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MadMac9
11-22-2008, 07:29 PM
Is this movie as good as everyone says it is? I was reading the Wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibal_Holocaust on it and it sounds very intense. I'm wondering if the netflix us version is edited. It seems like you have to a specific version for it to be unedited.

Get Some
11-22-2008, 07:32 PM
its ok, i thought it was overrated, not as extreme as everyone said except for the animal slayings

xxsic4slipknotxx
11-22-2008, 07:34 PM
If you can get past the animal killings, which are real by the way if you didn't already know that, than you'll really enjoy the film. :nod:

The version they carry on Netflix is not edited, it's the same version that's available online and in stores.

ReD
11-22-2008, 07:46 PM
Such a brutal film.

A pioneer.

All that said, I've seen it once and that was enough no offense to anyone who likes repeat viewings.

FrighT MasteR
11-22-2008, 08:00 PM
Didn't like the animal killings, but the movie itself was aight :shrugs:

KING
11-22-2008, 08:12 PM
Watched it a few times, very entertaining.

woodenheart
11-22-2008, 08:14 PM
never saw it....would like to.

cmurdur
11-22-2008, 08:30 PM
Eh. 6/10

Misfit
11-22-2008, 08:56 PM
:smokin2: the impalement left me speechless

Cataclysm
11-22-2008, 09:11 PM
Solid movie. Without question one of the best horror/exploitation flicks you'll see.

txjeff07
11-22-2008, 09:14 PM
Was ok, a little overated, impalement scene was crazy and I felt bad for the turtle, that was kinda screwed up

Joker
11-22-2008, 09:19 PM
Good movie,I thought it was a pretty intense flick.

rai
11-22-2008, 09:47 PM
overrated YES!!!!!!, the animal slaying was unnecesary, hated itall the way. 6/10 at most. And what the hell is up with that music????

Doc Awesome
11-22-2008, 10:34 PM
Good movie, but really no need to watch more than once. The turtle scene was intense and amazing all at once def. one of my fav. parts.

steelba
11-22-2008, 10:53 PM
it's not a very good movie imo, the animal killings weren't all as bad as people make them out to be..

FrighT MasteR
11-23-2008, 12:37 AM
They were just unnecessary :shrugs:

Metapher
11-23-2008, 07:12 AM
It's a very good movie. It would have been good even if there was less gore and stuff, although not as intense. Really feels like it was made for a bigger purpose than to shock.

Darkgod
11-23-2008, 09:17 AM
4/10 pretty typical crappy exploit movie

steelba
11-23-2008, 11:49 AM
agreed..

woodenheart
11-23-2008, 11:54 AM
It's a very good movie. It would have been good even if there was less gore and stuff, although not as intense. Really feels like it was made for a bigger purpose than to shock.



This is on my wonderful UG list from my favourite underground guys....you and cataclysm....:heart: going to look this up and give it a watch.

Metapher
11-23-2008, 02:59 PM
Yay! :D

skybrick
11-24-2008, 10:52 PM
Monumental movie to the genre but I dont think its that great of a movie. Entertaining at few parts but the movie I thought was pretty flat. 5/10

Cataclysm
11-24-2008, 10:58 PM
Guess I'm going to have to go through this thread and start giving infractions to people for having shit-sense about good movies. :sure:

LadyFrankenstein
11-25-2008, 10:42 AM
A great movie that should be seen at least once. I always wondered if the supposed piranha bait scene was ever deemed to exist. Does anyone else know about this rumour? I "heard" a scene was filmed where a native was tied to a board and floated out into the water where he gets devoured by piranha. It was ultimately cut with some saying it was too gory, others saying it was real, and then that it never existed.

Cataclysm
11-25-2008, 11:36 AM
I believe the piranha scene only exists as stills in the Grindhouse release of CH. It could be included in other DVD releases though, considering the only fully uncut version (which is only the uncut 'road to hell' sequence) of CH is the Ultrabit edition.

cmurdur
11-25-2008, 11:48 AM
I will say that before I saw this movie, I had never seen anyone get raped with a rock before. So there's something...

slimeisacharacter
11-26-2008, 02:01 AM
The "Feast" of its age. Alot of unnecessary exploit/shock scenes in place that did nothing to move the movie along. If you enjoy those kinds of scenes, you'll like it. If not, you'll be waiting for the credits. It is overhyped due to the knee-jerk reaction to the animal scenes some folks have.

A solid movie, worth at least one watch.

steelba
11-26-2008, 11:30 AM
This is in no way similiar to Feast, absurd remark :dsp:

grlxx
11-26-2008, 12:13 PM
I haven't watched this movie in YEARS... i was only 10 years old when i first saw it...so you can only imagine what that led to...:faint:

slimeisacharacter
11-26-2008, 03:58 PM
This is in no way similiar to Feast, absurd remark :dsp:

Now you understand why I am not a paid professional film reviewer. Folks don't see the world through my head-trama tainted eyes. :appl1:

SpookyJ
11-27-2008, 10:58 AM
The impalement scene was pretty intense---and not that I'm a PETA member or anything, but I'm not down with animals being killed for entertaint value. Seen it once, and it was all I needed...4/10

MadMac9
11-27-2008, 01:44 PM
I just watched this movie last night and the animal kills were very unnecessary. What they did to that turtle was fucked up. Even if all the animal killings were removed the movie still sucked. 3/10

Metapher
11-27-2008, 02:21 PM
Jesus, how can people think it's a bad movie? It's better than most movies in terms of the plot and whatnot. Fucking hell.

Miss.Jasmine
11-27-2008, 03:18 PM
i made my vegan friend watch it...she puked.
not gonna lie..it was pretty funny.
...i'm a terrible person.

woodenheart
11-27-2008, 05:00 PM
Just watched it. Had to with this thread going on. I liked it. Kept my interest. Story fine. Animal killings...no problem. Wondered what a turtle looked like on the inside of his shell..now I know. Will I view it again...yes. There is a savage beast inside all of us.....imo.

MadMac9
11-27-2008, 05:18 PM
Just watched it. Had to with this thread going on. I liked it. Kept my interest. Story fine. Animal killings...no problem. Wondered what a turtle looked like on the inside of his shell..now I know. Will I view it again...yes. There is a savage beast inside all of us.....imo.

Glad my thread let someone enjoy this movie.

woodenheart
11-27-2008, 05:29 PM
Glad my thread let someone enjoy this movie.


Sorry newbie...as you get to know me...I am a sic, sic person....haha :rocker:

slimeisacharacter
11-27-2008, 05:53 PM
Sorry newbie...as you get to know me...I am a sic, sic person....haha :rocker:

Its true. Thats why she fits in so well here.

skybrick
11-28-2008, 04:07 PM
Thats why I suggest you leave Mac

j-vc
11-28-2008, 11:26 PM
Easily the best Italian cannibal flick from a technical standpoint and just an all around powerful film. It took me a few years to really get behind it, thinking it was simply exploitative shock - but then I watched the rest of what the Italian cannibal subgenre had to offer and realized just how good it was. Deodato really was brilliant in his time.

MadMac9
11-29-2008, 12:26 AM
Thats why I suggest you leave Mac

Why did I do? There was a number of people on this thread that said the movie was overrated and ya you should view it once but that's it. Sorry that everyone can't have the same opinion on every movie.

woodenheart
11-29-2008, 12:41 AM
Why did I do? There was a number of people on this thread that said the movie was overrated and ya you should view it once but that's it. Sorry that everyone can't have the same opinion on every movie.


You did nothing new guy....post on!

slimeisacharacter
11-30-2008, 03:01 AM
Well, he is doing something wrong. He's taking Skybrick seriously. Common newbie mistake. :D

Love what you want, hate what you want Mac. Don't worry when someone turns it back on you. Can't please everyone.

Galerian
11-30-2008, 03:17 AM
F**ked up flick.

steelba
11-30-2008, 11:39 AM
overrated is a good way to describe it, worth checking if you like cannibals or hate turtles :D

Cataclysm
11-30-2008, 11:55 AM
Cannibal Holocaust maybe alot of things but overrated definitely isn't one of them.

steelba
11-30-2008, 12:19 PM
Cannibal Holocaust maybe alot of things but overrated definitely isn't one of them.
it's not a good film..

Cataclysm
11-30-2008, 01:57 PM
Your right, its not a good film. Its a great film.

Elduardo
11-30-2008, 03:04 PM
Not sure about overrated but the film definitely became overhyped just after Blair Witch Project was released.

Cataclysm
11-30-2008, 03:19 PM
Not exactly sure how it was over hyped because of BWP, since the only reason it was brought up was to dispute the idea that BWP's gimmick of being 'found footage' was original.

Elduardo
11-30-2008, 03:23 PM
Lotta hype at the time that Cannibal Holocaust was the original BWP. That's really when the film got widespread visibility with mainstream horror fans.

Cataclysm
11-30-2008, 03:32 PM
Still don't see how that was over hyping since at the time of its release, it really was the BWP of the 70's. Yes you are right, it definitely was in the spotlight during this, but the supposed hype has always been the same, and still is about its graphic content and shock value. That's nothing new and hasn't changed before or after BWP.

LadyFrankenstein
11-30-2008, 04:15 PM
It might not be a great film for a number of different reasons, but it certainly isn't overrated. The problem is that with everything being released over the years, people have just become desensitized to all of the violence and shock value this film possesses. It's nothing new, nothing we haven't already seen, or in some way experienced through another film; but it is the first of it's kind.
What I liked most about this film was that it was made during an era where censorship was lax; horror films were violent, gritty, and unapologetic. If they offended you, then it was just too bad. It was from an era of film making that doesn't exist anymore and never will. The special effects were great for the time, it was violent, offensive, and underneath it all was a social commentary on civilization that is still relevant today. Sure it wasn't a perfect film, and not exactly something you might want to watch over and over, but for what it was, it achieved it's goal which is why it is discussed to this day.

Cataclysm
11-30-2008, 04:20 PM
Very well put, Lady Frank.

ReD
11-30-2008, 04:28 PM
I've never bought into 'because it was first, it must be the best' mentality that's definitely prevalent out there if not more so than the diluted abundantly blatant remake era of film making we have today.

Still I would agree this film isn't overrated especially if we go by one of the many interpretations of the term 'overrated'. For one this movie wasn't and hasn't always been talked about regardless of the BWP.

There were periods of time where you had an abundance of peeps who im sure never heard of this film.

LadyFrankenstein
11-30-2008, 05:27 PM
Yeah, the "because it was first, means it's the best" mentality is something I subscribe to either. But when I think of the cannibal sub-genre, I always go to this film, not only because it was the first, but I think it is the best when compared to it's successors, however, it goes back to what I previously stated. Having already seen Cannibal Holocaust, I knew what to expect when I sat down to view Jungle Holocaust and Cannibal Ferox. Sure, they were entertaining as hell, but was I shocked, offended, on the edge of my seat like I was the first time I viewed Cannibal Holocaust? Hell No! It didn't hold the same level of shock, surprise, and intensity that captivated me when I first viewed Holocaust.
When I was 18 I found Holocaust in a video store in Slovakia. At this time it was near impossible to find in the states, and this was still in the early stages of DVD release. Until this point my horror knowledge barely spanned beyond Romero, King, and your typical 80's slashers that could be found anywhere, so you could only imagine my excitement when I finally had the film I had heard so much about within my reach.
We can find Cannibal Holocaust, as well as countless other violent films from all the world over ANYWHERE now. After viewing so many of these films I find it hard to be shocked by anything anymore. Perhaps that is a big reason why when people who have access to so much more than I did, sit down and watch this for the first time, there isn't the same shock value as there was for me, and countless others who might have even seen it upon it's initial release. It came from a period of time when film making was carefree, careless, and no one gave a shit who they offended. It was a period that some of the greatest horror movies of all time emerged; this being one of them.

LadyFrankenstein
11-30-2008, 05:29 PM
* I meant to say that I don't subscribe to the "first means best" mentality*

strtfghtr
11-30-2008, 06:34 PM
Holocaust was not the first of it's kind, not by a long shot. Deep river Savages, Last Cannibal World, and even Emmanuel and the Last Cannibals preceded it.

http://www.amazon.com/Meat-Murder-Illustrated-Cannibal-Collection/dp/1840680407/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1228088025&sr=1-2

This book is an excellent read and has tons of info on Cannibal movies.

I havent seen Cannibal Holocaust but based on reviews and insights from various books I'm going to assume it is probably a overrated, poorly acted, poorly written, mediocrely directed film.

I'm sure the gore is over the top and from it sprung a slew of terrible cannibal movies so it's significance shouldn't be overlooked

Metapher
11-30-2008, 07:07 PM
Shut up if you haven't seen it.

LadyFrankenstein
11-30-2008, 08:33 PM
Shut up if you haven't seen it.

my sentiments exactly :tiphat:

strtfghtr
11-30-2008, 08:39 PM
just because i havent seen it doesnt change that I'm probably right

slimeisacharacter
11-30-2008, 08:59 PM
just because i havent seen it doesnt change that I'm probably right

No, it doesn't mean you are wrong. But actually seeing the film under discussion goes a long way in convincing people to consider your thoughts, right or wrong. Especially in a discussion that addresses specific scenes regularly, such as turtles and impaling scenes. A broken watch is right twice a day, doesn't mean it isn't broken.

3/6
11-30-2008, 09:02 PM
No, it doesn't mean you are wrong. But actually seeing the film under discussion goes a long way in convincing people to consider your thoughts, right or wrong. Especially in a discussion that addresses specific scenes regularly, such as turtles and impaling scenes. A broken watch is right twice a day, doesn't mean it isn't broken.

hahaha BURRRNNNNED!!!


CH isnt that bad of a movie, the acting is really good imo, seems very real to me.
its not the best movie, but ive seen worse..
the music really sets the mood to IMO

strtfghtr
11-30-2008, 09:39 PM
ok ill watch the movie tomorrow then report back...


I just know what I've read on it and 99% of the reviews are that it is a gore fest that the director tries to slap some social commentary on...I guess they could be wrong though

I'll give it a chance

Cataclysm
11-30-2008, 10:01 PM
I don't know what the hell brought on the discussion of people believing "if it did it first then its the best" since at no point has that been said or even mentioned in any reply. Not to mention the fact that no one has even said Cannibal Holocaust was the first cannibal movie. Not once. Hell, no one even said anything that could lead a person to that conclusion.

Then the whole bashing of a movie without even seeing it...

I think I need to go take some aspirin and lay down, because the stupidity in this thread has certainly given me a headache.

Metapher
12-01-2008, 12:44 AM
I just know what I've read on it and 99% of the reviews are that it is a gore fest that the director tries to slap some social commentary on...I guess they could be wrong though

I'm glad that you don't get your own opinion on films. I also think it's very cool that I've avoided so many bad reviews since there is no way 99% of the reviews are bad to a film that has around 6/10 on IMDb, and a film that's loved to pieces by everyone I know.

3/6
12-01-2008, 12:50 AM
ok ill watch the movie tomorrow then report back...


I just know what I've read on it and 99% of the reviews are that it is a gore fest that the director tries to slap some social commentary on...I guess they could be wrong though

I'll give it a chance

gorefest???? i wouldent say all that..DEAD ALIVE(brain dead) is a gorefest, CH i wouldnt say is a gorefest..

j-vc
12-01-2008, 03:05 AM
I havent seen Cannibal Holocaust but based on reviews and insights from various books I'm going to assume it is probably a overrated, poorly acted, poorly written, mediocrely directed film.I think you've been reading the wrong reviews. Have you dealt with the genre very much? I have some experience with the subgenre, and CH is without a doubt in my mind the best made film of the bunch. Deodato's earlier film Jungle Holocaust is, for my money, probably the second best film to come out of the movement - so the guy has a great batting average in the genre and he produced a few more brilliant films as well. Live Like A Cop, Die Like a Man is an awesome Italian crime flick. House On the Edge of the Park is one of the absolute best home-invasion based horrors out there. Cut and Run is a pretty good cult action film as well. Deodato wasn't just a one-hit and then gone director and although the moral 'message' of the film can be accused of simply overlapping a conventional piece of exploitation - it is handled with much more maturity than the likes of say Cannibal Ferox (which I like, but is simply a goofy shocker in my opinion).

The fantastic on-location scenery, great cinematography and the brilliant score provided by Riz Ortolani make it more than just your average "on a set, shot in Italy, full of a million pieces of stock footage" gore laden Italian cannibal flick.

slimeisacharacter
12-01-2008, 03:06 AM
ok ill watch the movie tomorrow then report back...


I just know what I've read on it and 99% of the reviews are that it is a gore fest that the director tries to slap some social commentary on...I guess they could be wrong though

I'll give it a chance

I doubt your opinion of the film will change. But at least you'll have something to back your opinions besides "I read a review that said this..". :hi5:

txjeff07
12-01-2008, 03:28 AM
It wasn't a gory flick, I just felt it had some parts that seemed unecessary and I'm not talking about the animal killings. But I guess it could be considered groundbreaking for the time it came out. Like I said before it's just aight imo but horror fans should check it at least once

strtfghtr
12-01-2008, 06:20 AM
thanks for setting me straight fellas I'll never bash a movie I've never seen before again.

Hey you guys better head over to the Upcoming horror section and let people know not to bash movie that havent come out yet too.

For the record I told you what I EXPECT the movie would be like...not not what it IS like. If the movie is in fact great it will change my opinion like movies I've doubted before.

Metapher
12-01-2008, 06:41 AM
You can bash a movie you haven't seen, but what you did was pretty much saying that the directing, acting and writing probably sucks. That's not at all the same as what people bash upcoming flicks for. That's just pure assbehavior right there.

steelba
12-01-2008, 01:13 PM
well thats just the way Strt is :smokin2:

1stindoor
12-01-2008, 02:40 PM
Just found this thread. What's funny is I just discovered this site earlier today and immediately registered. What makes it even stranger is that I'm currently watching Cannibal Holocaust on my portable DVD player as I'm working. Elsewhere in Indiana a woman burns her hand in the kitchen...coincidence?

rotten_zombie
12-05-2008, 10:36 AM
movie is awesome. feel sorry for the animals.

C.H.U.D.
12-24-2008, 03:40 AM
the turtle population is outta control anyway.

Moar Brains
12-24-2008, 09:03 AM
Very good film. Extremely intense. Many people have gotten sick watching the movie with me, haha. Anyhow, it has a really good sountrack as well.

FreddyFreakChica17
12-30-2008, 04:30 PM
It might not be a great film for a number of different reasons, but it certainly isn't overrated. The problem is that with everything being released over the years, people have just become desensitized to all of the violence and shock value this film possesses. It's nothing new, nothing we haven't already seen, or in some way experienced through another film; but it is the first of it's kind.
What I liked most about this film was that it was made during an era where censorship was lax; horror films were violent, gritty, and unapologetic. If they offended you, then it was just too bad. It was from an era of film making that doesn't exist anymore and never will. The special effects were great for the time, it was violent, offensive, and underneath it all was a social commentary on civilization that is still relevant today. Sure it wasn't a perfect film, and not exactly something you might want to watch over and over, but for what it was, it achieved it's goal which is why it is discussed to this day.


I couldn't agree more, Lady Frankenstein. While I too feel the animal deaths were unnecessary, I liked this film over all. It shocked me, it was intense and unapologetic. I also enjoyed the social commentary, and didn't think it was tacked on there at all. I don't know if I could watch it again, but it is worth seeing at least once for all horror fans.

psycho
01-30-2009, 02:37 PM
has anyone heard if cannibal is being made the sequel to Holocaust.

C.H.U.D.
01-30-2009, 09:09 PM
has anyone heard if cannibal is being made the sequel to Holocaust.

I have no idea what you just said. Is that haiku or something?

opterasis
01-31-2009, 12:56 PM
A great movie that should be seen at least once. I always wondered if the supposed piranha bait scene was ever deemed to exist. Does anyone else know about this rumour? I "heard" a scene was filmed where a native was tied to a board and floated out into the water where he gets devoured by piranha. It was ultimately cut with some saying it was too gory, others saying it was real, and then that it never existed.

From what I've read, theres only production stills of it, no actual film because they couldn't get an underwater camera to work properly.

Metapher
01-31-2009, 04:50 PM
I have no idea what you just said. Is that haiku or something?

I think I managed to understand what he said.
He either asked if Cannibals will be the sequel to Cannibal Holocaust.
OR he asked if anyone knows how the production on Cannibals, the sequel to Cannibal Holocaust, is going.

(http://www.horror-movies.ca/albums/userpics/poster_CANNIBALS_2009_FINISH.jpg)

Sutter Kane
02-03-2009, 04:34 PM
Watched it with some friends and it was one of the most uncomfortable movies to endure. Everyone was cringing, very harsh depictions of rape and animal cruelty. A unique viewing experience but not one that I want to repeat, and I say that as a Takashi Miike fan.

Don't watch this movie with your girlfriend or significant other. The part with the turtle being hacked to death was particularly gruesome

WarBeast
02-04-2009, 03:04 AM
One of my favorite movies from that era... definately my favorite of the Cannibal sub-genre.

The animal scenes never bothered me whatsoever. I grew in a rural setting, I saw all kinds of animals killed, gutted, skinned, butchered, cooked and sent on a one-way trip to my digestive system... hell, the turtle scene made me hungry... Turtle is damn fine eatin'!!!

I think it also teaches a valuable lesson: If you go film a documentary on a cannibal tribe, DON'T go out of your way to PISS THEM OFF!!!

WarBeast
02-04-2009, 03:07 AM
Don't watch this movie with your girlfriend or significant other.

Hell, back when we were first dating, my future-wife bought me Cannibal Holocaust and Cannibal Ferox for our first Valentine's Day together... we sat in together in my recliner (my one piece of furniture at the time) and watched both of them back-to-back... it was romantic.

Sutter Kane
02-04-2009, 05:01 PM
Cannibal Ferox! thats the one with the 2 girls singing while the guy tied to a pole gets castrated. Ewww! :thumbup3:

Lemmywinks
02-04-2009, 05:44 PM
Been wondering if I should finally see this i'm kinda leaning towards not.

Gilly
02-04-2009, 08:14 PM
Meh, it was an ok movie. Cheesey and brutal. Can't really go that wrong.

nite_zombie
02-06-2009, 10:29 AM
It was okay. the only real shocking animal scene was the turtle which imo its wrong for animals to be tortured for entertainment purposes anyway. the impalement scene wasnt that disturbing. the music was pretty cool. The scene where they cut dudes dick off was fucked up, lol. Im just now watching cannibal ferox for the first time. Im only half way through it and so far im liking holocaust a bit better.

nite_zombie
02-06-2009, 10:33 AM
Is Cannibal Apocalypse worth checking out?

darknessfalls
02-06-2009, 12:43 PM
This movie is worth a watch. Its a little overrated but it's good.

perhan
02-23-2009, 08:00 PM
it's not a very good movie imo, the animal killings weren't all as bad as people make them out to be..

And they ate most of the animal they had killed.


The "Feast" of its age.

You couldn`t been more wrong.



Did anyone else saw this movie as a critic of capitalistic society?

slimeisacharacter
02-24-2009, 03:06 AM
You couldn`t been more wrong.

Did anyone else saw this movie as a critic of capitalistic society?

Thats your opinion. To each their own, of course.

Capitalize or human nature in general, its a mix up.