Barack Obama Feb 4th Speech

[badgonegood]

I got to attend Baracks last speech yesterday. It was very hard trying to get a camera into the place.

Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PzPzl7LWhE

Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Y3TCFBLXM

Part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thYKZyVAExE

[steelba]

He wont win, got the wrong paint job.

[Driden]

Not only is being black against the guy he's also Muslim. Has terrorist names, and his 'plan' is not reachable but a dream.

[Searcher]

None of their plans are reachable because they don't intend to live up to them in the first place.
America is and has been ready for a black chief, we've only been waiting for the right one.
But most importantly, America doesn't want another conservative in the White House. The only chance the repubs have against Clinton or Obama is to try a liberal leaning republican.

[Grendel]

Not only is being black against the guy he's also Muslim. Has terrorist names, and his 'plan' is not reachable but a dream.Except for the small problem that A.) he's not Muslim, and B.) people who'd vote against his middle name are the sort of folks who weren't going to vote for him anyway.The only chance the repubs have against Clinton or Obama is to try a liberal leaning republican.Not so sure of that. McCain--hardly a liberal--is getting thrashed by pundits and the AM radio brigade for not being conservative enough. If the base is completely left cold by the nominee, I'm not sure the so-called "undecideds and independents" are enough to overcome the apathy and the lack of turnout it generates.

[Luris Blear]

At this point there is some buzz from the Limbaugh camp that a real Democrat would be better than the likes of McCain (or other center-leaning Republicans). This way at least "the other party" can mess things up worse.

I also find it interesting that - like 2004 - the Democrats are voting in typically right-wing ways and the angry side of the crowd is blaming the Republicans. To be real, a lot of the fiscal right would rather learn to pronounce "President Barak Obama" than watch their paychecks get comandeered by President Rodham.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

He wont win, got the wrong paint job.

:spit:

[Grendel]

At this point there is some buzz from the Limbaugh camp that a real Democrat would be better than the likes of McCain (or other center-leaning Republicans). This way at least "the other party" can mess things up worse.Not sure how much of it is prayers for failure.CNN) — In the latest sign that a conservative backlash is starting to build against John McCain, conservative commentator Ann Coulter said Thursday she is prepared to vote for Hillary Clinton over the Arizona senator in a general election match up.

Speaking on Fox's "Hannity and Colmes," Coulter took aim at the GOP frontrunner, and suggested he was little more than a Republican in name only.

"If you are looking at substance rather than if there is an R or a D after his name, manifestly, if he's our candidate, than Hillary is going to be our girl, because she's more conservative than he is," Coulter said. "I think she would be stronger on the war on terrorism."

Coulter took aim at McCain's positions — particularly his fervent anti-torture stance — and said he and Clinton differ little on the issues. Coulter also said she is prepared to campaign on Clinton's behalf should McCain win the party's nomination.

"John McCain is not only bad for Republicanism, which he definitely is — he is bad for the country," she said.

Coulter is the latest high profile conservative to express dismay with McCain's surging candidacy. Talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh said Wednesday McCain's rise was the product of a 'fractured' conservative base and an "uninspiring" GOP presidential field.

[Luris Blear]

Thing is, the contempt for McCain is not new to this primary - or even to election years.

McCain has been a major player in a lot of activities which alienated a great deal of his own base. The McCain/Feingold Election Finance Reform deal alone brought some thunder down on him around 2004. (As I recall correctly, it began making many liberals more irritable as right wing groups began making use of his new laws closer to the election as well.)

His involvement in the Gang of 14 really did not sit well with many conservatives either.

This is offhand, after working all day (literally) and little sleep. Overall, he seems to average 2-3 really big middle fingers to the partisan right every year.

My own view of him is less awful, but still not a very confident one. (At least he's upbeat when he's pandering.) I am not entirely saying that I agree with the notion that he's a liberal in disguise or that it would be better to have a Democrat screw the country up. In this case, I'm more trying to be the "inside man" with right-leaning tendencies and maybe clear a few ideas up.

[Grendel]

Thing is, the contempt for McCain is not new to this primary - or even to election years.

McCain has been a major player in a lot of activities which alienated a great deal of his own base.Really goes to show how narrow things have gotten for "the base." I can't begin to count how many times I've seen him called a RINO, a "liberal democrat at heart," etc.

And with a record like this, nonetheless:Voted with Republican Party 87.3% of 165 votes. (Sep 2007)
Voted YES on confirming Samuel Alito as Supreme Court Justice. (Jan 2006)
Voted YES on confirming John Roberts for Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. (Sep 2005)

Supports repealing Roe v. Wade. (May 2007)
Voted YES on barring HHS grants to organizations that perform abortions. (Oct 2007)
Voted YES on maintaining ban on Military Base Abortions. (Jun 2000)
Voted NO on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)

Voted YES on recommending Constitutional ban on flag desecration. (Jun 2006)
Voted NO on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation. (Jun 2000 & 2002)
Voted YES on prohibiting same-sex marriage. (Sep 1996)

Voted NO on $5B for grants to local educational agencies. (Oct 2005)
Voted NO on shifting $11B from corporate tax loopholes to education. (Mar 2005)
Voted NO on funding smaller classes instead of private tutors. (May 2001)
Voted NO on funding student testing instead of private tutors. (May 2001)
Voted NO on spending $448B of tax cut on education & debt reduction. (Apr 2001)
Voted YES on $75M for abstinence education. (Jul 1996)

Voted NO on limiting soldiers' deployment to 12 months. (Jul 2007)
Voted NO on preserving habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees. (Sep 2006)
Voted NO on requiring CIA reports on detainees & interrogation methods. (Sep 2006)
Voted NO on restricting business with entities linked to terrorism. (Jul 2005)
Voted NO on restoring $565M for states' and ports' first responders. (Mar 2005)
Voted NO on adopting the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty. (Oct 1999)

Voted NO on restricting employer interference in union organizing. (Jun 2007)
Voted YES on using the Social Security Surplus to fund tax reductions. (Jul 1999)
We need personal savings accounts. (Oct 2007)

Voting against Bush cuts then for them: not a mistake. (Jan 2008)
Voted YES on raising estate tax exemption to $5 million. (Mar 2007)
Voted YES on supporting permanence of estate tax cuts. (Aug 2006)
Voted YES on permanently repealing the `death tax`. (Jun 2006)

Congress has no authority to cut off funds for Iraqi use. (Jan 2007)
Voted NO on redeploying non-essential US troops out of Iraq in 9 months. (Dec 2007)
Voted NO on redeploying troops out of Iraq by July 2007. (Jun 2006)
Voted NO on investigating contract awards in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Nov 2005)

http://www.ontheissues.org/John_McCain.htmPretty amusing that toeing the party line 90% of the time gets you branded as being on the other side.

[Luris Blear]

That holds true about a lot of politicians. McCain's 10% away from the base is often in more heated situations, where wandering away from the base will put his name back in the news.

No, it's not often. But seriously - Grendel - if he had voted against the base on hate crimes versus sexual orientation and told Feingold where to shove it then there would be a considerably different picture being painted.

In short, the issues he has dissented on were considerably more valued than how he votes on the day to day cash grab in Washington. When it really came time to fight for the cause in a number of heated issues, McCain found a way to benefit by letting his base down.

And again, I am not saying I agree. I'm just trying to send in some reports from the other side. You know, seeing things from the other point of view for the sake of tolerance. Limbaugh in particular has carried a grudge for many years over these high-profile dissensions, and this has echoed from time to time among the other right wing mouthpieces.