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dead breed
02-23-2008, 03:11 PM
- The McMahons have been rumored to be interested in starting a mixed martial arts promotion. Shane McMahon in particular is said to be a big fan of the sport and the McMahon name has come up a number of times when various promotions have been up for sale (including PRIDE) or starting up.

Billionaire entrepreneur Mark Cuban has spoken before about working with the McMahons in the MMA world. Cuban owns "HDNet", a high-definition TV channel that features a lot of MMA shows. He is trying to put together the heavyweight fight that everyone wants to see later this year - Randy Couture vs. Fedor Emelianenko.

In a recent interview with The Edmonton Sun, Cuban was asked:

Are you trying to form an MMA company to rival the UFC? Are you thinking of involving the McMahon family from the WWE?

His answer was: "Absolutely. We are looking to partner where we can, do our own promotions where it makes sense. We think the future is built around the fighters and their personalities. No one else has this focus and partnership approach. We think it's a winner."

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This would be interesting, but I don't think it would compete with the UFC.

http://www.impactwrestling.com/Content.aspx?ID=16785

Misfit
02-23-2008, 04:26 PM
another XFL situation? maybe?

Highwayman
02-23-2008, 05:16 PM
Oh. Boy.

http://wednesdaynight.org/2003/01/homer-xfl2.png

thrEE6MAfia
02-23-2008, 05:18 PM
lol

dead breed
02-23-2008, 05:26 PM
another XFL situation? maybe?

yeah i was thinking the same thing. But it would still be interesting to see what happens.

Imagine if their first PPV was Couture vs Fedor hahaha Would be awesome.

réÐþÁ†µ
02-23-2008, 06:12 PM
Would be tough to run two feds.

But if he managed to pull that off. He would have the best of both worlds. The epic 'fake' fueds that WWE provides and the 4 minute hypefests that makeup most of that kind of MMA/UFC stuff.

Joker
02-23-2008, 06:59 PM
I like the idea.

réÐþÁ†µ
02-23-2008, 07:36 PM
Add to that the marketability machine that both Cuban and McMahon could put together.

IF it was a successful venture. They would cripple the opponents.

TNA, UFC, MMA, whatever lame idea Hogan and Bischoff are trying to put together.

Max Payne
02-23-2008, 08:45 PM
Add to that the marketability machine that both Cuban and McMahon could put together.

IF it was a successful venture. They would cripple the opponents.

TNA, UFC, MMA, whatever lame idea Hogan and Bischoff are trying to put together.

If Vince had half the entertainment value Bischoff had, WWE would be worth watching.

In terms of story, Eric Bischoff rules all.

réÐþÁ†µ
02-23-2008, 08:50 PM
Vince had it when the WWF and WCW were competing. Add to that, Vince knew how to control Russo, the mastermind behind the Attitude Era. Whereas when Russo was joined with Bischoff in WCW, they sank.

Granted all hindsight, Vince's two biggest mistakes were buying WCW and trying to create his own football league.

Max Payne
02-23-2008, 09:37 PM
Bischoff was basically fired when Russo came in, they brought back Bischoff when Russo had these crazy ass ideas that never worked and the company sanked mostly on his watch, Bischoff is responsible for not changing formula and all that but he truly is a creative genius, and a great on air personallity.

Vince did have is in the attitude era, too bad it was mostly by mistake and in desperation to avoid being folded. He pushes bums all the time, cant see how crappy the stories are, and how boring his roster is. He isn't half the genius Bischoff is.

In terms of buying WCW, the only mistake there is by buying all the worth while companies, there was no major on air competition, thus his company started to sink. It was a great business decision, I think he got it for a million bucks? When in the peak, WCW was worth over 100 mil.

Eric Bischoff is a great man, he swallowed his pride, worked for WWE and let Vince hulmililate him just for entertainment, Vinces ego is monsterous and quite frankly he can be a dick. The attitude and puppy thing isnt working no more because its stale.

If Bischoff got control over WWE or created his own wrestling company or somehow got the WCW name, Id start watching wrestling again cause I know his product will be better then what WWE is throwing down our faces right now.

Hell TNA is better, Id rather listen to Nash comedy then watch Orton, Cena, Edge and them fake punks pretend they know how to wrestle with little to no personallity, (ecept edge he has personallity) But Christian was a way better mic skilled talent and I actually like him as a wrestler.

réÐþÁ†µ
02-23-2008, 10:31 PM
Bischoff was a genious and he knew how to put together a good show. Nevertheless he never could stop the Immortal one from holding down other talent and hence when their bread and butter NWO got stale. They kept retorting it with Hogan over and over just like Vince is doing now with the pranks and skanks along with lifeless guys like Cena, Orton, etc.

The difference when Vince and Russo put things together. They created....

Austin 3:16, Foley, The Rock, HHH, DX, The Nation, The Corperation, The Ministry, the McMahon/Helmsley Era, etc. So many different things that brought them to the top and kept them there accident or not. Austin and Rock werent accidents and probably the two reasons alone why WCW had no chance once they kept retorting Hogan and couldnt produce anything new.

Max Payne
02-24-2008, 12:14 AM
Ya there is no debate on who created more talent, but you cant blame Bischoff for wanting to stay with Hogan/nWo, that ruled my childhood and really got me in wrestling. Made everyone involved millions.

Vince or whoever in WWF were far better at creating talent.

But if were talking strictly story, entertainment, Bischoff takes the cake, he should be hired by WWE to write the storylines, Id tune in for that shit.

Hogan/Rock really did bring WWE over the top and win it, but your also right in knowing that WCW lost it them selfs, shameless maine events (Sting/Hogan with year of hype, terrible match) or even Hogan/Goldberg on Nitro just to bring attention back to them.

But ya, nWo ran its corse, no doubt the first few years it was my favorite stable ever, just from a kids point of view I hated those fucking guys, WCW never won, and I do mean never. So when they did win, it was awesome, random people showing up, new members joining nWo. So much better to watch, so no doubt if they just let it run its corse, let people like DDP get there legit shots, they might still be around.

So to bring this whole entire thing back to relevance, Vince can not run a entertaining business, atleast anymore and I dont think this idea is going to work.

dead breed
02-24-2008, 02:59 PM
nWo 4 life. Best group ever imo.

I would love to see Bischoff write a few story lines, he can create controversy.

Darkgod
02-24-2008, 04:40 PM
Um... Mcmahon never created any of those, he said Ok when he was propositioned about them. Mcmahon is not a writer, nor does he create "characters" most come in with their gimmick, and Mcmahon either names them or lets them do what they want. When Austin came in he was the friggen ring master... then he started to do the ston cold gimmick ( which was named by his english wife saying " Drink your tea before it becomes stone cold). Mcmahon is nothing... and before you think IM saying Bisch is the man your wrong as well. Bich didn't invent the NWO, that was an idea that him, Hall and Nash all came up with together. And it wasnt suposed to be a group that big, and hogan wasnt suposed to be in it either.

Best booker IMO is definitly Dangerously and Rhodes. Best at making people, as well as selling the whole picture.

With that being said this will fail because Vince wont try to keep it seperate of wwe. He'll do cross promotion, as well as have storylines in it like XFL had. " He hate me" uGH....

Max Payne
02-24-2008, 04:55 PM
Um... Mcmahon never created any of those, he said Ok when he was propositioned about them. Mcmahon is not a writer, nor does he create "characters" most come in with their gimmick, and Mcmahon either names them or lets them do what they want. When Austin came in he was the friggen ring master... then he started to do the ston cold gimmick ( which was named by his english wife saying " Drink your tea before it becomes stone cold). Mcmahon is nothing... and before you think IM saying Bisch is the man your wrong as well. Bich didn't invent the NWO, that was an idea that him, Hall and Nash all came up with together. And it wasnt suposed to be a group that big, and hogan wasnt suposed to be in it either.

Best booker IMO is definitly Dangerously and Rhodes. Best at making people, as well as selling the whole picture.

With that being said this will fail because Vince wont try to keep it seperate of wwe. He'll do cross promotion, as well as have storylines in it like XFL had. " He hate me" uGH....

So in a long round about way, you just said Bischoff is better then Vince.

Bischoff did come up with the idea of the nWo, Sting I guess was suppose to be the original leader if Hogan passed on it.

With everything comes a bit of luck, it wasnt all Bischoffs ideas, but he started alot of it. Like a PPV per month, not one but two shows a week with Nitro/Thunder, 3 hour programming.

Not everything worked, but Id pick him over Vince to lead my company any day of the week, and for someone (Vince) who almost folded a company over 30 years old, he has quite the ego, you would think he be a little more down to earth about his image or place in the business.

And for all the flack Bischoff has taken for being Hogans right hand man, he did create the wrestling popularity of the 90's, he did turn a broken company into a multi million dollar organization (though it was still pretty much a broken company) and he did it faster then the fall.

And for all of that, he was able to put his ego in check and work for WWE cause ultimately he wants good entertainment, after money of corse.

But you can credit Hall for coming up with Crow Sting, best idea ever really.

Darkgod
02-24-2008, 05:04 PM
A little mistaken, WWE did PPV's 1 a month first. They did the In your Houses' be tween Main PPV. The tv show 2x a week wasnt a Bish doing, it was a Turner doing. He saw the ratings and said... hey I can make more money, lets do 2 a week. Also I would put Vince above Bish for one thing.... MONEY. Bich offered huge contracts to people who didnt even wrestle, he also made dumb deals with outside companies to help wcw, but which cost them money in the long run. He is the reason why WCW sold out. They did it because theyre banks where dry because of his wasteful spending. That being said, he was the booker who made wcw rule for 2 years, and made wwe step up. Too bad there is no one around who can do that now.

dead breed
02-24-2008, 05:46 PM
Michael Hayes is the best writer currently working in the wrestling business. Anyone agree?

Max Payne
02-24-2008, 06:01 PM
Wrestling has never been as bad as it is now, so who cares who the best writer is.

TNA is better for viewing plesure cause Nash is a comedian and I much prefer to watch that then Orton or Cena in there weekly bull crap segments that change once every 4 months, right now it's Orton, 4 months from now it will be Cena, then Orton, then Cena.

People shit on HHH for always having the belt, or using his place in the company to promote him self, but over the last few years we have seen just how bad it can get when entertaining/good wrestlers aren't the face of the company.

Id much rather watch HBK who is way past his prime yet still a very good wrestler with much more charisma and talent then just about anyone in WWE.

dead breed
02-24-2008, 06:03 PM
Wrestling is better now then it was back in 2002 imo

Having Mayweather involved in a story line is awesome and the last PPV was a classic.

dead breed
02-24-2008, 06:05 PM
WWE is better then TNA imo

TNA dont know how to use most of their wrestlers and every third PPV has a tag team match as the main event.

Tag Team matches as the main event of a PPV usually equal lower buying rates.

Max Payne
02-24-2008, 06:29 PM
Ya I'd agree there booking is bad, and who is behind that? I think Russo is writing for them.

But no question in my mind that they have the better roster.

There more about the wrestling aspect of the business and less about story.

But I cant stand taped shows, just feels differnt, and I hate there ring, I hate how they stay in Florida for there shows.

They could become the new WCW if they had the money too.

Darkgod
02-24-2008, 08:34 PM
HHH is awesome. As is HBK, I just cant stand him. Also Orton is good, Cena is god awful.

FreddyKruger316
02-25-2008, 11:00 AM
But I cant stand taped shows, just feels differnt, and I hate there ring, I hate how they stay in Florida for there shows.

Also, that one arena that they do all their shows in is too damn small. I think it has a maximum capacity of like 900 or so. Watching wrestling shows in big arenas that seat thousands of people like the WWE just gives a better atmosphere. I know that TNA isn't anywhere near as big as the WWE yet as far as fanbase goes, and they probably wouldn't be able to fill the big arenas, but hopefully they will eventually.

Highwayman
02-25-2008, 11:08 AM
TNA is fun to watch but it just doesn't make me come back for more. The wrestling is great, I dig the 6 sided ring, the girls are hot but there's something lacking.

Also I'd like to see WWE lose the entrance ramp, I enjoy it so much more when everythings ground level.

dead breed
02-25-2008, 03:02 PM
Ya I'd agree there booking is bad, and who is behind that? I think Russo is writing for them.

But no question in my mind that they have the better roster.

There more about the wrestling aspect of the business and less about story.

But I cant stand taped shows, just feels differnt, and I hate there ring, I hate how they stay in Florida for there shows.

They could become the new WCW if they had the money too.

Jeff Jarrett is one of the people behind TNA's booking. I dont know who else.

Darkgod
02-25-2008, 04:55 PM
Dixie Carter, Jeff Jarret, Dutch Mantel and Terry Taylor are the main bookers right now.

Highwayman
02-25-2008, 07:29 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NBxbP-AmWYA

Calling it as they see it? I think not.... lol, at least TNA are trying.

dead breed
02-25-2008, 11:05 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NBxbP-AmWYA

Calling it as they see it? I think not.... lol, at least TNA are trying.

hahaha funny shit

Darkgod
02-27-2008, 11:07 AM
That is classic

hackerslacker
02-27-2008, 02:59 PM
Dude that Tits n Ass clip is classic