstoppable!

[skybrick]

I still cant believe the heart by Eli.
He was doomed for a sack and two different pats had his pads.
I thought he was fucked for good. But his slipperness and that unbealivable throw.
Wow.
What a blow up.
God Bless Eli.

[steelba]

He played better than Brady and now we can puta squash on the NFC can't fuck with the AFC talk too. Giants stepped it up and played on hell of a game :drunks:
Fucking awesome.

[LgOr]

heart pounding final minutes. great game

[Max Payne]

I still cant believe the heart by Eli.
He was doomed for a sack and two different pats had his pads.
I thought he was fucked for good. But his slipperness and that unbealivable throw.
Wow.
What a blow up.
God Bless Eli.

so much heart indeed.

i can count 10 times this season the pats had a qb down for a sack, only for something like that to happen.

and ansante samuel, i hope he enjoys who ever pays him 10 mil a year, with a chance to INT that ball and it bounces off his hands, i cant even describe how much out of all the shit that happened that was the one that made me the most pissed.

the whole 19-0 thing, oh well pats will be known as the biggest chokes of all time, and brady even if he was out there playing on a broken ankle i dont care what it was just took a huge hit, greatist qb's of all time do not lose superbowls, and wether it was him or the bum offenisve cordinator, i dont know but someone needs to own up to that terrible play calling, at one point in the game with all those turn overs, including the ones that NE got but werent giving to, 7-3 with a chance to cash in, the pats call 6 straight running plays, yea you strength is passing and now your trying a change up in the biggest game of the year.

i guess being spoiled all year in a better part of 7 years changes someone, cause i normally would flip out when something like this happens, but i cant even begin to defend a single person on the pats team, i dont even know if they will win another SB under Brady, i mean they should, they have the talent but unlike before, its clear now that it isnt as easy as it once looked.

congrats to the giants

[réÐþÁ†µ]

Great game.

Instant classic.

Defensive Battle.

Manning played well, Brady did play well too. Brady isnt to blame for the loss. The Defense played their heart out but in the end, couldnt hold it.

[steelba]

Not taking that field goal was the worst coaching decsion in SB history.

[réÐþÁ†µ]

Not taking that field goal was the worst coaching decsion in SB history.

I dont think they trusted Ghost and I wouldnt either.

49 yards even in the dome. Ghost has been shaky all season.

[CrazySicilian]

Hell yes.


Hell FUCKING yes.


This was an amazing game, one of the best I've ever witnessed.

[Knight]

Yeah, there's no way you can hold Brady responsible. He simply didn't have enough time all game. Also he wasn't out there playing defense and had terrible field position almost all day.

The fact of the matter is the Pats were a finesse team built around the pass that got taken to school by an old fashioned defensive football team. Belichick = out schemed and straight up out coached.

[Max Payne]

Not taking that field goal was the worst coaching decsion in SB history.

i lied, if there is one thing i can defend is that.

i dont trust that guy, and if you saw that kick out of bounds, in a non pressure situation, then neither did belechick.

this game was lost by the pats and won by the giants on the front 4 of the giants, i said it before, and ill say it again, that is the best pass rushinh i ever seen.

and its the pats fault that they didnt do the underneath stuff until the last drive, and all they needed to do was make that sack.

[réÐþÁ†µ]

The fact of the matter is the Pats were a finesse team built around the pass that got taken to school by an old fashioned defensive football team. Belichick = out schemed and straight up out coached.

Indeed.

[LgOr]

Dynasty....
http://www.magazine.uc.edu/0798/images/sanderNEWIR.jpg

[steelba]

Kraft shouldn't be so damn cheap, if he would have payed to keep Vinateri they woulda made that FG or atleast attempted it. But atleast now we don't have to hear about how they were the greatest team ever.
I bet the 17-0 Dolphins are breaking out the champagne right now.

[Max Payne]

kraft wasnt being cheap, it was belechick an pioli saying they werent going to tie up all that money in the salarly cap for a kicker.

no salarly cap and im sure he is still here.

[dead breed]

When NE gained the lead for awhile I was sweating bullets. But THANK GOD The NYG put them in their place.

Great game.

I wonder what pic he's going to make you put in your sig Steelba? :haht:

[Knight]

no salarly cap and im sure he is still here.

No salary cap and you have Owens and Moss lining up side-by-side on teams like the Cowboys.

Salary cap = best thing to ever happen to the NFL.

[réÐþÁ†µ]

Final 3-4 minutes of that game were pretty epic IMO.

[dead breed]

Final 3-4 minutes of that game were pretty epic IMO.

Totally agree with you.

[LgOr]

perhaps Giselle should of stayed home

[Joker]

I agree that not attempting the field goal was a major mistake.
I would think different if the Pats were completing their passes like they usually do,but they were having trouble.

[dead breed]

I agree that not attempting the field goal was a major mistake.
I would think different if the Pats were completing their passes like they usually do,but they were having trouble.

They got lazy over the 2 weeks they had off and took it for granted that they'd win the Superbowl....nice to see them get a reality check.

[steelba]

I wonder what pic he's going to make you put in your sig Steelba? :haht:
Alsong as it's not Kordell Stuart, I fucking hate Kordel :mad:

[steelba]

I agree that not attempting the field goal was a major mistake.
I would think different if the Pats were completing their passes like they usually do,but they were having trouble.
Exactly :nod:

[skybrick]

Reality has finally set in over me.
Cant believe the Vikings creamed the Superbowl winning team.
Cant believe Eli got that throw off on the final drive
Cant believe they won the game.

Probably the best game Ive seen since the Titans got stopped on the one yard line to lose the game to the Rams.

[réÐþÁ†µ]

One of the greatest Superbowls of all time.

Sure it didnt have the offensive sensation that some probably thought it would. But it was an old fashioned defensive struggle until the end. Both QB's come through in clutch situations. Eli escaping pressure for a miracle throw and catch.

SB had it all IMO. Best one in the last 4 seasons.

[Joker]

Yep,one of the best Super bowls I've seen too.

I'm gonna need to buy a Citizen Watch now.:D

[GruesomeDuece]

I subsided my hate for Ole Miss tonight so I could root for 'ole Eli.

I thought a some of the Giant's offense was pretty sloppy, a lot of passes dropped that were easy catches. But they caught the ones that mattered. Brady's offense completely crumbled under the constant blitz pressure. Amazing defensive play-calling, plain and simple. The Pats were expecting a repeat of week 17, obviously. If they'd only had a video things would've ended up differently. :D

And Bilicheck's awesome display of sportsmanship at the end was priceless. He sure is a class act.

[Duff McCartney]

I'm glad the Patriots lost. Fuck those cheaters. Fuck Rodney Harrison. Fuck Junior Seau. Fuck Bill Belichick.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

Alsong as it's not Kordell Stuart, I fucking hate Kordel :mad:

OOOOOOH BABY!!! Glad I didn't pick the pats... didn't really think the Gaints were gonna play that good as they did. But Glad they did. But anyways I'll take it easy on ya.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc203/ilevakam962/060206_seahwaks_hmed_8a_h2.jpg

Thats what u gotta rock. I know how much you loved that moment. :D

[steelba]

I refuse to do that!

[Max Payne]

No salary cap and you have Owens and Moss lining up side-by-side on teams like the Cowboys.

Salary cap = best thing to ever happen to the NFL.

i didnt say it was a bad thing, just thats why vinny isnt here.

but kraft is worth 1.4 billion, so lets not talk about wether or not the pats can afford talent.

[Max Payne]

also, in light of recent allegations that the pats cheated in there first sb, i think it cost them this superbowl.

if it had not come to light, they would of cheated during this one too. im sure of it.

[steelba]

Very true, they haven't been able to win a SB without cheating. No video taping = no ring.

[ZION]

I'm glad the Patriots lost. Fuck those cheaters. Fuck Rodney Harrison. Fuck Junior Seau. Fuck Bill Belichick.

Fuck Mobb Deep, fuck Biggie, fuck Bad Boy as a staff, record label, and as a mother fuckin crew. And if you want to be down with Bad Boy, Then fuck you too.
Chino XL, fuck you too. All you mother fuckers, fuck you too. :nod: -2PAC

[Grendel]

also, in light of recent allegations that the pats cheated in there first sb, i think it cost them this superbowl.

if it had not come to light, they would of cheated during this one too. im sure of it.
Very true, they haven't been able to win a SB without cheating. No video taping = no ring.Again, I'm a Detroit fan, so I don't have a dog in this fight, but come on. If it was such a pervasive activity, how is it nothing came to light until now? Even if it was, you still have to be able to execute for 60 minutes against NFL-caliber talent that was good enough to get there, presumably on it's own merit and skill. "No tape = no ring" is a ridiculous stretch on many levels.

As for what anyone's "sure" of, Belichik got busted once, and now someone's coming up with a story from years ago that, conveniently enough, can't be proven, either way.

Bottom line, you've got rumor on one hand and three rings on the other. The former--and a buck fifty--will get you a cup of coffee, while the latter gets you into Gisele Bundchen's pants. In the absence of any real evidence, I know which of those I'll go with, every time.

Can't believe all the OLD sour grapes up in here when the Pats didn't even win...

[Max Payne]

grendel

<--- huge pat fan

i was being over the top sarcastic, cause at this point i still havent let this loss sit in.

it feels like losing another game, cause its the first one, a bit of a shock too.

brady and the pats blew 4 and 5 two years in a row, other then belechick and pepper johnson, no one of this teams coaches know wtf there doing.

[dead breed]

Fuck Mobb Deep, fuck Biggie, fuck Bad Boy as a staff, record label, and as a mother fuckin crew. And if you want to be down with Bad Boy, Then fuck you too.
Chino XL, fuck you too. All you mother fuckers, fuck you too. :nod: -2PAC

:lol: I have that song on my MP3 player.

O yeah... nice sig Steelba :D

[Grendel]

grendel

<--- huge pat fan

i was being over the top sarcastic, cause at this point i still havent let this loss sit in.

it feels like losing another game, cause its the first one, a bit of a shock too.

brady and the pats blew 4 and 5 two years in a row, other then belechick and pepper johnson, no one of this teams coaches know wtf there doing.Ah, gotcha. Well, that has to suck, man.

Between the late-stage collapses of the Pistons, Wings, Tigers, and Wolverines, "one step away" has been the main sports narrative in Detroit for several seasons now.

[dead breed]

The Detroit Red Wings are the best team in the NHL now....but for some reason they wont win the cup this year either.

[Knight]

while the latter gets you into Gisele Bundchen's pants.

Yeah I really wish I was Tom Brady right now. You know he's got one thing on his mind right now...grudge fuck.

[Misfit]

that was on today? :lol: i was playin kingdom hearts all day

[Aurone]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/nfl_experts/post/If-he-s-going-to-lose-Bill-Belichick-would-rath?urn=nfl,64971

My mom and I where wondering if anyone else thought Billy leaving early was sad and un-sporstman like. Seems there are.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

steelba I know u like it! :D, I think it fits u perfect.... after the month is up, I'll bet on somethin' else, so I can give u a chance to get me back.

[Max Payne]

that sore loser shit is just people AGAIN trying to shit on Bill.

he thought the game was over cause the clock ran to zero on the field, he then went to shake hands.

[réÐþÁ†µ]

other then belechick and pepper johnson, no one of this teams coaches know wtf there doing.

The one gripe I did have with the coaching was how they decided they thought they would call a play that had Hobbs one on one with Burress with the game on the line.

With routinely getting burned all season, you would think between him and Samuel, they would give help to Hobbs in a situation like that.

[réÐþÁ†µ]

Can't believe all the OLD sour grapes up in here when the Pats didn't even win...

People have been waiting to shit on them all season. They finally got their chance to shoot their mouths off. No different than the kind of regurgitation you see on an ESPN board loaded with trolls, haters.

That wont change and the same type of stuff will be seen next season. The sad thing is after the draft, all the offseason/free agent stuff. More than likely this organization will still be the most talked about spite the Giants winning the Superbowl.

If you ask me, I hope they go into next season under the radar much like the Colts did this season with nobody talking about them. Would be a nice change. Let ESPN drool over some other teams nads even though its pretty clear ESPN only does their job by covering them. They dont like them either, but they had to cover them.

[H78]

Say what you want about the missed opportunities, the bad coaching decisions, or whatever anyone wants to say about why the Patriots lost. The fact is the Patriots got beat by a better team last night.

The Giants' D-line was incredible and Eli did what he had to. As much as I was rootin' for the Pats, you have to respect a defensive game plan that called for one thing - 'attack.' As a football fan, you have to admire what that D-line did last night.

Good for Coughlin, who took a lot of unfair shit in the off season, good for Eli for separating his name from his brother's, and good for New York fans who definitely showed up in hoards for the game. Bad for Tiki Barber.

Pats lost, but ya know what, at least it was to a good team who deserved it and wanted it more.

G-Men beat the Cowboys, Packers and Patriots to win it all...they definitely deserve every bit of credit they get.

[thrEE6MAfia]

still cant believe Eli won a ring..

on a nother note..any one else suffering from last night???
i drank to much and ate wayyy to much...i woke up like at 5 am..and puked my fucjkin brains out..to muh grease..my stomach still hurts..im basicly done with food

[Joker]

I already miss watching Football,this season went by fast!
Nothing to look forward to now but the draft.

[Max Payne]

ok, lets make it pretty clear.

the giants are not a better team, lets say, instead of avoiding that sack, and the giants are in 4th and long, and eventually lose, now the pats win. are we saying the giants were a better team? no

the pats beat the rams in 01, but that doesnt make that pat team a better team then that ram team.

however, both those winning teams made the plays they needed to make, to make them the better team on that day.

the worst part about last night, was there were several times on that last drive where the game should of been over.

and i wont lie, i didnt think the officiating was that great either. on one matt light offside call, it was clear that he was drawn offside by the defender, or that fumble were the pats clearly came up with the ball and the replies showed it only for the giants to get the ball because he stole it under the crowd. usually thats just football, but when a reply clearly shows who ended up with the ball, you cant let that happen.

[toxicangel19]

that was on today? :lol: i was playin kingdom hearts all day



I played final fantasy 12

[GruesomeDuece]

ok, lets make it pretty clear.

the giants are not a better team, lets say, instead of avoiding that sack, and the giants are in 4th and long, and eventually lose, now the pats win. are we saying the giants were a better team? no

the pats beat the rams in 01, but that doesnt make that pat team a better team then that ram team.

however, both those winning teams made the plays they needed to make, to make them the better team on that day.

the worst part about last night, was there were several times on that last drive where the game should of been over.

and i wont lie, i didnt think the officiating was that great either. on one matt light offside call, it was clear that he was drawn offside by the defender, or that fumble were the pats clearly came up with the ball and the replies showed it only for the giants to get the ball because he stole it under the crowd. usually thats just football, but when a reply clearly shows who ended up with the ball, you cant let that happen.
:cry:

The officiating was pretty shitty on both sides Payne.

[Grendel]

Yeah I really wish I was Tom Brady right now. You know he's got one thing on his mind right now...grudge fuck.Hope she doesn't have too much walking to do, today.The Detroit Red Wings are the best team in the NHL now....but for some reason they wont win the cup this year either.Too early to say that, same as it's too early to say they're going to go all the way based on their current dominance. Won't know anything until/if the scoring dries up or the goalkeeping cools off.

[Revenant]

ok, lets make it pretty clear.

the giants are not a better team, lets say, instead of avoiding that sack, and the giants are in 4th and long, and eventually lose, now the pats win. are we saying the giants were a better team? no

the pats beat the rams in 01, but that doesnt make that pat team a better team then that ram team.

however, both those winning teams made the plays they needed to make, to make them the better team on that day.

the worst part about last night, was there were several times on that last drive where the game should of been over.

and i wont lie, i didnt think the officiating was that great either. on one matt light offside call, it was clear that he was drawn offside by the defender, or that fumble were the pats clearly came up with the ball and the replies showed it only for the giants to get the ball because he stole it under the crowd. usually thats just football, but when a reply clearly shows who ended up with the ball, you cant let that happen.

I believe Amhad Bradshaw had his hand under the ball so posession was not clear cut even after they hit the ground, and if we want to talk about officiating how about Rodney Harrison continuing to wrestle with Tyree on the ground after that amazing catch so he could waste time off the clock. Why do you think Steve Smith ran in there? trying to pull that cheap shot artist off his teammate.


As for the better team, well all that matters is who is the better team in the big show, and the better team was the one hoisting the Lombardi trophy this year.

[Revenant]

The Detroit Red Wings are the best team in the NHL now....but for some reason they wont win the cup this year either.

Yup good as they are they can't seem to make it past the first round, and for them now is the time to do it this year, because the Blue Jackets, the Blues, The Preds, and my Blackhawks are getting younger and better, while the Wings are getting older.

Very true, they haven't been able to win a SB without cheating. No video taping = no ring.

Hey Steelba where did you get the new sig? I like the new look!

[koolmike]

What a fuckin' game. You gotta see what it's like here in NYC. Everyone's dancing, singing, shouting out, "18-1!!!" and "Cheaters NEVER Win." :lol:

GIANTS played the game of their lives. It's games like this that remind me why I love this sport so much.

EM has shut up all doubters...that's for sure. I wouldn't doubt the mayor gives him the key to the city tomorrow after the parade.

I feel especially happy for Feagles...he's been around 20 years and finally is on a SB team.

Cheers to one of the most impressive defenses I have ever seen :coolbeer:

I hear that their gonna give a name to Eli's missed sack and amazing completion:

Eli's Escape or The Escape

Good times here in NY.

[réÐþÁ†µ]

What a fuckin' game. You gotta see what it's like here in NYC. Everyone's dancing, singing, shouting out, "18-1!!!" and "Cheaters NEVER Win."

Nice to hear.

Around here, its ghostown in beantown with afew Giants fans scattered around getting their kicks in. Work was like you had gone to a funeral.

Whats the route of the parade?

[koolmike]

Battery Park to City Hall = Hall of Heroes


(Hopefully one day I can attend a JETS" t-tape parade)

[H78]

Wow, I read a few articles today and with all due respect to the Giants' win...

Is it just me, or are the Patriots being more humble about being upset than the Giants are about winning?

Some serious motormouths on that Giants team, I guess. You'd think they would realize that they were the better team last night, but it isn't like they went out and pounded the Pats, like they're acting like they did.

It's OK - the lightning will likely be out of the bottle in 2009, and for the Pats, everyone knows they're not going anywhere.

Congrats, G-Men. Now pray you don't get a repeat SB in 2009, because ya'll are offering some fantastic bulletin board material.

Expected a little more class out of this team. It isn't like the Patriots gloated about their record...everything was media driven. They need to chill and just celebrate without acting like a bunch of unable-to-handle-winning-with-class clowns.

[koolmike]

Only you would have a negative thing to say about this Giant victory :dsp:

No one here or on the team felt they "pounded" the Pats. You wish they showed a lack of class so there would be something to make you feel better.

Shame on you.

Take the loss like a man.

Hof78 acting like a true Boston fan


:D

[Joker]

It will take more than Eli scoring 17 points for me to really have confidence in him.

The defensive line is who should get the key to the city,they held the Patriots to 14 points(their lowest total of the year),thats who won this game IMO.

[koolmike]

Agreed.

But "The Escape" is what people are going to remember forever.

[H78]

KMike:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-morningrush020408&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

I haven't ever seen that kind of sportsmanship from a Super Bowl winner.

They're more celebrating making the Pats 18-1 than they are winning a Super Bowl for the state of New York.

Again, congrats to them. They deserve their due credit - now they need to start acting like they can handle winning. They seem like a bunch of 10-year-olds in that article.

[koolmike]

Mike Silver is an asshole and can't be taken seriously.

What about the footage from Boston where fans were proudly displaying SB champions shirts before the game and the perfect record outerwear?

[H78]

Agreed.

But "The Escape" is what people are going to remember forever.

I'm really, really happy for Eli.

Now people will stop comparing the poor guy to his brother and start respecting him for being a good quarterback.

[H78]

You think he made those quotes up?

[réÐþÁ†µ]

Expected a little more class out of this team. It isn't like the Patriots gloated about their record...everything was media driven. They need to chill and just celebrate without acting like a bunch of unable-to-handle-winning-with-class assholes.

People have accused the Pats of being a classless organization for about 2-3 years now yet when other organizations act the same way, they get a free pass.

In other words, people are allowed to regurgitate shit about the Pats but when the door swings the other way, everyone is supposed to be mute.

Inevietably when you talk enough shit, somewhere in there your gonna get your end of the satisfaction which many people did last night. Just doesnt happen all the time. Now the majority of Pats fans can be arrogant but so are half the fans of other fanbases, its all relative.

I suppose in the end, the term 'classless' has become another overused word. Maybe every organization or players of the organization dont display some form of composure. Maybe these players are all just gloating over the moment. Maybe they arent, in the end its all relative.

[koolmike]

Again, congrats to them. They deserve their due credit - now they need to start acting like they can handle winning. They seem like a bunch of 10-year-olds in that article.

Should look to quote from more reliable sources.

[koolmike]

You think he made those quotes up?

He left out all the respctful things the GIANTS
organization had to say about NE.

[koolmike]

I'm really, really happy for Eli.

Now people will stop comparing the poor guy to his brother and start respecting him for being a good quarterback.


Would be nice.

[koolmike]

People have accused the Pats of being a classless organization for about 2-3 years now yet when other organizations act the same way, they get a free pass.

In other words, people are allowed to regurgitate shit about the Pats but when the door swings the other way, everyone is supposed to be mute.

Inevietably when you talk enough shit, somewhere in there your gonna get your end of the satisfaction which many people did last night. Just doesnt happen all the time. Now the majority of Pats fans can be arrogant but so are half the fans of other fanbases, its all relative.

I suppose in the end, the term 'classless' has become another overused word. Maybe every organization or players of the organization dont display some form of composure. Maybe these players are all just gloating over the moment. Maybe they arent, in the end its all relative.


Perfect.

[réÐþÁ†µ]

Most watched Superbowl ever.

97.5 million viewers.

2nd highest watched tv show.

[thrEE6MAfia]

whats the 1st??

[réÐþÁ†µ]

MASH Finale in 1983

106 million viewers

[Detective John Kimble]

Great day for sports.

Jags will be back though.

Early predictions on AFC and NFC playoff picture next year.

AFC

1. Jags (14-2)
2. Browns (12-4)
3. Pats (11-5)
4. Chargers (11-5)
5. Colts (10-6)
6. Jets (9-7)

NFC

1. Giants (16-0)
2. Packers (10-6)
3. Bucs (10-6)
4. Cardinals (9-7)
5. 49ers (8-8)
6 Cowboys (7-9)

AFC playoffs

Pats over Jets 30-14
Chargers over Colts 24-16

Pats over Browns 28-17
Jags over Chargers 34-13

Jags over Pats 55-14

NFC Playoffs

Cowboys over Bucs 20-10
49ers over Cardinals 21-14

Giants over Cowboys 45-17
49ers over Packers 24-20

Giants over 49ers 60-10

Superbowl 43

Jags over Giants 50-19

Garrard stats

25-35 450 yards 7 TDs 0 INT

Eli Manning stats

15-40 250 yards 2 TDs 6 INT

Jags take over.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

YES HE'S BACK!!! love those predictions lol....... NOT!

but yea Dark Joker... the season went so fast... its a sad day. now its the draft.

And yea Rev I thought steelba has a great SIG. :D

[manslaughter]

That game made my month.I'm so fucking stoked to see the pats go that far and then get beat in the bowl....fucking cheats.I know the players didn't really have a say so in cheating,but they definately benefited from it.The giants played a hell of a game,and straight up out-played the pats.The giants made a lot of mistakes on offence,but did work when they needed to.Their defence was on fire.Brady never really had time to throw a bomb down the field like they usually do at least once a game.Still one of the best games i've seen in a while.

[skybrick]

YES HE'S BACK!!! love those predictions lol....... NOT!

but yea Dark Joker... the season went so fast... its a sad day. now its the draft.

And yea Rev I thought steelba has a great SIG. :D

Should have been the nortorious pic of Bill Cower flawing his hands up in the air with all the confetti all around. That shot is still locked into my mind of that superbowl

[steelba]

ok, lets make it pretty clear.

the giants are not a better team.
Yes they are the better team, they dominated NE and exposed what was the biggest bust in NFL history. 18-0 loses to an NFC wildcard team, easily the biggest upset of all time. The Patriots had the better regular season and The Giants had the better post season.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

Should have been the nortorious pic of Bill Cower flawing his hands up in the air with all the confetti all around. That shot is still locked into my mind of that superbowl

u know, I saw that pic and almost picked it... but then I was like what do I want. I picture of a Steeler player happy that they won the superbowl, or a group of Seahawks sad cuz they lost the superbowl. It was tough. but I also didn't wanna be a complete dick 'bout it, so I wasn't gonna pick somethin' horrible. My first chioce was Stewart picture, but then I saw him say he didn't want it so I changed it.

[steelba]

I don't know if I could handle a Kordell Stuart pic. I never disliked the Stealers before, but I always hated Kordell. He really, really, really, sucked!

But i'm glad the Giants won, so I don't have to hear about NE on ESPN anymore.

[cmurdur]

I don't think I'm ever watching football again because of this goddam game.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

I don't know if I could handle a Kordell Stuart pic. I never disliked the Stealers before, but I always hated Kordell. He really, really, really, sucked!

But i'm glad the Giants won, so I don't have to hear about NE on ESPN anymore.

lol I used to be a big kordell fan, I even have one of his jerseys... and god damnit I re-read what u said and u still do that damn 'Stealers' lol u bastard. but yea u don't hear 'bout the NE goin' 19-0... but now all I hear is the Pats go 18-1.

But I'm so glad the Giants won, but now I gotta wait until next season... this damn season goes to fast.... what the fuck!

[thrEE6MAfia]

lol I used to be a big kordell fan, I even have one of his jerseys... and god damnit I re-read what u said and u still do that damn 'Stealers' lol u bastard. but yea u don't hear 'bout the NE goin' 19-0... but now all I hear is the Pats go 18-1.

But I'm so glad the Giants won, but now I gotta wait until next season... this damn season goes to fast.... what the fuck!



i agree..

shits way to quick..

[cmurdur]

don't worry. we've still got 1,000,000 hours of coverage until the draft!

[thrEE6MAfia]

summer is by far the worst time for sports..noting but Baseball..i fuckin hate baseball

[Grendel]

Yup good as they are they can't seem to make it past the first round, and for them now is the time to do it this year, because the Blue Jackets, the Blues, The Preds, and my Blackhawks are getting younger and better, while the Wings are getting older.Off topic, but I have to say: Huh?

Datsyuk, 29
Zetterberg, 27
Filppula, 23
Kronwall, 26
Lebda, 25
Hudler, 24

A lot of vets, sure, but the "old wings" knock isn't as true as it used to be. They've got young guys coming into their own right now and have shown a consistent ability to succeed in the salary cap era after years of free-wheeling spending.

This is no "the time is now" team.

[Grendel]

18-0 loses to an NFC wildcard team, easily the biggest upset of all time. A Wild card team...that they barely beat a month prior and was playing its best football of the year. The Vegas line beforehand was a hype-driven fantasy.

An upset, sure. Biggest of all time, not even close.

(That said, the better team did, indeed, win on Sunday).

[thrEE6MAfia]

Off topic, but I have to say: Huh?

Datsyuk, 29
Zetterberg, 27
Filppula, 23
Kronwall, 26
Lebda, 25
Hudler, 24

A lot of vets, sure, but the "old wings" knock isn't as true as it used to be. They've got young guys coming into their own right now and have shown a consistent ability to succeed in the salary cap era after years of free-wheeling spending.

This is no "the time is now" team.


:nod: fuckss ya

Wings are fuckin nuts..tickets to the games now are soo cheap too..
Zetterberg and Datsuk fuckin kill it..

[cmurdur]

summer is by far the worst time for sports..noting but Baseball..i fuckin hate baseball

:finger3:

[steelba]

Agreed with Kicker and 3six' the season did go by quickly. But there is the draft and preseason in 6 months so I can hang. I can't wait to see what happens with free agency and the draft. Plus there is still the pro bowl next week. Maybe the NFC will win that too :D

[IKickAssForTheLord]

Agreed with Kicker and 3six' the season did go by quickly. But there is the draft and preseason in 6 months so I can hang. I can't wait to see what happens with free agency and the draft. Plus there is still the pro bowl next week. Maybe the NFC will win that too :D

thats what I'm talkin' 'bout. for some reason no other sports excite me more than football. Yea I like Baseball and Basketball, but watchin' Football is totally different. I'll watch other sports but I'm lookin' forward to the draft and preseason. And yea def. can't wait to see what happens in the Free Agency department. I'll catch the Pro Bowl if I remember... I just wish Sean Taylor was alive and gonna be there so he can jack up another punter haha.

[thrEE6MAfia]

thats what I'm talkin' 'bout. for some reason no other sports excite me more than football. Yea I like Baseball and Basketball, but watchin' Football is totally different. I'll watch other sports but I'm lookin' forward to the draft and preseason. And yea def. can't wait to see what happens in the Free Agency department. I'll catch the Pro Bowl if I remember... I just wish Sean Taylor was alive and gonna be there so he can jack up another punter haha.

amen to that..just like the NBA allstar weekend, i always forget about the probowl..

offseason is always enterataing..so far though its been shitty, from a LIons fan vview point, KJs career is basicly over, they cut shaun rogers, fired mike martz, and then hired the O-Line coach(the lions O line is by far one of the worste in L..maybe in football) to replace him as the offensive cooridnator..:die:

[Max Payne]

Yes they are the better team, they dominated NE and exposed what was the biggest bust in NFL history. 18-0 loses to an NFC wildcard team, easily the biggest upset of all time. The Patriots had the better regular season and The Giants had the better post season.


The Patriots beat the Giants a month ago, so lets put it in perspective.

The Giants played better on the day it counted most, but it doesnt make them a better team. That is obvious.

The best team isnt always the team that wins, its the one that plays the best during that game, not just the players but also the coaching and the playcalls.

And the death of a dynasty?

These Giants are retards if they think that, the Pats will be the odds on favorite to win next year, while I bet the Giants strugle to make the playoffs again. The Pats are a bounced ball off Samuels hands, or a sack on Manning from being 4 time champs. People need to lay off with that crap.

also, highest rated SB, not a surprise. Giant fans will claim because of the NY market, which did play a part, but a undefeated season on the line, combined with New England and the people who always watch it, its not surprising at all.

[skybrick]

the Pats will be the odds on favorite to win next year, while I bet the Giants strugle to make the playoffs again.

I totally agree only if they sign a lot of checks. IE Moss and Samules

[Max Payne]

Gonna have to, the DB suck as it is.

I dont want people to think Im having sour grapes over this loss, I think its clear I handled it better then a few others here have over the years.

Just having the game in hand, only to let the other team drive 80 yards were the game should of been done on atleast two plays on that drive really makes it an awuful feeling.

Brady played bad compared to being Brady, and if the Pats won, he would of been the MVP, his numbers werent outstanding, and Welker did tie the SB record for catches, but Brady would of had another game winning drive in the SB and it would of sealed it for him, that sucks.

But I dont see anyone blaming Gisele for this, or the fact that Brady was dancing around NY in a boot when he should of been in Boston with the team.

He needs to own some of this like everyone else.

[Scaremonger]

also, highest rated SB, not a surprise. Giant fans will claim because of the NY market, which did play a part, but a undefeated season on the line, combined with New England and the people who always watch it, its not surprising at all.

My guess is a huge amount of it is due to a combination of hoping the Pats lose and seeing an underdog win, which can also be seperated as two things.

[Grendel]

Brady played bad compared to being Brady, and if the Pats won, he would of been the MVP, his numbers werent outstanding, and Welker did tie the SB record for catches, but Brady would of had another game winning drive in the SB and it would of sealed it for him, that sucks.

But I dont see anyone blaming Gisele for this, or the fact that Brady was dancing around NY in a boot when he should of been in Boston with the team.

He needs to own some of this like everyone else.I don't see Brady ducking responsibility.

I'll lose some serious respect for him if he starts pointing fingers...

[Max Payne]

he isnt. but clearly even though the pressure was there, he had a ton of missed balls, tons of floaters, or dives to the ground.

dont know what was wrong, but that is two games in a row. too bad, if they won that game, he would of been considered the best qb of all time at the end of his career.

[réÐþÁ†µ]

Brady wasnt to blame completely. Blame the coaching staff. Belichick was outcoached by Tom Coughlin and it showed. After it being obvious from the first couple of plays, the coaching staff should've realized playing a staightup passing game against that 4 man rush wasnt going to cut it. As a result, the Pats werent in rhythm all night long except for the last drive when it appeared the Giants front 4 finally started to get tired.

And Brady probably wouldnt have been the MVP. Wes Welker would probably have won making him the second WR in Pats history to win an MVP.

Anway, offseason wish list if your a Pat fan.

1. Draft a DB over 6 ft, too undersized in that secondary
2. Draft a LB, even if hes only going to see limited reps on Defense
3. Cut your losses, Samuel is probably gone and while I would like them to keep Stallworth because hes still explosive with the ball in his hands. They'll probably cut ties with him and work with Moss. As well as take your chances in developing Chad Jackson into a decent WR while giving Kelley Washington more reps.

4. Seau will probably come back, Bruschi maybe but one of these guys needs limited reps. The LB core really got hurt when Colvin went down because the depth went with it and it gave guys like Bruschi/Seau too many reps.

5. Draft an impact pass rusher, whether its DE, DT or LB. Their pass rush is so inept and it showed all year. They never could generate pressure with just their front 4. They always played safe defenses and blitzed rarely because they didnt want to expose anyone in the secondary.

6. RB depth will probably still be good between Faulk, Maroney and a returning Sammy Morris who really was their powerback. His loss was probably the most forgotten loss early in the season but it hurt. The power running game went with it. Maroney and Faulk are good explosive runners but Morris was that power game that was sorely lacking for a long time.

7. Worse comes to worse, in the secondary. Move Meriweather to CB, let Samuel go and have Sanders as your other starter.

[koolmike]

*wonders if the JETS will make it to the SB in my lifetime*

[Joker]

Offseason wish list for a Vikings fan

Two out of these four could be a real possibility *crosses fingers and toes*
Chad Johnson,Larry Fitzgerald,Jared Allen,Jason Taylor

Through the Draft~

DE
Vernon Gholston
or
Chris Long


S
Kenny Philips,hope he falls to the second round,I wouldn’t waste a first.


QB
Matt Ryan

WR
DeSean Jackson
or
Malcom Kelly

[thrEE6MAfia]

*wonders if the JETS will make it to the SB in my lifetime*

i wonder if ill ever see the Lions in the SB in myy lifetime

[Knight]

i wonder if ill ever see the Lions in the SB in myy lifetime

You won't even see the Lions in the playoffs in your lifetime.

[Joker]

Agreed.

But "The Escape" is what people are going to remember forever.

I do agree,great play!

But I do have to ask when is in the grasp actually in the grasp?
The NFL has set it up to protect the QB's with this rule and defenders know it,often times letting up rather than hitting the QB,after getting a hold of him,and avoiding a penalty and fine.

[H78]

You won't even see the Lions in the playoffs in your lifetime.

Charlie Batch has already brought the Lions to the promise land! (well, the playoffs)

C'mon, give a hero credit when he deserves his due!

[Knight]

:lol:

I remember those times, but I doubt threesix was old enough to remember.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

Offseason wish list for a Vikings fan

Two out of these four could be a real possibility *crosses fingers and toes*
Chad Johnson,Larry Fitzgerald,Jared Allen,Jason Taylor

Through the Draft~

DE
Vernon Gholston
or
Chris Long


S
Kenny Philips,hope he falls to the second round,I wouldn’t waste a first.


QB
Matt Ryan

WR
DeSean Jackson
or
Malcom Kelly


out of those rookies, the only one that will fall that far will be kenny phillips. Which is a great safety. Well those WR's could also fall to. but the rest will be taken early.

[cmurdur]

I wonder if the Falcons will ever reach nine wins again in my lifetime.

[steelba]

Tom Brady and Randy Moss decided they weren't gonna show up for the pro bowl. More pouting from the cheaters...

[manslaughter]

Tom Brady and Randy Moss decided they weren't gonna show up for the pro bowl. More pouting from the cheaters...

That doesn't surprise me.

[steelba]

They're just acting like their coach who ran crying off the field before the game ended.

[Knight]

Who gives a shit about the pro bowl? Most useless sporting event ever.

Well outside hockey and soccer.

[Max Payne]

steelba is still jelous of a SB losing team, quite possibly the saddest thing going around here.

if you make accusations, you should at the very least know what your talking about.

Brady said the Monday following the SD win that he wasnt going to the pro bowl, Moss I have no idea about, but it has been speculated that he is hurt.

Ellis Hobb is going into surgery for groin and hernia pulls, and this is the first anyone has known about any injuries, so when it comes to Pat players, we simply dont know whats happening with them.

Everyone knows, that everyone wants the pro bowl invite, and no one wants to play in it.

[Joker]

out of those rookies, the only one that will fall that far will be kenny phillips. Which is a great safety. Well those WR's could also fall to. but the rest will be taken early.

Most likely,but you never know.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

Most likely,but you never know.

that is true, never know.

[Revenant]

Off topic, but I have to say: Huh?

Datsyuk, 29
Zetterberg, 27
Filppula, 23
Kronwall, 26
Lebda, 25
Hudler, 24

A lot of vets, sure, but the "old wings" knock isn't as true as it used to be. They've got young guys coming into their own right now and have shown a consistent ability to succeed in the salary cap era after years of free-wheeling spending.

This is no "the time is now" team.

You have to excuse a bitter hawks fan for being a little bit exagerative, we in chicago have been saying the wings are gonna hit the wall for some time now. What I meant was that at the moment I believe that the Wings still have a softer division. I don't consider STL, NSH, the BJ's, or my own hawks as solid teams, I'm not saying the Wings are going to go 0-82 anytime soon, I'm just saying that the rest of the division is starting to get good talent as well.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

hockey sucks... why u gotta talk 'bout it in the NFL thread.

BOOOO HOCKEY

[Revenant]

i wonder if ill ever see the Lions in the SB in myy lifetime

About as much chance as the bears have of drafting a great quarterback..

[IKickAssForTheLord]

I'm glad I don't have to die without seein' the Steelers not winnin' one :D

[Revenant]

hockey sucks... why u gotta talk 'bout it in the NFL thread.

BOOOO HOCKEY

Oh c'mon it won't kill you to hear a little hockey talk. I'll contribute a little football talk too, I think that the Pats still get the better 1st round pick of the two is pretty stupid and pretty much negates any true penalty.

[Revenant]

I'm glad I don't have to die without seein' the Steelers not winnin' one :D

sorry we didn't get some of those great questionable calls in the bears superbowl last year, we can't all be lucky enough to get a big boost from the zebras who call the games.:D

[thrEE6MAfia]

:lol:

I remember those times, but I doubt threesix was old enough to remember.

i clearly said SB as in Super Bowl..not playoffs:dsp:

[Joker]

I'm glad I don't have to die without seein' the Steelers not winnin' one :D

Not so sure I'll be that lucky :mecry:

[IKickAssForTheLord]

ooooooh rev rev rev... I was gonna be nice and talk a lil' hockey but then I saw what u said 2nd...hey maybe if the bears hanged on to the ball in the SB maybe they would have gottin' some calls.

[Revenant]

ooooooh rev rev rev... I was gonna be nice and talk a lil' hockey but then I saw what u said 2nd...hey maybe if the bears hanged on to the ball in the SB maybe they would have gottin' some calls.

Rexy was too busy being sexy, you can't blame him, he can't help himself, it's a curse really.

frankly even the refs couldn't have helped the bears win that game.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

Rexy was too busy being sexy, you can't blame him, he can't help himself, it's a curse really.

frankly even the refs couldn't have helped the bears win that game.

lol true... wow what a diffence from the 1st 4 games... geez

[Revenant]

lol true... wow what a diffence from the 1st 4 games... geez

it's too bad the bears got rid of jones too, because we could have fallen back more on the running game this year, but unfortunately we have benson, who runs like a drunken moose.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

yea I bet the regret that.

[steelba]

sorry we didn't get some of those great questionable calls in the bears superbowl last year, we can't all be lucky enough to get a big boost from the zebras who call the games.:D
Yeah if your not Peyton Manning or the Pittsburgh Stealers the Refs wont gift you wins.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

... u just take a long look at ur sig steelba. REMEMBER THAT.

[steelba]

Please, i'll take a long look at Bill Leavy and always remember Al Michaels and John Maddens commentary during the game.

[Revenant]

Please, i'll take a long look at Bill Leavy and always remember Al Michaels and John Maddens commentary during the game.

that sig is great though, Alexander is priceless, I bet that's the same expression a lot of hawks fans have when they remember his huge contract..

[steelba]

It sucks that it wasn't a fair game, Alexander just sucks.


Edit: and the organization said if Alexander wont restructure his contract he's gone :D

[Revenant]

It sucks that it wasn't a fair game, Alexander just sucks.


Edit: and the organization said if Alexander wont restructure his contract he's gone :D

are they just gonna dump him then?

[steelba]

They'll only cut him if he refuses to restructure his over priced contract. Which i'm sure he'll agree to.

In other news Jim Mora Jr. will be taking over as head coach after Holmgren retires in 09.

[steelba]

Pro Bowl is flippin sweet' 27-21
Got back from the gym and made some chips and bean dip, to go with beer and the Pro Bowl :drunks:

[IKickAssForTheLord]

yea its a good pro bowl finally...

Just here wit booze and weed, don't get much better.

[Max Payne]

yea if you dont like teams that cant play defense but by rule isnt even allowed to play defense.

its not football, its soft practice

[steelba]

Well the poor sports decided not to show so thats a plus.

[Joker]

Nice to see A.P. scorin touchdowns again.:D

[steelba]

NFC dominates the Probowl, no real surprise there after dominating the SB.
AP gets Pro Bowl MVP.

[Max Payne]

Remember when you said the AFC champ game was the real SB cause who ever it was was gonna win the SB?

Then when the Giants mopped the Pats you came in here talking shit about how no one said the NFC could win and that the Giants brought it home or whatever the hell it was you were talking about?

That was awesome, cause you were just contridicting your self.

[Max Payne]

I just went ahead and looked it up so I dont have to have a back and forth sea saw with Steelba over what he did or didn't say..... This is AFC Champ week..


Nobody cares.

The SB is this weekend, either SD or NE is the NFL CHAMP!!
We'll know who be the XLII winner after Sunday.

NE...

Um NO!
Just like last years AFC Championship game, the winner of that is again the winner of the SB. You don't ageree this year because your Lord Favre has a shot at losing to the best team ever. Quit a feat I may add.


You're on Kicker' :coolbeer:

The SB/AFC championship needs to hurry up and start :mad:


Then there is this after the Pats lost the SB

He played better than Brady and now we can puta squash on the NFC can't fuck with the AFC talk too. Giants stepped it up and played on hell of a game :drunks:
Fucking awesome.



So, no one but you was talking about how the NFC couldnt handle the AFC.

Not to mention, 2 of the 3 AFC QB were replacements, and when Manning was in there him and Gonzalez were single handidly taking care of business on the NFC.

Some consistancy and facts from you might make you more worthy of a debate.

Score 1 for the new jason bitches

[IKickAssForTheLord]

he's callin' u out.

[cmurdur]

fight, fight, fight, fight!

[steelba]

I could easily go back and find dozens of posts on how NE would win from Max too, but we were both wrong. NE choked out and went from being the best team ever to the biggest bust ever. Has any other undefeated team lost the championship game in the NFL? Have the lost it to a wildcard team? I doubt it.

But max aint shit, so who gives a fuck...

[manslaughter]

http://www.break.com/index/overconfident-tom-brady.html

[Knight]

Has any other undefeated team lost the championship game in the NFL?

The 1934 Chicago Bears.

[steelba]

did they lose to a wildcard?

[Max Payne]

thats funny, considfering the wild card team is as good as any, this isnt college basketball where most teams dont stand a chance.

but your wrong man, i said the pats would win, i didnt say they would win because the nfc was weak and then turned around and said people are full of shit about the nfc being weak because they won.

small differance there dont you think?

score another for me, i win.

[Revenant]

The 1934 Chicago Bears.

well gotta be remembered somehow..


score another for me, i win.

damn steelba, I think Max Payne just took the lead in the Who Gives A Shit Bowl...you best get your head in the game!

[Knight]

damn steelba, I think Max Payne just took the lead in the Who Gives A Shit Bowl

Nope. The NFC won that game yesterday.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

oooooooooooooooooooooooh

[Max Payne]

well gotta be remembered somehow..



damn steelba, I think Max Payne just took the lead in the Who Gives A Shit Bowl...you best get your head in the game!

wow, your STILL following me around?

gotta get a restraining order before this gets scary

[0 0 7]

Looks like Chad will probably be sent packing. Hes a good reciever, but I think his rep of being of top tier reciever took afew hits. Especially with his act with the probowl.

Cincy is in a state of chaos. Afew years ago they go from being a potential up and coming team to the predictable slouches they've been throughout most of their history.

I think this will be the last year for Marvin at the helm in 08 because hes had only two decent seasons in his tenure with a roster full of players getting busted regularly.

Superbowl was an interesting. I dont think I've ever seen Brady on his back or hit as many times as he was in that game. MVP of that game should've been the Giants front 4. I aint no Pats fan but theres no denying without that pressure without the need to blitz, the Pats offense probably doesnt end the game with 14 points.

Pats aint going nowhere, too much talent on that squad for them to go away into the sunset. I hope they lose in the playoffs again next season and keep the current 3 year tradition going but I still respect what they can do.

AFC North will be a tougher division next year. I hope Cincy can pull their heads outta their asses cause both the Steelers and the Browns will probably be good.

[Revenant]

wow, your STILL following me around?

gotta get a restraining order before this gets scary

yup, because far be it that I just happened to go in this thread and see you just being stupid.

[Max Payne]

but im always stupid, time to move on.

we both share something in commen, we lost super bowls to the manning brothers.

granted one team played better then the other, even if it was shit compared to there normal selfs.

[dead breed]

thats funny, considfering the wild card team is as good as any, this isnt college basketball where most teams dont stand a chance.

but your wrong man, i said the pats would win, i didnt say they would win because the nfc was weak and then turned around and said people are full of shit about the nfc being weak because they won.

small differance there dont you think?

score another for me, i win.

:lol: Nothing like praising yourself up.....

[Max Payne]

i am the best thats for sure

[Joker]

Max,a lot of talk about the Pats only signing either Moss or Samuel.
Just wondering which of the two you Pats fans would rather have back.

[Revenant]

I have a feeling some are still a little pissed at Samuel for not making that potential pick near the end of the game.

[H78]

I have a feeling some are still a little pissed at Samuel for not making that potential pick near the end of the game.

It was a relatively easy INT. When you want an $80 million contract, you better be catching those.

[steelba]

I hope we can re-sign Trufant if not Samuels would be nice. He's a good CB imo. Can't believe it's gonna be like $70-$80mil to sign a good corner :2far: