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Grendel
02-07-2009, 02:53 PM
February 8, 2009
Rodriguez Tested Positive for Steroids in ’03
By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT

The New York Yankees star Alex Rodriguez tested positive for steroids in 2003, the year he won both the American League home run title and Most Valuable Player award when playing for the Texas Rangers, two people with knowledge of the results said on Saturday.

According to Sports Illustrated, which first reported the positive test results on its Web site on Saturday, the 33-year-old Rodriguez was among 104 players on a list who tested positive for performance-enhancing substances — in his case for testosterone and an anabolic steroid known by the brand name Primobolan.

All of the sources spoke on the condition of anonymity because they did not want to jeopardize their access to sensitive information.

A publicist for Rodriguez did not return a telephone message seeking comment on Saturday. The Yankees declined to comment on their controversial third baseman, who with an annual salary opf $28 million is the highest paid player in baseball.

When questioned by a reporter for Sports Illustrated at a gym in Miami on Thursday, Rodriguez said, “You’ll have to talk to the union.” Asked if there was an explanation for his positive test, he said, "I’m not saying anything."

Calls from Sports Illustrated to the head of the players union, Donald Fehr, were not returned.The use of steroids has been the central dilemma confronting the sport over the last several years, and the disclosure that one of its superstars tested positive six years ago unsettles baseball’s already shaky legitimacy.

Baseball began testing for steroids in 2003, Rodriguez’s last year with the Texas Rangers, but at the time there was no punishment for a positive test. The Rangers traded him to the Yankees before the 2004 season, when penalties for positive tests went into effect.

Rodriguez, who hit 47 home runs in 2003 and has 553 career home runs, has steadfastly denied he ever used steroids or human growth hormone.

Rodriguez’s name, according to Sports Illustrated, appears on a list of 104 players who tested positive for performance-enhancers in a 2003 baseball survey. The 2003 test results were supposed to be anonymous and destroyed. Many of the test results, however, were not destroyed, and they were seized by federal agents in 2004 as part of the investigation into the Bay Area Laboratory Co-operative.

The magazine said that according to four unidentified sources, Rodriguez tested positive for testosterone and an anabolic steroid known by the brand name Primobolan.

Last year, Rodriguez was forced to confront accusations from the former player José Canseco that Rodriguez had used steroids. In Canseco’s second book on steroids in baseball, “Vindicated,” Canseco wrote that in the late 1990s he introduced Rodriguez to a trainer he identified as Max who was a “fan of steroids.” Canseco said that Max, later told him that Rodriguez had “signed on.”

When the book came out last year, Rodriguez denied Canseco’s assertions.

The 2003 test results were supposed to remain anonymous and were supposed to be destroyed, but the federal agents likely still had them because the results were connected to the Balco investigation.

In a December 2007 interview on CBS’s “60 Minutes” with Katie Couric, Rodriguez flatly denied that he ever used steroids or human growth hormone.

“For the record, have you ever used steroids, human growth hormone or any other performance-enhancing substance?” Couric asked.

“No,” Rodriguez said.

Rodriguez said he never felt tempted to use the substances.

“You never felt like, ‘This guy’s doing it, maybe I should look into this, too? He’s getting better numbers, playing better ball,’“ Couric asked.

“I’ve never felt overmatched on the baseball field. I’ve always been a very strong, dominant position. And I felt that if I did my work as I’ve done since I was, you know, a rookie back in Seattle, I didn’t have a problem competing at any level. So, no.”The Full SI story can be seen here (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/02/07/alex-rodriguez-steroids/index.html).

A-Rod has taken a beating in NY since he arrived there and this ensures nothing is going to change any time soon...

IKickAssForTheLord
02-07-2009, 03:39 PM
Geeez.... What is baseball comin' to. Can't trust anybody in that sport.

Get Some
02-07-2009, 03:51 PM
doesnt really surprise me.....i think just about every major star has taken steroids at one point

skybrick
02-07-2009, 06:59 PM
Its sad that the MLB kept it hidden and the government had to come out and say "yeah, ARod took steroids"

cmurdur
02-07-2009, 07:10 PM
Jesus Christ. Who can you trust anymore?

HEKTIK15
02-07-2009, 09:09 PM
:axekill:just another reason for me to hate the Yankees !!!! MCL.

Lemmywinks
02-08-2009, 03:43 AM
Yeah fairly noticeable his stats aren't up to par and nobody will even sign Barry Bonds. I can only watch baseball when the playoffs start it is just so tainted. I still feel Bonds records should be removed no hall of fame for him and Pete Rose should be welcomed in to the hall with open arms. Yeah he bet on it outside but he played the game honestly. A dead beat dad and drug addict Lawrence Taylor is in the NFL hall of fame. You should be allowed to get in for how you played on the field not what you do off of it.To my knowledge atleast L.T. never took steroids during his career.

BiggNewt
02-08-2009, 07:12 AM
Horrible news for the sport of baseball, it could have been something great as A-Rod broke records after records, now they will be a nuisance. Funny thing is Jose Canseco looks like a damned genius, he told us a long time ago, we just didn't believe hiim.

ReD
02-08-2009, 08:08 PM
On one hand its good that the exposure is out there for these guys that way you sorta have an update on whose who in the game.

On the other hand, it almost sometimes feels like these things boil down to witch hunts and as long as some report comes out or a name comes out of nowhere to accuse the said person. It automatically sticks to them.

I like justice being served but sometimes I feel like any Joe schmo can come out of nowhere and say 'he did this or that' and that person all of a sudden has to rebuild his rep whether he is innocent or not.

Aurone
02-08-2009, 08:29 PM
Well, if MLB drops him, he could still join wrestling, Roids are just as big in Pro Wrestling as it is in MLB.

H78
02-09-2009, 02:33 PM
Well, if MLB drops him, he could still join wrestling, Roids are just as big in Pro Wrestling as it is in MLB.

They're much, much bigger in pro wrestling.

koolmike
02-09-2009, 06:37 PM
Never liked Roidriguez.

Baseball is going through a cleansing that I hope will end soon. Roids and HGH and their equivalents have no business in competative sports. Weed out the abusers and start fresh.

Grendel
02-10-2009, 10:37 PM
Not to simply regurgitate the latest Jim Rome show, but the people who are giving this guy credit for going on with Gammons and admitting "banned substances" make me a little ill.

He came forward after both lying on 60 Minutes and then getting caught. Don't deserve "credit" for that, in my book...

Revenant
02-11-2009, 12:17 AM
Wonder who else was on that report, or are we just gonna bust arguably the MLB's best player..

cmurdur
02-11-2009, 12:22 AM
The only players that should ever be forgiven by the fans are the ones who confess to taking performance enhancing drugs before someone has proof. A-Rod is just one of two types of liars. He is the one who says, "No. I never did that." Then once they find out he did and have proof, he fesses up. Then there's the second type of liar. The one who constantly denies it, and once proof is brought up, they continue to lie and deny.

Elduardo
02-11-2009, 07:24 AM
Until there's a test for HGH in baseball then we really won't know who's clean and who isn't.

Until they start dying off.

koolmike
02-11-2009, 08:58 AM
Until there's a test for HGH in baseball then we really won't know who's clean and who isn't.

Until they start dying off.


HGH is only a threat when taken in large doses. If the pros decided to take smaller doses, not only wil they live, but detecting it will be almost impossible.


Found this in some medical journal:

Benefits of Homeopathic HGH-

- Homeopathic HGH, when taken in small doses, does wonders in a human body. A small dose has sufficient active ingredients that are needed to stimulate the 'healing processes in a body.

- The best thing about homeopathic HGH is that it has no side effects. Its natural herbal ingredients cure the disease conveniently.

- It helps in homeostasis. In this process, the pituitary glands are encouraged to supplement and release growth hormones to balance the body.

- Small amount of homeopathic HGH should be taken at regular intervals. This is one of the prime principles of homeopathy. It is believed that this method works better.

- Homeopathic HGH is effective and very safe. Taking homeopathic products does not put health at stake. It is like taking in something that is not foreign or new to the system and the body.

- It enhances the functions of nervous, immune, and metabolic systems.

- It reduces joint pains.

- It helps in increasing body mass in lean structure and in reducing fat.

With all the benefits and negligible side effects, one should always remember that homeopathy is a controversial practice that could lead to the violation of commonly held principles and beliefs of physiology and pharmacology.

It is always advisable to buy homeopathic HGH from vendors who have lab verses approved by FDA and who strictly follows all the guidelines set by FDA. FDA has periodic inspections, when they check that every bottle of homeopathic HGH has an expiry date and has been stamped with a lot number. This is one way by which you can check whether the vendor has been approved by FDA or not. FDA also advices the vendors not to describe their customers, the products in respect to nana grams. But when looking for homeopathic HGH, you should always look out for 'homeopathic HGH 30X' on the list of ingredients.

Results might vary from one person to another. Some may feel that they have been benefited a little in a span of six months, while some may even look ten to twenty years younger. It is always advisable to consult a doctor before actually consuming the 'fountain of youth'.

snapicus
02-11-2009, 09:05 AM
They're much, much bigger in pro wrestling.

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/s/scottsteiner/28.jpg

Agrees

C.H.U.D.
02-13-2009, 06:51 PM
I knew there was a reason I never liked baseball. The only time I ever payed attention was when the home run record madness was setting in. Turns out those guys were all juiced anyway.

In a game where you don't beat the shit outta eachother, this drug scandel is even more disturbing. Although it's not right, I can see why Football players or Hockey players would take steroids...but baseball???

Oh well, it's a shitty sport anyway.

Grendel
02-14-2009, 02:09 PM
In a game where you don't beat the shit outta eachother, this drug scandel is even more disturbing. Although it's not right, I can see why Football players or Hockey players would take steroids...but baseball???What's difficult to see? You can train longer, harder, and overcome injury.

You look at the numbers of the players in question, it's hard to deny it gives an advantage.

skybrick
02-17-2009, 04:28 AM
Baseball is all about the records too especially the home-run title.
I agree baseball is not the best sport. Its faulty and lacks excitement.

pastor_ice43
02-17-2009, 07:17 PM
Big deal. He did the roids when it wasn't against policy. Boohoo get over it.

skybrick
02-17-2009, 09:16 PM
Big deal. He did the roids when it wasn't against policy. Boohoo get over it.

Your blind my friend. My point being it makes faulty records. This is a huge deal and its a shame that great players like Hank Aaron are getting screwed like this. I am sure his record would still be intact if the roid era never happened. Money comes and goes but the records and championships is what a lot of people play baseball for

HEKTIK15
02-17-2009, 11:30 PM
They should take away anyones stats for the duration of the roids.......come on they take away olympic medals.....thats more valuable than 40 homers for a season. The biggest problem is these guys that did roids after time will "probably" end up making it in the hall of fame...but poor Pete Rose will never because he gambled he didnt roid or beat his wife . Rose was one of the greatest players who hustled and played the game for what it was supposed to be.......and to some have tarnished the game for what he did......give me a break. MCL.

Lemmywinks
02-18-2009, 03:03 AM
Then there's the second type of liar. The one who constantly denies it, and once proof is brought up, they continue to lie and deny.

A nice biography of Barry Bonds.

pastor_ice43
02-19-2009, 07:40 PM
Your blind my friend. My point being it makes faulty records. This is a huge deal and its a shame that great players like Hank Aaron are getting screwed like this. I am sure his record would still be intact if the roid era never happened. Money comes and goes but the records and championships is what a lot of people play baseball for

I wasn't replying directly to you, I was just saying in general. He was on roids for two years....and he has been one of the greatest baseball players of all time for many more. Him using the steroids in a period when they weren't against policy is no different then someone using Creatine now, and that going against policy 5 years from now. The fact that he used steroids for two years doesn't take away his talent all the other years.

Grendel
02-19-2009, 08:47 PM
Him using the steroids in a period when they weren't against policy is no different then someone using Creatine now, and that going against policy 5 years from now. The fact that he used steroids for two years doesn't take away his talent all the other years. I'm not sure how many people equate those two substances that way.

There's a reason no one who got caught--or anyone simply admitted using--and justified it by saying, "it wasn't against the rules, then."

No, steroids weren't banned but, regardless, there's no one who doesn't still regard it as obvious cheating. The fact of A-Roid's talent in other years doesn't take away from the lack of character he showed by using in the first place and then subsequently lying about it.

pastor_ice43
02-20-2009, 12:42 AM
I'm not sure how many people equate those two substances that way.

There's a reason no one who got caught--or anyone simply admitted using--and justified it by saying, "it wasn't against the rules, then."

No, steroids weren't banned but, regardless, there's no one who doesn't still regard it as obvious cheating. The fact of A-Roid's talent in other years doesn't take away from the lack of character he showed by using in the first place and then subsequently lying about it.

Granted steroids obviously provide a much greater enhancement in performance then what creatine does, but look at it from a Body Building competition standpoint. The fact is creatine can still give you the edge by allowing you to lift longer and more often then the next guy, but that doesn't mean that if the substance is ever banned, people who used it while it was legal should be chastised for it. Of course the guy is gonna lie about it, the obvious backlash is apparent. Don't get me wrong, I'm not condoning the roid use, and by all means, take away any awards and prestige from those 2 years....but beyond that, recognize the man's talent and everything he's done in past 6 years that he WASN'T doing steroids and leave him alone.