Halloween 2

[FrighT MasteR]

What a waste.

http://www.upcominghorrormovies.com/movies/halloween2.php

[KING]

I SHOT HIM SIX TIMES!!

[Gatsu18]

Well piss out my ass..... Let's kill the series even more!

[CMax]

Michael, Jesus Christ!

[woodenheart]

Why can't they just leave this alone.

[strtfghtr]

ugh well at least my hopes wont be up this time...the last one was a devastating blow to my fandom of Halloween and Rob Zombie's writing talent at the same time.

[koolmike]

Can't be any worse than the original Halloween 2 which IMO sucked balls.

[ReD]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Really this was Dimensions chance to show some testicular fortitude and go with Laurie as the killer in the next film and start fresh.

Instead they gotta recycle Myers. The only question will be when movie comes along is will the rediculous explanation package as to why Myers survived/escaped, got away, etc that the old series had with it in almost every entry and really got whacky as the series went its course will return.

[3/6]

:die:

[cmurdur]

I'm glad Zombie's got nothing to do with it. Shows he just wanted one movie and that's all. And it'll be something new, because Dimension can't remake Halloween 2, so that means no hospital.

[ReD]

I'm glad Zombie's got nothing to do with it. Shows he just wanted one movie and that's all. And it'll be something new, because Dimension can't remake Halloween 2, so that means no hospital.

Good point.

Halloween 2 is owned by Universal I believe.

[Grendel]

I'm in the "didn't hate the remake" camp; wanted to see what Zombie had in him and thought it was an interesting experiment.

I chalk this up to the Akkad family wanting to bankroll other projects and using this as the ATM...

[Wally The Cannibal]

Simply gross...so Michael probably switched out of the costume ala Halloween:H20 and wasn't killed...woot.

[damiansrules666]

I'm in the "didn't hate the remake" camp; wanted to see what Zombie had in him and thought it was an interesting experiment.

I chalk this up to the Akkad family wanting to bankroll other projects and using this as the ATM...

Agree 100% Akkad family have other projects? Honestly think they are stuck on this one. Like a damn broken record, over and over and over.....

[da Gay]

Rob Zombie's Halloween was horrible.

[skybrick]

Its a sad day for me reading a remake to Halloween 2, series has gone to the toilet and I hope someone will revive the old series. I did see the remake in theaters but you can keep my word that I will not participate in this one.

[3/6]

not gonna lie, i enjoyed a majority of zombies "vision", aside from the way he escapes(the 2 guards commit rape on the one bitch) and the ending...but there is really no point for this

[MadMac9]

Please leave these movies alone...please!!!

[Shreds_of_Flesh]

I SHOT HIM SIX TIMES!!

Who did we have this argument with again? :mhehe:

[ReD]

I pretty much laid out my stance about the film earlier in the thread.

Nevertheless, if the choice were one of these three.

1. Continue this new take on the franchise
2. Continue with a sequel off the old franchise
3. RIP The boogeyman for good

The general consensus including myself would take option 3 but seeing as how that isn't happening as long as an Akkad of any kind is in charge along with the opportunity to export the character upon a new generation of faceless teens.

I'll take option one FAR and AWAY over option two.

People can shit on Rob's version all they want but as far as im concerned. Dimension has no business continuing the old series based off the absolute worst shit fest of a film that was Halloween Resurrection. It was the worst in the franchise to date complete with the fabricated dumb ass endings/explanations that sorta plagued the series.

Still even with that said, it looks like Dimension is repeating the same shit all over again with this new series. As I said earlier in the thread. Making Laurie the killer would take some balls for the suits in Dimension and it would be something refreshing for the franchise since Halloween 3 but ultimately Myers puts the butts in the seats.

Which is sort of why I think in the end. We can all critique and strip down this remake era of film making all we want but at the end of it all. It wouldn't surprise me if it were to become the norm.

15 Years from now it would'nt surprise me in the least if we had two or three new takes on the Boogeyman, the Dream Demon and Mr. Voorhees.

All three are proven commodities and the strategy will be. Mold them out as something new and refreshing. Milk them for a while until its a dead deal. Bury them for a while then resurrecting them under a new era.

See it coming.

[Dr. Phibes]

I SHOT HIM SIX TIMES!!

"You don't know what death is..."

[KING]

Who did we have this argument with again? :mhehe:

cmurder :mhehe:

[cmurdur]

cmurder :mhehe:

Look, in the beginning of Halloween 2, there were 7 shots fired at close range. If Loomis could hit him six times at that range, why couldn't he hit him 7 times?! :mad:

[KING]

Yes cmurder, we all believe you now :itsok:

[cmurdur]

Yes cmurder, we all believe you now :itsok:

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

[Shreds_of_Flesh]

6 TIMES!!!!!!!!!!! :cussing:

[cmurdur]

6 TIMES!!!!!!!!!!! :cussing:

F YOU! :cussing:

[UzumakiW]

:lol:

[smokey]

I did not mind the remake. I aint getting over excited about this one though.

[Rust In Peace]

Eh if I have nothing better to do the friday it comes out I guess I'll see it, because I'm in the minority that actually like Rob Zombies version.

[Wally The Cannibal]

Someone mentioned earlier the Akkad's having other projects. What the fuck else do they ever do other than Halloween milking?

[ZION]

Like or not it's gonna get made and released, I say hurry up and get it over with and start on a new fresh script for a Halloween 3 remake and gives us what we have been missing in between parts 2-4. What's good about remaking a part 3 is somthing we have have NEVER seen before, a new story. There could be some potential here. :nod: Fuck, get Carpenter involved!!

[ALMOST HUMAN]

Shock is reporting that --- God helps us --- Zombie may be returning for the sequel. Here's their story: http://shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=8674

[greywolf]

One Word: Why?

We all know the story, the first one was good enough... move on.

[Gatsu18]

I just heard on the radio that it has been confirmed that Zombie is returning to direct. But who knows how much we can trust the Mano Brothers.

[Lemmywinks]

Look, in the beginning of Halloween 2, there were 7 shots fired at close range. If Loomis could hit him six times at that range, why couldn't he hit him 7 times?! :mad:

Its just a continuation miistake. In the first he shot him six times in the second the same but 7 shots were fired. Not to mention Loomis carries a six shooter.

[buffyslayedme717]

Yup, just been confirmed...Zombie is writing and directing this one. Not sure how to feel...Zombie's writing is just not made for a Halloween movie, it's too white trash. I do think that he has some talent as a director however. Devil's Rejects was by and far better than House of 1K Corpses so hopefully Zombie can pull off something different than what he gave us with the remake. For the love of God, Rob, please let someone go through your script and edit out 90% of the "fucks" that I'm sure it will be riddled with. Also...Bring back Danielle Harris!

[ZION]

So Halloweenmovies.com made it official?

[buffyslayedme717]

Halloweenmovies.com as well as Variety

[strtfghtr]

Also...Bring back Danielle Harris!

Danielle Harris....:eyebrow2::drooling::sex:

[Mr.Gore Maker]

Well this could be good give it a chance i mean, shit you know your probally going to watch it anyways.You have to understand that some directors need time to think of ideas, but they also want to make money and if that means jumping on a remake, well i guess they'll do it. Besides that i'll go see it, hope it does alright. I'm ready for the new jason movie though.
Jus mmy opinion, take it or do what ever w/it, i could give a rats...
Peace Out

[Lemmywinks]

Well I imagine Rob is coming up with new ideas to display his wifes booty.Not that im complaining about that.

[countess_bathory]

I'm a huge rob zombie fan, both musically and directorially (even though he never comes to england) and i cant wait for this!!!

[rawdogg20]

I liked the ending of the remake, I don't see where they will go with this one.

[Chief Falling Rock]

I can't wait to see what Rob does with a sequal. Halloween 2 is one of my favorite sequals. It'll be interesting to see if he goes in a completely different direction.

[Darkgod]

It'll be interesting to see how he destroys this one.

[thorn_man]

I see a Friday the 13th pt. 5 coming...

[3/6]

I see a Friday the 13th pt. 5 coming...

:scratch:

[Moar Brains]

So, Rob Zombie is continuing the shitfest. Oh my god. This is where I put my foot down. This is out of his element, he's better at making up hillbilly killing stories with incest and shit. But, then he goes off to ruin what seems to be the whole friggin series. GREAT!!! You do know why there are a handful of classics being re-made right now like My Bloody Valentine, Friday The 13th, etc, etc.. Because directors are desperately trying to bank on the shitfest Zombie made. Congragulations america! This generation is apparently the generation of shitty horror classic re-makes. God damn, why can't it be the 70's again!

[thorn_man]

:scratch:

In Friday the 13th pt. 5, the killer was the character "Ralph", dressed up like Jason. Jason, the human being, was killed off in the previous sequel due to the relentless whacking of a machete to the head by Tommy.

(Halloween '07 spoilers)

At the end of Zombie's Halloween, Laurie relentlessly shoots Michael in the head, leading the audience to believe he is dead, especially since there was no "last spook" to show Michael alive. Therefore, I believe this is a plausible scenario for H2, because I'll doubt they'll be lame enough to repeat Resurrection.

So when I said "I see a Friday the 13th pt. 5 coming" I was merely stating I saw a scenario similar to the Scooby-Doo complex showing up in H2, where a person who is not Michael Myers uses his legend/costume to do some of their own killing.

[damiansrules666]

Yep here we go again. Didn't Rob Zombie say he would have nothing to do with a sequel? Wave enough cash in their faces and you can get a person to do most anything I guess. Hopefully this sequel is superior than the first much like he did with Devils Rejects as Buffy17 also stated, but honestly I'm not holding my breath.

[3/6]

In Friday the 13th pt. 5, the killer was the character "Ralph", dressed up like Jason. Jason, the human being, was killed off in the previous sequel due to the relentless whacking of a machete to the head by Tommy.



ya i know...i didnt understand what u met...i get it now:bigthumbup:

[cmurdur]

I've heard that the story would be a bulk of the movie taking place a year later when Laurie goes to a Halloween party.

[glamorilla]

i didn't like the remake.

i thought it was effective having mike meyers come from a seemingly normal suburban family and more so never seeing him speak...at all.

the only thing i can think of as far as a dirsction for a possible sequal would be to go in the opposite direction of the first and throw all concepts of reality out the window...i.e. start off having meyers being resurrected by the thorn cult to explain why he cant be hurt and take it from there.

[CMax]

They should bring back Joe Grizzly and let him go after Michael.

[Dboyle]

I am a die hard Halloween and Carpenter fan, and when I saw the Halloween remake in theaters, at first I despised it. I thought it disregarded everything that made the original scary, the mood, mystery and plot. After renting it to watch it over at home, it grew on me. I am alright with an H2 remake, but I hope it follows the original guidelines (taking off right from where the first left off).

[H78]

Rob Zombie, leave this poor franchise alone.

Halloween (1978) has endured enough abuse the last 30 years.

[koolmike]

Agreed. F RZ

[koolmike]

Danielle Harris....:eyebrow2::drooling::sex:


Check this out:


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[woodenheart]

Glad Rob is taking this on.

[rjmyr29]

I laughed when I first heard of this... wasn't it Rob Zombie himself who had said he wasn't going to make any more of these movies?

Eh, I'll probably see it anyway, it's still Halloween!:nod:

[skybrick]

Rob believed that he was not going to make another Halloween film until talks came up of another one. I think Rob was flustered that other directors wanted to make a sequel of his film, so he grabbed the reigns and took over. I have last all faith in the series and wish that only Akkad have lived.

[koolmike]

I have last all faith in the series and wish that only Akkad have lived.


May want to make sure your spellcheck is working :D

[skybrick]

Touche. I actually did use spell check but since last is a word it didn't pick it up. Ill have to re-read my post.

[Darkgod]

Ugh... the remake sucked... this will probally be more drivel.

[Godfatha]

If he [Zombie] can stop making every god damn aspect of his movies 'red-neck white-trash', it would go a long way towards buying some interest from me. It doesn't endear me to the characters at all. If it's suppose to be a 'statement' he's failed three times in a row at getting it across.

With the whole history aspect of Michael out of the way though, I can only hope this sequel doesn't feel like it has multiple personalities (low rent drama or underdeveloped slasher) and gets to the slasher plotline much quicker. I'll wait for DVD again either way.

[levil666]

If he [Zombie] can stop making every god damn aspect of his movies 'red-neck white-trash', it would go a long way towards buying some interest from me. It doesn't endear me to the characters at all. If it's suppose to be a 'statement' he's failed three times in a row at getting it across.

With the whole history aspect of Michael out of the way though, I can only hope this sequel doesn't feel like it has multiple personalities (low rent drama or underdeveloped slasher) and gets to the slasher plotline much quicker. I'll wait for DVD again either way.

I felt that the "white trash" aspect of Michaels upbringing was a good twist. Granted the original premise of an innocent boy being disturbed enough for some reason to kill his sister was twisted, don't get me wrong, truly disturbing, but Zombie gave it a twist of realism. Many of the serial killer from the seventies (which Zombie tries to encapsulate in his film) came from disturbed, trashy, abusive upbringings. Manson, for instance, was the son of a truck stop prostitute. Just a general example there, as there were many others that stemmed from that type of upbringing as well.
I was a bit confused when you said you had hoped for it to get to the slasher plotline much quicker, since there was a decent amount of killing within the first half hour of Michaels backstory. However, it really wasn't slashing, but more on the level of methodical serial killing. Zombie captured a much more realistic approach to the film that Carpenter was lacking (except for the size of Michael.) Zombie also paid many a homage to Carpenter in his film by keeping many shots and scenes (which Zombie amped up.) Also, Zombie kept songs featured in the original, but placed them differently (i.e. Don't Fear the Reaper.)
It sucks that his film goes so under appreciated, but I feel many of his critics may view the film in a new light if they were to watch the original, and then watch Zombies Halloween right after.

[Mr.Gore Maker]

Yeah im going to see this for sure.:thumbup3:

[Godfatha]

I felt that the "white trash" aspect of Michaels upbringing was a good twist. Granted the original premise of an innocent boy being disturbed enough for some reason to kill his sister was twisted, don't get me wrong, truly disturbing, but Zombie gave it a twist of realism. Many of the serial killer from the seventies (which Zombie tries to encapsulate in his film) came from disturbed, trashy, abusive upbringings. Manson, for instance, was the son of a truck stop prostitute. Just a general example there, as there were many others that stemmed from that type of upbringing as well.
I was a bit confused when you said you had hoped for it to get to the slasher plotline much quicker, since there was a decent amount of killing within the first half hour of Michaels backstory. However, it really wasn't slashing, but more on the level of methodical serial killing. Zombie captured a much more realistic approach to the film that Carpenter was lacking (except for the size of Michael.) Zombie also paid many a homage to Carpenter in his film by keeping many shots and scenes (which Zombie amped up.) Also, Zombie kept songs featured in the original, but placed them differently (i.e. Don't Fear the Reaper.)
It sucks that his film goes so under appreciated, but I feel many of his critics may view the film in a new light if they were to watch the original, and then watch Zombies Halloween right after.

I like the 'innocent boy' premise more what can I say. I find it more disturbing than giving the killer an obvious motive, which making him an abused child to redneck parents does. I also never looked at the original 2 Halloweens as being about Michael so much as Laurie. I know everyone's probably going ":lol:" at that comment, but Zombie's Laurie just didn't feel as well developed to me because he focused more on Michael so I really didn't sympathize with her or her friends.

The music and shots I'm fine with, it just seemed that the 'backstory' took up more time than I thought it needed. This again comes back to me not needing 'motives' for Michael to be effectively scary. And since his motives/background have already been set out in the first, the second can discuss them without having to directly show them. Only time will tell.

[ZION]

Im sure FrighT has this up somewhere but here's the "new" poster... http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/953/953143/h2-20090210034424153_640w.jpg

[koolmike]

:sleep2:

[BooBerry]

Meh.

[koolmike]

Looks like Russell Crowe.

[ZION]

:sleep2:

:sotired:

[koolmike]

The movie poster, not the post :coolbeer:

[koolmike]

Thought that was Mickey Rourke for a second. (The Wrestler :D)

[ZION]

The movie poster, not the post :coolbeer:

I know and I agree. :nod:

[BiggNewt]

Looks like the old WCW wrestler Vampyro (sp?)

[snapicus]

Thought that was Mickey Rourke for a second. (The Wrestler :D)

:lol2:

[H78]

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[koolmike]

:lol2:

:D

[Titanosaurus]

I'm probably gonna go see this no matter what. Saw the first, gotta see the second. :D

[ReD]

I don't think going back to the hospital setting would work. While the original Halloween 2 was a solid continuation of the original in some areas. The biggest flaw of the film was the hospital itself being deserted.

Going into a remake sequel presumably with another deserted hospital would be a mistake even though it seems they aren't going in that direction. By the same token having him walk into a fully loaded hospital and wipe everyone out would be kind of silly.

[Godfatha]

I don't think going back to the hospital setting would work. While the original Halloween 2 was a solid continuation of the original in some areas. The biggest flaw of the film was the hospital itself being deserted.

Going into a remake sequel presumably with another deserted hospital would be a mistake even though it seems they aren't going in that direction. By the same token having him walk into a fully loaded hospital and wipe everyone out would be kind of silly.

It may be a set piece, but something tells me Zombie won't focus the whole story around a hospital.

[glamorilla]

i wasn't the biggest fan of the remake. it had a few interesting moments but overall lacked the (for lack of a better word) elegance of the original.

while the remake was set firmly in "reality" if the series is going to continue i'd like to see the sequal throw that word out the window and give us something thats just so over the top it makes our jaws drop.

[BiggNewt]

No way in hell will I support Rob Zombie being attached to another Halloween film, you won't get my money this time, sellout.

[Late For Reality]

Is Scout-Taylor Compton in this?

[ALMOST HUMAN]

First Look at a MASKED Michael Myers...

http://iseedead.com/showpost.php?p=370315&postcount=439

[zenith]

[QUOTE=réÐþÁ†µ;793389]I don't think going back to the hospital setting would work. While the original Halloween 2 was a solid continuation of the original in some areas. The biggest flaw of the film was the hospital itself being deserted.
QUOTE]

No, no, no, Sir.

The reason Halloween 2 was never as good as the original halloween was because the original was about HALLOWEEN. Michael in a hospitol will never be as good as michael on the street stalking people in his mask, and he's allowed to do it once a year, on HALLOWEEN. There's no PRESENCE in the hospitol.

Zombie's second installment on halloween will suck, however, just because zombie happens to be an idiot.

[Cyanide Christ]

i actually can't wait for this film to come out, I love Micheal Myers, and The reamke was awsome.

[ZION]

http://movies.ign.com/dor/objects/14303225/h2/videos/hall2_zombie_sdcc09_072909.html

Zombie video interview about H2 and his thoughts on returning for part III.

**sorry if this video has been posted already**

[zenith]

I would complain more about rob zombie, but it wouldn't make a difference...

[devilman33]

I Liked the halloween movies, After 8 was done I didin't want to see them again. I thought 8 was the worst of them all. But watching Rob Zombies Halloween I started to like them again, I am interested in to see what Rob Zombie is going to do with the series an what way he is going with them

[Darkgod]

zombies was almost as bad as the later films in the seroies

[Revenant]

Will see this at some point i'm sure, but after his first Halloween film I'm not expecting much or anything spectacular, the first was pretty mediocre, nothing stood out, but who knows, maybe zombie will surprise us.

[Lemmywinks]

Will see this at some point i'm sure, but after his first Halloween film I'm not expecting much or anything spectacular, the first was pretty mediocre, nothing stood out, but who knows, maybe zombie will surprise us.

He can surprise us by reforming White Zombie and stop directing.

[Darkgod]

I personally dont mind his other films, but Halloween blew

[Lemmywinks]

Well I will admit Zombies Halloween I didn't mind(does it compare to Carpenters? Hell no). House of a thousand corpses was awful but I did enjoy Devils Rejects. Personally I thing Robby has seen Wes Cravens Last House on the Left way too much because he loves to rip it off and in his world of horror everybody on the villain side is a white trash hillbilly.

[fceurich]

can't wait to see it

[Revenant]

He can surprise us by reforming White Zombie and stop directing.

what if he meets at the middle and stops doing both.

[Get Some]

i think it looks good actually but i wont expect much seeing as i thought the same about the 1st and that one wasnt very good

[BooBerry]

i think it looks good actually but i wont expect much seeing as i thought the same about the 1st and that one wasnt very good

I kind of have the same feelings. Trailer makes it look alright but I haven't really liked any of RZ's stuff so far.

[Chief Falling Rock]

I think its pretty retarded that the Halloween theme is not in this movie. Rob Zombie said it would be "to distracting" for people. WTF Rob. Its a movie about MICHAEL MYERS running around in his MICHAEL MYERS mask killing people. I doubt the theme would distract people considering its a movie about MICHEAL MYERS! ugh. Still hopeful.....but ugh.

[scarletsimple]

To be honest I think it looks more polished than the first one, but I wont see it. The first one was the only movie I have ever walked out of in my entire life, I'm not wasting my time on this piece of hack crap.

Make originals Rob!

[woodenheart]

I can't wait to see it!! :celebrate:

[ZION]

Rob was on The Howard Stern show this morning and was promoting H2, something I didnt know was the script is completely brand new. I thought it was gonna be another "re-imagining" but according to Rob its a fresh new script that doesnt follow the original Halloween 2 script. Now im actually curious about this flick and the story.

[HEKTIK15]

ya...so....:suicide:

[binksawsfan]

well guys & gals just 7 more days till we all can go and see the horror movie!!

halloween 2 i am ready to see this movie!!

[mrk]

I thoroughly enjoyed the first Halloween remake. Hopefully Rob Zombie makes this sequel as good, if not better!

[woodenheart]

:celebrate: :rocker: :budsdrink: Rob can do no wrong. :heart:

[skybrick]

dont you mean
Rob cant do anything right.

These last two movies of his is a bigger slap in the face to the franchise then H20 and Resurrection.

[Chief Falling Rock]

I still think this'll do better than Final Destination this weekend. I'll be seeing Halloween first thats for sure.

[BigFatOgre]

:celebrate: :rocker: :budsdrink: Rob can do no wrong. :heart:
NOt sure i'd go that far. I really didn't like House of 1000 corpses. But i give him some space because Devil's Rejects was an awsome movie and i absolutely loved his vision of Halloween.
I'm really looking forward to H2, especially knowing that it's not a rehash of the original H2.

[Bludy_Ace]

I cant beleive,the last one was not what i thought it would be,and now the remake of the second(f*cking crap) next thing u know, all of the Halloween movies will be remake(and be crappy as f***) in the furture, just to make money. the old halloween rule and ALL REMAKES OF Halloween SHOULD DIE !!

[gorecunt]

the original halloween2 was lame. its not going to take much for zombie to do a better job.

[Sutter Kane]

I'm not Cised for H2 and most of Zombies' films have been watchable but full of hack shit that you wouldn't expect from someone as prolific as RZ. Here is a guy with incredible vision for the artistic, evident through his album art and the tacky shit that hangs all of the scenes of his movies like a haunted Ruby Tuesday's. After the last Halloween you kinda start to notice the lack of a plot in any of his movies. It's just people getting killed in between scenes of trippy shit and it starts to wear thin when he is the public face of horror today. People in the mainstream hold him up as a groundbreaking director when he clearly has a lot to learn about writing a good script.

[koolmike]

F Rob Zombie.

Everything he has done (musically and films) post White Zombie is mediocre at best.

[BigFatOgre]

HATERS!!!
How is there no plot in H1? It goes through Mike's childhood to show a little bit about the makeup of his psychology. Watch the movie again, I think you had your eyes closed.
As far as H2 goes - still not sure about the whole Myers dream sequencing thing, but i'm gonna give a chance because his movies rock (except H1000Cs, that sorta sucked hairy dog nads).

[arnez]

Rob Zombie. First off, he is for sure a better film maker then a musician.

House of 1000 Corpses - It was his first and it wasnt bad at all.
The Devil's Rejects - Great movie, true classic!
Halloween - Big disappointment, but had some good scenes.
Halloween II - Lower hopes this time, but I will give it a chance or two.

[Bockus]

I just saw an advanced screening here in Quebec. This definitely will not convince the haters. I liked the first one, H2 I have to say, was a big disappointment. Not as bad movie but certain characters were not exploited to their full potential and the ending is anti-climatic at it's best - which is not always a bad thing but kind of let me down in this case. I do think the broken mask is an awesome look BTW.

[The Tall Man]

I liked the first one, H2 I have to say, was a big disappointment. Not as bad movie but certain characters were not exploited to their full potential and the ending is anti-climatic at it's best - which is not always a bad thing but kind of let me down in this case. I do think the broken mask is an awesome look BTW.

I just got back from seeing and I, with my lowered expectations, thought it was alright. I really liked that Brad Dourif had a bigger role in this he did a great job. I would not say it was a big disappointment, I really thought it moved along a lot faster than the first. The whole horse thing was kinda gay though but the deaths were cool and the way they explore the connection between Laurie and Michael was interesting. Loomis pissed me off he was just a greedy prick in it, he was a waste in the film. All in all I would give it a 7/10, not a masterpiece but entertaining

[Bockus]

I just got back from seeing and I, with my lowered expectations, thought it was alright. I really liked that Brad Dourif had a bigger role in this he did a great job. I would not say it was a big disappointment, I really thought it moved along a lot faster than the first. The whole horse thing was kinda gay though but the deaths were cool and the way they explore the connection between Laurie and Michael was interesting. Loomis pissed me off he was just a greedy prick in it, he was a waste in the film. All in all I would give it a 7/10, not a masterpiece but entertaining

Looms and Annie were pretty much the two characters I was referring too when I meant that certain of them did not reach their full potential. like I said it wa snot a bad movie but it will definatly not improve anybody's opinion on rob zombie if they did jot like his films in the first place. To me the horse was a pretty good metephor that was badly exploited. I had this feeling watching this that it had so much potential to be better, a few rewrites would have done in good IMO.

[choptop2]

Didn't bother with the first remake and won't bother with this one.

[binksawsfan]

well i going to see it tonight ! i thinks it will be ok!!!

[Thef13GUY]

ALL HAIL ROB ZOMBIE.....!!!!!!!!!!

[FrighT MasteR]

:no:

[3/6]

:suicide:

[The Tall Man]

ALL HAIL ROB ZOMBIE.....!!!!!!!!!!

Stop making it sound like he is Clive Barker or something, He's good but not a god-like filmmaker you think he is

[FrighT MasteR]

Eli Roth and Rob Zombie are two of these new-age horror filmmakers that focus less on coming up with something original and capitalize on old horror material and all the young horror noobz eat it up :dsp:

[The Tall Man]

Eli Roth and Rob Zombie are two of these new-age horror filmmakers that focus less on coming up with something original and capitalize on old horror material and all the young horror noobz eat it up :dsp:

Eli Roth has not remade anything and at least Hostel I & II were his own ideas

[DMHead777]

Eli Roth has not remade anything and at least Hostel I & II were his own ideas

Along with Cabin Fever. I thought they were all really well done. Eli Roth should not be lumped in with Zombie.

[FrighT MasteR]

Eli Roth has not remade anything and at least Hostel I & II were his own ideas

Just because he hasn't remade anything doesn't mean he has original ideas. Hostel is indeed an interesting concept, but he brought nothing new to the genre that us vets haven't already seen before. All Eli is doing is glorifying gore for the mainstream audience, which isn't a bad thing, but it's nothing new for us either.

[3/6]

Eli iz sweet :rockin:
hostel 2 was a disappointment, but im a big fan of Cabin Fever and Hostel. IMO he is light years ahead of RZ punk ass


Thanksgiving will be bad ass :rockin:

[FrighT MasteR]

Thanksgiving is another example of Eli capitalizing on the past success of horror. My point is that Eli and Rob are just using past horror to popularize themselves for the modern audience. Eli is slightly more creative than Rob, but still neither really offer anything new or original for the genre, which is why I would personally lump the two together.

[BigFatOgre]

I like em both. But you're right - none of it is really new. But i like what they do with it.

[ReD]

Just got back from this.

To put it simple the only real thing I liked about it was the end because the end offered hope for something perhaps different with the series.

The rest of it was more or less filthy garbage.

- Intense but redundant kills
- Loomis is a different character in this series and im not sure it was the right decision even if it was a different idea
- Way too much of Sheri

There's more but for now that's all there is to say on it. There were some things about the first I liked and disliked but this movie outside of the ending is pretty hackasorous rex.

2/10

[steelba]

damn knew this would suck, 2 is really low :starefreak:

[3/6]

Thanksgiving is another example of Eli capitalizing on the past success of horror.

true dat. Eli knows horror fans want to see movies more similar to some of the classic horror titles. pretty much all hes delivering. Gore, nudity, campy fun. Cant hate on that.


H2 - 2/10 :lol2:

movie didnt look as abd as the 1st..guess i was wrong :mhehe:

maybe ill check it once it leaks to the net.

[Lemmywinks]

Sherris voice is so piercing it hurts my ears. I'm taking a wild guess that she shows her ass? It's not a Rob Zombie movie unless she shows her ass.

[ReD]

Fucking ungodly boring, uninspired trash characters that I could kind of stomach in the first but in this it almost seems like it was amplified.

The first film for me had two distinct portions of the movie whereas this piece of filth is all over the place.

[steelba]

Sherris voice is so piercing it hurts my ears. I'm taking a wild guess that she shows her ass? It's not a Rob Zombie movie unless she shows her ass.
It's not a Rob Zombie movie unless it's watered down, redundant crap.

[FrighT MasteR]

So what's up with that F'n horse :stare:

[ReD]

The White Horse :straightface:


He never actually rides the horse but it serves as connection between adult Micheal, his mom and yes young Micheal and all 3 constantly appear together in bafoonaerrficly cheesy fashion.

[Lemmywinks]

It's not a Rob Zombie movie unless it's watered down, redundant crap.

Well yeah that too just stating the obvious.

[3/6]

so no horse rapping :mad:

[steelba]

Well yeah that too just stating the obvious.
:hi5:

[Lemmywinks]

:hi5:

:coolbeer:This movie probably isn't worth sneaking into.

[The Tall Man]

I seem to be the only Halloween fan that liked it, ya it had it's flaws but it was still better than any other pg-13 jap remake or hot chick with a ghost problem flick. I will go out and support any Myers flick long before I go see those other stupid "horror" movies. I know that your going to say "H2 being better than those movies isn't saying much" but in this case I feel it was genuinely good and miles ahead of the competition

[Chief Falling Rock]

wow, what a big dissapointment. Now I'm not one of the haters. I really liked the first movie. People keep calling this a remake of the first Halloween 2. Its not that at all. Its its own movie, but having said that he would have been better off remaking the first part 2. I was so looking forward to this because I dug the first one so much. But this one just annoyed me.

The screen shook so much during parts of the movie my head was spinning. Some of the kills you couldn't even see because of it. I didn't hate the fact Michael had his mask off some of the movie, but it didn't make sense to me that he kept taking his mask off and then putting it back on cuz he didn't do that in the first one. And the visions....god I don't even wanna get started on this. Michaels mother dressed all in white with a big white horse......riiiiiight. I understood what RZ was trying to do here, but leave your artsy stuff for another movie. You dont do that stuff in a Michael Myers flick. I guess it was Rob trying to convince himself he wasn't making a slasher movie, but he was. I kept wanting to say "oh hey Pamela...I mean Deborah! sorry!" Any excuse to stick his wife in the movie I guess.

There were all these dreamy flickering colors all throughout the movie that just got on my damn nerves. I still think Scout is a good Lorie Strode, shes very convincing at acting terrified. But for cryin outloud how many dreams did she have in that movie? She just kept waking up after a bad dream. so stupid. the first 15 minutes or so of the movie are GREAT. Then it just goes off into left field into willy wonka land and just started to suck. I really really wanted to like this movie, but I just couldn't convince myself what I was watching was good. And Loomis? He was the only negative thing about the first one for me, because it felt like his character served no purpose. And he is even less needed in this movie. Theres no point to him @ all. The acting in this movie was good, but that doesn't save a movie.

Like I said. I'm not a hater. I'm not one of those people that hated the first one the second it was announced and never gave it a chance. I don't go around saying the first one had no plot when it obviously did. Now I LOVE the original Halloween but people who think it had more plot than the remake are really really kidding themselves. I do think Rob Zombie can make good movies, and I have faith he'll make something good in the future. But this movie was a bunch of shaky camera scenes, a bunch of bright dreamy flickering colors, it had a ripoff of Jasons mother and oh yeah, we can't forget the infamouse white horse. That white horse is gonna go down in internet history. Mark my words. Don't waste your money on this flick.

[Vincenzo Incendio]

The first 20 minutes or so of this movie was good. It was really promising. I was thinking Zombie might have fucked around and made one of the best slasher flicks of this decade.

Then it turned boring.

Then it went off the deep end.

In the end, I thought it sucked, horribly.

Rob Zombie needs to stop casting his wife. The novelty is officially dead.

[Vincenzo Incendio]

movie didnt look as abd as the 1st..guess i was wrong :mhehe:


The first RZH is much better than this turd.

[Vincenzo Incendio]

BTW, I think Rob Zombie has some talent as a director, he just doesn't need to be writing his own scripts. It's trite nonsense.

[FrighT MasteR]

I think he should just stick to music videos :negative:

[steelba]

I think he should just stick to music videos :negative:
agreed wit da Fright.
1 out of 4 films is an awful good to horrendous ratio.

[RIP]

H2 was friggin sweet!

[Lemmywinks]

H2 was friggin sweet!

Seriously? Were you on any drugs?

[The Tall Man]

H2 was friggin sweet!

finally someone else who thought it was good. It wasn't perfect but it was a good ride:smokin:

[Darkgod]

It was so terrible... the whole dream sequences and imagery was terrble, as was the Laurie chicks acting... god it just stunk

[IM_UndeaD]

H2 was friggin sweet!


finally someone else who thought it was good. It wasn't perfect but it was a good ride:smokin:


:diablo::nod::bigthumbup:

[binksawsfan]

well guys & gals i seen halloween 2 tonight.. well i do think that it was a awesome ROB ZOMBIE MOVIE!! if you have not seen it you need to go and see it!!
:coolbeer:

[RIP]

What exactly is it that horror fans want? Self-aware genre gimick shit like SCREAM? Incessant franchise garbage like SAW 6? Lame-ass misguided remakes like LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT? Soft PG-13 bore-fests like UNBORN? You want something new and hardcore that isn't watered down for the mainstream audience, something with atmosphere and well designed characters, and when a director gives it to you...you hate it? Makes no sense.

RZ takes Rosenthal's film (a stale-as-fuck one-note remake of Carpenter's original film) and turns it into something unique and completely his own. Dawn Of The Dead, TCM, Friday the 13th remakes are nothing more then spit-out, souped up, watered down versions of their original source material. RZ went someplace original. Credit to him for that. Credit to him for pushing the violence envelope for a rated R film as well. Awesome production design and costumes. Great film.
It's not perfect, but it doesn't have to be. He showed that the slasher genre is still a viable one. Before seeing this film, I would have said it was dead.

For those who of you who didn't enjoy this film, I hope you enjoy THE STEPFATHER, SORRORITY ROW, JENNIFER'S BODY, and SAW 6. Same old shit. Horror fans eat it up.

[steelba]

We want a movie that isn't a fucking remake by a POS director, apparently that is asking to much :starefreak:

[DMHead777]

We want a movie that isn't a fucking remake by a POS director, apparently that is asking to much :starefreak:

Apparently it is..remakes are the cool thing to do nowadays

[FrighT MasteR]

H2 isn't a remake though :ahheh:

[steelba]

H2 isn't a remake though :ahheh:
Right it's a sequel to Rob Zombie's original idea "Halloween" , how ever did he think up such original characters :lol2:

[FrighT MasteR]

:stare:

[WarBeast]

I really don't give a fuck if it's a remake or not... just give me a flick that I enjoy and I don't give a damn.. There's not much left in the world that is an ORIGINAL IDEA... give me you're ORIGINAL IDEA and I'll either give you fifteen different examples of someone else who had the same ORIGINAL IDEA as your ORIGINAL IDEA or I'll steal it and it will be MY ORIGINAL IDEA! WOOOT!

Seriously though.. WTF do you want from a slasher flick?

"I want ORIGINALITY!"

Okay.. you want someone else with a different mask with a different weapon?

How original is that?

I haven't seen this flick yet, and I don't care if it rocks or sucks.. I just think the whole "REMAKES SUCK!" battle-cry is fucking retarded...

[steelba]

go see this POS shit then.

[WarBeast]

go see this POS shit then.

I fucking will... and if it entertains me then wooHOO! if it doesn't then I won't blame it on being a remake.. I'll blame it on being a shitty movie.

[Vincenzo Incendio]

http://jamie-online.com/random-jamz/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/facepalm.jpg

[Chief Falling Rock]

I really don't give a fuck if it's a remake or not... just give me a flick that I enjoy and I don't give a damn.. There's not much left in the world that is an ORIGINAL IDEA... give me you're ORIGINAL IDEA and I'll either give you fifteen different examples of someone else who had the same ORIGINAL IDEA as your ORIGINAL IDEA or I'll steal it and it will be MY ORIGINAL IDEA! WOOOT!

Seriously though.. WTF do you want from a slasher flick?

"I want ORIGINALITY!"

Okay.. you want someone else with a different mask with a different weapon?

How original is that?

I haven't seen this flick yet, and I don't care if it rocks or sucks.. I just think the whole "REMAKES SUCK!" battle-cry is fucking retarded...

Amen to that.

[RIP]

I fucking will... and if it entertains me then wooHOO! if it doesn't then I won't blame it on being a remake.. I'll blame it on being a shitty movie.

Exactly right. If a movie is good it's good. The remake phenomenon is not new. Hollywood has had the remake bug since it's beginning. (The WIZARD OF OZ that everyone knows and loves is a freaking remake.) Halloween 2 is a remake in that it has the same title and character, but otherwise it's an original film...and a good one at that.

[Darkgod]

Exactly right. If a movie is good it's good. The remake phenomenon is not new. Hollywood has had the remake bug since it's beginning. (The WIZARD OF OZ that everyone knows and loves is a freaking remake.) Halloween 2 is a remake in that it has the same title and character, but otherwise it's an original film...and a good one at that.

Oz isn't a remake, its a feature length movie of a 13 minute short. Not exactly a remake.

[strtfghtr]

I fucking will... and if it entertains me then wooHOO! if it doesn't then I won't blame it on being a remake.. I'll blame it on being a shitty movie.

most sense in this thread

[RIP]

Oz isn't a remake, its a feature length movie of a 13 minute short. Not exactly a remake.

I'm not referring to the 1910 13 minute film. I'm referring to the 1925 Larry Semon version which was the first real adaptation of The wonderful Wizard Of Oz. It clocks in at 93 minutes.

[Joker]

I really don't give a fuck if it's a remake or not... just give me a flick that I enjoy and I don't give a damn.. There's not much left in the world that is an ORIGINAL IDEA... give me you're ORIGINAL IDEA and I'll either give you fifteen different examples of someone else who had the same ORIGINAL IDEA as your ORIGINAL IDEA or I'll steal it and it will be MY ORIGINAL IDEA! WOOOT!

:coolbeer: I couldnt agree more.

[arnez]

...so was the kills better in this one?

[IM_UndeaD]

_

[ReD]

Some more thoughts.

Movie was a complete bore fest after about the first 20 minutes or so as others who did not like it have mentioned.

The movie completely unravels into a boring, uninteresting crusade of redundant kills (while intense compared to the first, they were repetitive in fashion much like the F13 remake which was a problem I had with that remake even though I think its a good F13)

Followed by burnt out Laurie and a Dr. Loomis that's completely unlikeable (even though it was a different idea) packaged together with a bunch of characters that all look like filthy trash and generally are unlikeable. I could live with whiny Laurie but the burnt out, bore fest shit that entangled her and the Myers family in general was just stupid.

I would agree that Rob tried to make his own 'Halloween' with this movie more so than the first but the problem is so many characters are just bleh and transparent that you could package their types in any other of his movies on top of all the other artsy hysteria really did not gel well in this movie at all.

As far as Sheri goes. I would not have a problem if it were mere flashbacks but the fact that they have her in this film in a more recurring role even if its for mere seconds at a time just came off as by the numbers when it concerns Rob's past work.

So I stand by what I said. I thought the ending was something that worked for me with the idea that it could provide something different for the series and by different I mean something that might be plausible in the context of the franchise even though I can understand why some people like what he tried to do with this movie.

The man needs to either give up some creative control in his movies or stop making movies because im not sure he can get better with the way he constructs his movies.

2/10

[Chief Falling Rock]

the more I think about it, the more I agree with Redpath about Laurie. I mean I can't imagine what that would do to your head to have a tragedy like that occure in your life. But she had the whole fuck the world rebellious thing going on and GOD it was annoying. And someone mentioned the kills. Yeah some were good, but the biggest WTF moment for me was in he chokes someone to death. Really?? You grabbed their neck till they stopped moving. Thats....really lame.

[Bedogsexor]

I will rent it in 3 months

[ReD]

I mean yeah its nice to see kitchen knife kills (Micheal) or Machete kills (Jason) but fucks sake the kills in some of these newer films are just so damn redundant.

Yeah Myers throughout history never was big on artillery but damn how many times in a movie do we need to see hack em up with your standard kitchen knife or machete.

Its like the filmmakers said to themselves 'yeah well those are their primary weapons so lets just use them for the sake of using them and fuck everything else'.

[RIP]

A good variety of kills in the films beyond just the knife, and all of them horrific and reality based. I'll take that over the lame ass RIDICULOUS kills in the original H2. These kills were brutal bloody and intense, and you could feel the force behind them. RZ keeps it terrifying and real rather than fantastic. I quite liked Laurie's character in this film, and Brad Dourif was excellent. I also like the nomadic Myers as well. RZ continues to add depth to Myers. He's not just a retarded killing machine like Jason. He's got shit going on in his head. I also like what they did with Loomis in this film. it was a nice extension of his character that was never achieved with Donald Pleasance and McDowell has the chops to pull it off.

[Lemmywinks]

I'm just not going to see this simple as that. Remake or not it looks like shit all I really hear or read about it confirms that fact so going to use the money for something more constructive...beer.

[steelba]

I'm just not going to see this simple as that. Remake or not it looks like shit all I really hear or read about it confirms that fact so going to use the money for something more constructive...beer.
Yeah I agree, the fact that Zombie himself said it wasn't a really good film should be enough imo. He was distancing himself from it on the Howard Stern show blaming a 6 month shooting schedule for it. Least thatz da word.

[RIP]

So you're trashing the film and you haven't seen it?

[FrighT MasteR]

:ahheh:

[IM_UndeaD]

So you're trashing the film and you haven't seen it?

That How Ya Do It! lol :straightface:

[opterasis]

Movie was a horrible piece of shit.

[IM_UndeaD]

Movie was a horrible piece of shit.

:thumbup:

[Wax Zombie]

I thought it was good from the way it was. It can do with out the ghost mom, but as a slasher flick. It turn out to be pretty okay.

6/10

[nite_zombie]

I thought it was good from the way it was. It can do with out the ghost mom, but as a slasher flick. It turn out to be pretty okay.

6/10


Agreed, rating and all. I thought it was better than the first Zombie Halloween (which sucked asshole meat) imo. Ghost sheri and the horse was a pretty stupid idea though.

[WarBeast]

Just got back from seeing, and though there were elements that I enjoyed, all in all, it wasn't a satisfactory experience for me.

I really didn't like the flashing back and forth between two things that was prevalent throughout the movie. Laurie eating pizza flashing Michael eating a dog, back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, Laurie, Michael, Laurie, Michael, Pizza, Dog, Pizza, Dog, ad nauseaum... Between that and the goddamn shakey shit, after a while it all started to give me a raging headache.

Throw in some plot points and character behavior that I didn't feel made a lick of sense sense and a bunch of douchebags chattering behind me and it all resulted in a seriously annoyed WarBeast.

As stated before though, there were some fun things to keep it from being a total waste of my time. The titties were nice and some of the killings made me smile.

I'll probably rent the flick as soon as it comes out to video and see if it fares better for me... It is not uncommon for me to see a movie at the theatre and be totally disgruntled and later watch it on DVD and enjoy it.

Time will tell..

[WarBeast]

Agreed, rating and all. I thought it was better than the first Zombie Halloween (which sucked asshole meat) imo. Ghost sheri and the horse was a pretty stupid idea though.

I think the ghost mom, probably wasn't in RZ's original plot synopsis, but Sheri wanted to be in the movie and threatened to cut him off from the voodoo punanny if he didn't figure out a way of making her a part of it.

[3/6]

So you're trashing the film and you haven't seen it?

:bitchslap:

[DMHead777]

I've heard mostly negative reviews, so I'm going to wait for it on dvd.

[Revenant]

dvd rental for me, if not for curiousity's sake, no interested in shelling out 8-10 bucks for it though.

[Cyanide Christ]

juat saw it.....AWSOME!

[WarBeast]

juat saw it.....AWSOME!

No... watchable perhaps... awsome? definately not..

[Bojangles]

My review:


Description:

Michael Myers is still at large and no less dangerous than ever. After a failed reunion to reach his baby sister at their old home, Laurie Strode is immediately taken to a hospital to be treated by the wounds that had been afflicted by her brother a few hours ago. However, Michael isn't too far off and will continue his murdering 'Halloween' rampage until he gets his sister all to himself.

Review:

This is the sequel that Rob Zombie promised he would have no part of. Unfortunately, he lied to us. He wrote and directed this one as well. Once again, he is promising that he will have no involvement with another sequel to Halloween, but how can we believe him? He's already broken one promise so it would not surprise me if he did it again. All I can say is that we better hope that he stays true to his promise. I will try my best not to spoil anything for any of you. Now, let's get on with my review of Rob Zombie's Halloween II (2009).

I really wanted this movie to be good, but with some of the things I had seen in the multiple trailers and TV spots were very discouraging. Rob Zombie said that he wanted to make Michael Myers more realistic, more of a human. However, in the trailer I clearly saw Michael Myers lifting up a car on one side and pushing it over. That's not very realistic to me. I guess when Rob Zombie said he wanted Michael Myers to be more realistic he just figured he would have Michael grunt from time-to-time when he was killing someone. Despite being discouraged by the trailers and TV spots, I still wanted this movie to be good. I still held out some hope for it. Also, let it be known, I didn't think Rob Zombie's first attempt at a Halloween remake was anything better than decent.

Also, I'm sure all of you know that Sherri Moon Zombie (Deborah Myers, Rob Zombie's Wife) is in this one as well, despite the fact that she had committed suicide in the previous film. When I heard about her being in this one I could not help but roll my eyes. Of course I knew it was coming, I just hated to accept it. No, she's not just in flashback scenes as I had hoped. That's just simply not enough screen time for Rob Zombie's wife. Unfortunately, she's a ghost-like figure that manifests in the mind of her son, Michael Myers. If you think that's bad, she gets more screen time than I ever thought she would have as a fucking ghost. Yes, it's true. Also, her acting seems to be particularly bad in this one. It just shows that Rob Zombie will do anything to include his wife in anything he does.

You know, I was talking about this with one of my friends when Halloween II was in early stages of production and Sherri Moon Zombie was part of the confirmed cast list. He said: "Man, Rob Zombie would put her in his movies even if it completely fucking ruined the whole movie". I hate to say it, but he was right. She didn't ruin the movie herself, but she played a part in its downfall.

The characters were also a big problem with this one. Laurie has changed a decent bit and Loomis has changed quite a bit. He gets a decent bit of screen time, but it doesn't really matter. I couldn't really find a point to him being in the movie at all. Well, besides the fact that he played a major role in the first one. Some things were just silly, and Uncle Coffin (or whatever his name was) didn't have as big of a role as I had thought. With those viral videos that were released I figured he would have a bigger role in the movie, but he didn't. On a good note, I did enjoy Brad Douriff's in this movie. In my opinion, his acting was better than anyone else in the movie.

The first few minutes of the movie started off strong, but after the hospital scenes the movie went downhill instantly. People were actually talking trash in the theaters as soon as the hospital stuff was over. Yes, only a few minutes of the movie actually takes place in the hospital. I thought they would have spent more time in the hospital, as that's what the trailers seemed to insinuate.

I know everyone is waiting to hear about the death scenes in the movie. Well, there were some good ones. Unfortunately, the directing was particularly poor in some of these scenes. The camera shook so much at times that you really couldn't tell what was going on. Yes, in most of the death scenes the camera would shake. I guess Rob Zombie wanted things to look more forceful and brutal. Unfortunately, by doing this, you couldn't see the brutality that was apparently going on, thus the shaking of the camera was in-effective.

There is so much more I could say about this movie, but I do not want to spoil it for anyone that hasn't seen it yet. Maybe one day I'll write a review that does contain spoilers and my opinions on them, but not at this time. I wanted this movie to be good, but, in my opinion, it wasn't. The movie just seemed to drag on and on. I also see that Rob Zombie still lacks writing skills, especially in the dialogue department. The dialogue made the acting awkward at times. Oh, before I forget, the ending was terrible and anti-climactic. I walked out of the theaters horribly disappointed after it was all over. I know I wasn't the only one disappointed in the audience as well. I heard people talking trash while the movie was on and when we were all getting up to leave.

That's two Halloween movies you've ruined so far, Rob Zombie. Yes, maybe the first one was decent but a remake of the classic Halloween could have been so much better. You had a great opportunity handed to you. You had the chance to remake a classic and you completely fucked it up. I hope you stay true to your promise and you don't make a third one. I know one will be coming, because of the money these movies pull in, but you have absolutely no business writing another one.

I rate Halloween II (2009) a 4 out of 10.

http://www.talkhorror.com/love-hate/1339-halloween-ii-2009-theatrical-review.html

[IM_UndeaD]

'Halloween 3D' in Theaters by Summer of 2010

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/17231

The independent studio's co-Chairman Bob Weinstein said today that the 3-D sequel, titled, appropriately enough, "Halloween 3D," is in development

Weinstein said Rob Zombie, who directed "Halloween II" and 2007's reboot of the 31-year-old horror series, won't return for "Halloween 3-D." He said the studio is in negotiations with a new director, whom he declined to name, who has experience in horror and has a "different take" on the franchise."



:D

[Chief Falling Rock]

BD reports a lot of bullshit. I wouldn't believe anything they say. Although I wouldn't be to suprised if someone came on board to do Halloween 3. I personally think they should remake the original Halloween 3. Season of the Witch and just call it that. Drop the H3. Make it its own movie.

[BigFatOgre]

:nono:More 3d. I sure do hope this is incorrect info.

[skybrick]

I have a ton of respect for RIP but how your saying a movie like this is original is beyond me. :lol: Brutality is not how I perceive Michael. He is a finesse killer and I do not want to see his emotions poured on the screen. The unknown and mystery of Michael is what made him interesting. Now that it is gone these last two movies are leaving a horrible mark on the beginning franchise. I aint going to pay a dime for this and the only way Ill watch this movie is if its free.

[BigFatOgre]

Finesse? Didn't he stick a girl to the wall with a kitchen knife.

[skybrick]

Dont even talk if you dont know what Im talking about n00b

[ReD]

Halloween 2 was an absolute, herculean failure of a movie IMO yet at the same time I would never say Michael was a finesse killer IMO.

No way, no how. He was just as if not in some cases more brutal than Jason.

Mysterious to the extent that he was silent and stalked in the shadows was about as far as the mythos went for me. After that it was find Laurie Strode, find Jamie Lloyd, find Laurie Strode then lose in hackalicous fashion to Busta Rhymes in what I would say is still one of the worst if not the worst film in the franchise.

Between Revenge, Resurrection and RZH2. I'd probably give RZH2 the nod as the worst but Resurrection is a film I'll likely never watch again whereas I'll probably end up checking RZH2 when it hits TV in a year or so just to see if my opinion changed but I highly doubt it will.

[RIP]

I have a ton of respect for RIP but how your saying a movie like this is original is beyond me. :lol: Brutality is not how I perceive Michael. He is a finesse killer and I do not want to see his emotions poured on the screen. The unknown and mystery of Michael is what made him interesting. Now that it is gone these last two movies are leaving a horrible mark on the beginning franchise. I aint going to pay a dime for this and he only way Ill watch this movie is if its free.

Thanks.

It's a matter of taste I suppose. I don't like the original Halloween 2. There was time when I did, but know it bores me. I also have no interest in the majority of these horror remakes. They have all been a huge disappointment. (I'm going to watch Last House remake tonight. Love the original, dreading this remake.) So for Rob Zombie to deal with the original H2 for 15 minutes (more effectively than anything Rosenthal did) and then scrap it for an original take on the franchise I thought was a wise decision. A straight remake would have been far more offensive to me.

You might be right about Mike being a finesse killer, but that's because of Carpenter's style. Personally I don't think movies like that work today. As I get older I appreciate seeing the reality-based brutality and horror of violence as depicted on screen. It's more interesting to me to see Zombie's chest pounding knife kills with all of their intensity and bloodsplattered aftermath than to see Michael Myers stab a nurse in the back with a tiny scalpel and lift her into the air ridiculously, or burning a nurses face in the hot tub lifting her out every few seconds so we can see the damage. Those things just don't resonate with me now the way they did when I was 14.

Again though...you haven't seen the film. To each his own. I would rather spend my money on a director trying to do something with his material than a studio pumping out franchise fodder like Final Destination in 3D. Trying and failing is better to me. (Although I don't think RZ failed with this movie.)

[RIP]

:nono:More 3d. I sure do hope this is incorrect info.

Poltergeist remake in 3D goes into production next year.

[skybrick]

Can somebody define finesse for me, especially ReD. :stare:. Michael picked and chooses who to kill and he is so subtle in action. Anyway, I didn't want to argue about that.

EDIT: To each of their own. :coolbeer:

[IM_UndeaD]

BD reports a lot of bullshit. I wouldn't believe anything they say. Although I wouldn't be to suprised if someone came on board to do Halloween 3. I personally think they should remake the original Halloween 3. Season of the Witch and just call it that. Drop the H3. Make it its own movie.



http://www.horrorbid.com/blog/blog1.php/2009/08/30/breaking-news-halloween-3d-coming-next-s


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2009/08/halloween-3d-coming-in-summer-2010.html

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090830/ap_en_mo/us_box_office

[koolmike]

no interest in this

[Grendel]

Thanks.

It's a matter of taste I suppose. I don't like the original Halloween 2. There was time when I did, but know it bores me. I also have no interest in the majority of these horror remakes. They have all been a huge disappointment. (I'm going to watch Last House remake tonight. Love the original, dreading this remake.) So for Rob Zombie to deal with the original H2 for 15 minutes (more effectively than anything Rosenthal did) and then scrap it for an original take on the franchise I thought was a wise decision. A straight remake would have been far more offensive to me.

You might be right about Mike being a finesse killer, but that's because of Carpenter's style. Personally I don't think movies like that work today. As I get older I appreciate seeing the reality-based brutality and horror of violence as depicted on screen. It's more interesting to me to see Zombie's chest pounding knife kills with all of their intensity and bloodsplattered aftermath than to see Michael Myers stab a nurse in the back with a tiny scalpel and lift her into the air ridiculously, or burning a nurses face in the hot tub lifting her out every few seconds so we can see the damage. Those things just don't resonate with me now the way they did when I was 14.

Again though...you haven't seen the film. To each his own. I would rather spend my money on a director trying to do something with his material than a studio pumping out franchise fodder like Final Destination in 3D. Trying and failing is better to me. (Although I don't think RZ failed with this movie.)

Agree with this breakdown, RIP. Have to say, though, I thought the second half of RZ's H2 was far too similar to the end of the first (RZ) film. I'm all for going with a new direction if you're going to go the remake route, but I wasn't expecting that feeling of repetition between the two.

[RIP]

Agree with this breakdown, RIP. Have to say, though, I thought the second half of RZ's H2 was far too similar to the end of the first (RZ) film. I'm all for going with a new direction if you're going to go the remake route, but I wasn't expecting that feeling of repetition between the two.

I didn't catch that vibe myself. I thought RZ's Halloween remake was really great when it was original material. Once Myers gets to town and it becomes a fairly straightforward remake of Carpenter's source material I essentially tuned out. H2 didn't do that for me. I liked the party they went to. Great production design. I also liked Dourif's gut-wrenching reaction as well. Rang true to me. I also enjoyed seeing Hesseman and Kidder in the film. Maybe I'm showing my age there, but i grew up watching those two actors.

[Grendel]

I didn't catch that vibe myself. I thought RZ's Halloween remake was really great when it was original material. Once Myers gets to town and it becomes a fairly straightforward remake of Carpenter's source material I essentially tuned out. H2 didn't do that for me. I liked the party they went to. Great production design. I also liked Dourif's gut-wrenching reaction as well. Rang true to me.Thought Dourif was criminally underused in the first one, so more screentime was a big plus.
I also enjoyed seeing Hesseman and Kidder in the film. Maybe I'm showing my age there, but i grew up watching those two actors.Heh. Johnny Fever: the retirement years.

[The Tall Man]

I didn't catch that vibe myself. I thought RZ's Halloween remake was really great when it was original material. Once Myers gets to town and it becomes a fairly straightforward remake of Carpenter's source material I essentially tuned out. H2 didn't do that for me. I liked the party they went to. Great production design. I also liked Dourif's gut-wrenching reaction as well. Rang true to me. I also enjoyed seeing Hesseman and Kidder in the film. Maybe I'm showing my age there, but i grew up watching those two actors.

:nod: Thats pretty much the way I feel about the two films but I thought the party scene was a little too long and pointless. Seeing Dourif and Kidder was pretty cool, Dourif to me was the highlight of the film. It was kinda like watching Charles Lee Ray VS Michael Myers

[BigFatOgre]

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[koolmike]

Just got back from this.

Shit movie. Dream sequence with MM was OK. The rest of them were laughable. Like RZ took a big hit of ACID and remade part II. Bringing in 70's actors who I liked didn't help this garbage in any way for me.

Definitely a bigger and more brutal killer but not as scary as the original. Some movies are just not to be remade. Hallowwen is one of them IMO.

[IM_UndeaD]

no interest in this


Just got back from this.

:straightface2:Lol..

[koolmike]

:straightface2:Lol..

Was off today...had nothing to do...saw F4 first then snuck in to see H2.

At least I didn't pay for this crap.

[steelba]

:straightface2:Lol..

you're kinda pissing me off, you'll know when i'm real pissed cause you'll be banned :D

[koolmike]

:yes:

[Wally The Cannibal]

I like to have fun at the movies, and I did with Halloween 2. You can all bicker away about whatever, but to me that's what truly counts sometimes is being entertained and forgetting about life's bullshit for a couple of hours with your friends.

[IKickAssForTheLord]

Was off today...had nothing to do...saw F4 first then snuck in to see H2.

At least I didn't pay for this crap.

Good Thing.

[RIP]

Was off today...had nothing to do...saw F4 first then snuck in to see H2.

At least I didn't pay for this crap.

Perhaps Mike, but you did pay for F4.

[steelba]

Perhaps Mike, but you did pay for F4.
So did I and it was worth the $13.50 I doled out for it.
I checked in on H2 after FD ended and it was a ghost town in there, FD3D was packed though.

[FreddyFreakChica17]

I went to see this flick on Sunday with my brother and a couple of his friends. I wasn't disappointed, but I wasn't thrilled with it either. This is the way I feel about Rob's take on the original too, though. I enjoy it, but in comparison to the original film, it's mediocre. I do think that Rob has a good visual eye and entertaining concepts for movies, but as others have stated, he lacks writing finesse. All of his characters end up rather similar, no matter who created them originally. Maybe he should team up with a couple other writers and they can work together? It's rare that a film script goes into production without changes being made by others involved with the film-making.

Anyway, about the film. I agree with many others who saw it, the first 20 - 30 minutes were great. The gore was well - done and the atmosphere was tense. As a fan of the original Halloween 2, I was a little disappointed that there wasn't a longer use of the hospital, but Rob Zombie had other ideas which were fine too. I really liked that Brad Dourif had a much bigger part in this one - he is a great actor (I believe he was nominated for an Oscar for his work in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest) and horror veteran that many of us know and love. Margot Kidder appearing as Laurie's therapist was nice too. (Say what you want about Rob Zombie, but he does have respect for horror fans - and gives nods to previous material - which I like. Most remakes nowadays act like they are something new and original and they're not - not to mention a good deal of them are, as someone else said, "hackalicious" [Love the word, had to use it, lol]) I thought Laurie became more of her own character, and I could actually see a lot of modern teens acting the way she did after a tragedy. I didn't like how everyone looked like a grungey mess though. I think Annie was under-used and Harley and Mya should have been developed more. I actually didn't mind the visions and I liked the "humanization" of Michael. I guess I'm just one of those psychology buffs that likes to get inside their heads and I felt something for Michael for the first time. I felt the climax was rushed, but the ending was a nice twist. If they follow this opening, it would be a nice twist for the series, as ReD said.

All in all, I'd probably give it a 6.5/10 because I found it entertaining. Still not even close to Devil's Rejects - Rob's true hit. I'd like him to do one of his "originals" again (in quotes because, as someone said, there's really no originality anywhere anymore). Well, that's my take on it.

[LgOr]

movie was decently entertaining the opening scenes with MM getting out of the ambulance and brutally slicing off the guys head which was definitely brutal but then kinda got just stupid with the overkills, stabbing that black nurse like 50 times, I mean c'mon. surprised though MM doesnt don the mask that much in this, just kind of has his face hidden in the dark a bit. Loomis was a complete utter waste seriously and then just decides to show up at the end just to get killed. whatever. apart from being somewhat entertaining, this movie was a piece of shit

[BooBerry]

Yeah, I think they tried to compete with Jason in terms of brutality. I agree about the overkills.

[grlxx]

My friend ALMOST suceeded into talking me into seeing this...but i have zero desire to. ironic enough, the local theatre had this promotion (or shall i say call for desperation..) anyone who bought their tickets in advance got a free H2 keychain :bs:

[Doc Awesome]

Just got back from it and I thought it was pretty damn good. I had very low expectations and they were blown out of the water. I honestly don't think this deserves the ripping it's getting, but hey opinions are opinions.

8/10 for me.

[Tsorf]

It was always pretty clear that Halloween fans would watch Halloween 2, knowing exactly what we were all offered in the last run (which in my book was treacherous). In the case of Halloween 2, it was indeed better, but far from satisfying. Micheal Myers, great. Humanize Micheal Myers... wait, wasn't it the lack of "humanizing" this character that made him not just unstoppable but unapproachable. Some could argue that it was that uncertainty of being even human that made him something to fear and bask in the thrill of witnessing his presence. Alright, so for die-hard fans we are aware of the young Micheal Myers being seen more often in the the 'tv-version' of the original film. Did it do much to help the film? In my personal case, it just made the movie longer (or was it? I don't know exactly). But I have been convinced for as long as I can remember the thing that worked so effectively for this character was his ability to have nothing recognizable in any sympathetic form. We all have seen his break down moments, especially in part 5, but it was short lived and quite typical after that many sequels. Ok, so I've complained a bit here about the MAIN character, but without complaint I will add remorsefully Micheal Myers, the stalker/killer was great. Maybe the grunts and moans seemed typical of his "character development" but in any other Halloween film it could've worked just the same.
As for Rob Zombie and his fascination with including familiar actors in unfamiliar situations, redundant. Seriously, there has to come a point when people will catch on; Rob Zombie has a tendency to take his sympathizing for "the old school" a little too "new school". As much as violence and tension seem to play strong in this film, something any horror fan can treasure, it can become secondary to how its unfolded. You should all be aware of who I am referring to as the "all-star" cast of this new series. Always seemed a little unfitting for me personally... feels more like one of those 'should-I-die-tomorrow' attempts at movie making. Not a move with plenty strength if you ask me.
The acting all together was much like watching a battle between a beetle and an empty can of soda in the eyes of a Polanski-wannabe director. But giving a Saving Private Ryan death scene to Danielle Harris' character was not only hard to endure, but for a moment I actually became distracted enough to begin counting the empty seats in the theater I was in. I must've made it to around 40 before remembering I was in fact watching a film I paid to see. Laurie Strode in this film was about as interesting as she was entertaining. Bland. Forgettable. Annoying. Useless. Teenager? Fine, I get it, even tried harder at some points. But no. I am certain most of that is in fact due to some of the worst screen writting in recent history.
It must be understood that nepotism might seem understanding to those just barely making it in a business full of greed, worship, exclusiveness and even betrayal. But the inclusion of Rob Zombie's wife, Sheri Moon Zombie, is not only a direct insult to the viewer, but in this film in particular it proves to be an absolute waste of imagination for the flow and nature of a film series that has notoriously been popular to due to the very simplistic and straight-forward character development of anything regarding Micheal Myers' past. If anything, I'd probably think very differently of the outcome of this film if it were absent at least 99% of all of Micheal Myers' mother's scenes.
All in all however, a better effort in terms of continuation from the last. Dr. Loomis' character was easiest to observe indifferently, being of course Malcolm McDowell and NOT Donald Pleasance. But on a continuous rant against this film's direction... it has been very popularized the fact that the score of the original film series (of course most notably the FIRST) is what helped build such a solid, and at that time, contemporary chunk of iconic horror. It was wasteful in many ways to lack that particular theme in this movie (and the last) in such entirety. By including it torwards the end of the film made up for nothing... it felt more forced that way and should be noted for Mr. Zombie in the future to be certain film scoring is not to be underestimated. And being an 'old school' horror fan himself, he should've already understood the nature of bringing cinema its truest terror... what we cannot see.

[FrighT MasteR]

:stare:

[skybrick]

:compwork: I read that book.

[3/6]

Just got back from it and I thought it was pretty damn good. I had very low expectations and they were blown out of the water. I honestly don't think this deserves the ripping it's getting, but hey opinions are opinions.

8/10 for me.

:hmmm:

[BigFatOgre]

I don't like the idea of the grunting thing. Michael is supposed to seem inhuman. He is the purest of evil with nothing left in his soul. He killed without effort as if it was just a part of everyday existance. I'm not sure why Zombie wanted to humanize him so much. I don't want to feel for Michael - I want to beafraid of him.

[RIP]

He grunts in Carpenter's film and no one had a problem with it. Now suddenly everyone thinks he needs to a fucking mute?

[ReD]

RIP is 100% spot on. Hated RZH2 but that's an argument that does not work IMO.

He grunted about the same amount of times IMO in both Carpenters film and RZH2.

[3/6]

He grunts in Carpenter's film and no one had a problem with it. Now suddenly everyone thinks he needs to a fucking mute?

:lol2:
word

i think im gonna check this flick tomorrow. fuck it. if its as br00tal as everyone is saying. ill be happy.

[Nightmares]

I'll wait till they give it away for free on dvd to watch it.

[Lemmywinks]

I'll wait till they give it away for free on dvd to watch it.

If free beer is thrown in i'll consider it.

[steelba]

If free beer is thrown in i'll consider it.
If it's atleast 6 then i'll consider it, they better be really strong too.

[Darkgod]

Just got back from it and I thought it was pretty damn good. I had very low expectations and they were blown out of the water. I honestly don't think this deserves the ripping it's getting, but hey opinions are opinions.

8/10 for me.

:kicknuts:

[Lemmywinks]

If it's atleast 6 then i'll consider it, they better be really strong too.

Nah 12 pack IPA stone ale if i'm going to watch something that painful the anty must be even or i'll have to up it.

[steelba]

Nah 12 pack IPA stone ale if i'm going to watch something that painful the anty must be even or i'll have to up it.
IPA would work :rockin:

[Doc Awesome]

:kicknuts:

:bigeyes:

[Nightmares]

If free beer is thrown in i'll consider it.

:hmmm:

[Lemmywinks]

:hmmm:

Dude no way is the dvd enough seeing the previews for this makes me want to drink.

[Nightmares]

pinche cerveza :rockin:

[Slayer]

Just came back from seeing H2.

What a weird, weird movie. I think I liked it... I don't really know what to think but I did enjoy myself. After The Final Destination I needed a movie that at least had an element of horror to it and I am satisfied.

I give it a 6/10