Sony PS4 talk

[strtfghtr]

Sony has said they expect the PS3 to stick around for about 10 years, but that doesnt mean they can hold off development of their next console

http://kotaku.com/5435384/report-sony-working-on-multi+core-design-for-ps4

They could be abandoning their cell processor in favor of a multicore design, more common in PCs of today.

Not a big surprise to me as Sony has been getting complaints from developer since the PS3 was introduced about the difficulty of programing for the system.

What features do you want or hope carry over from the PS3?

[WarBeast]

I remember years ago, when the PS2 had just come out, the CEO of Sony predicted that the PS5 or PS6 would utilize Bio-Chip technology... organic processors and shit.. Woot!

[steelba]

Way too soon for me to care about a PS4.

[strtfghtr]

stay on top of the wave of technology or be swept away

Personally, I'd love to see 2 big things carry over on the PS4:

1. backwards compatibility (not just software but hardware as well...there's no reason not to be able to use the PS3 bluetooth controlers) as well as transferring all the PSN games and stuff I have on my PS3

2. the continued use of bluray and dvd playback

[steelba]

stay on top of the wave of technology or be swept away

Personally, I'd love to see 2 big things carry over on the PS4:

1.there's no reason not to be able to use the PS3 bluetooth controlers)k

you can forget that.

[strtfghtr]

I think that would be one area sony can actually save money, nintendo kept the ability to use Gamecube controllers on the wii and it lead to companies going back to start making gamecube controllers again because there was a demand for it. Actually you CAN use PS2 controllers on the PS3 you just have to get an adapter...sony just made it a pain in the butt, all they had to do was add the ports or include the adapters with the systems.

[IrishG3nt]

Yea but it wouldn't save SONY money really...if they give the consumer the ability to use old equipment on their newer model they would lose money...with a new system comes new add ons...you need a new controller for the new system and new wireless connection adapter etc...blah blah blah...it is a money triangle...it is all about money money money...

[strtfghtr]

nintendo didnt seem to lose any money by allowing their old controllers to work...people still bought a shitload of the new style controllers as well as continued to buy the old.

[IrishG3nt]

very true...i guess if they made an adapter(i.e. one time purchase) to use all the older equip on the new they'd still make money...i don't know I have xbox 360..not a fanboy at all...so if ps4 came out i am sure i'd buy it...only if it was insanely priced!

[Aurone]

I don't even have a PS3 yet since they're just now getting to reasonable price. Sony needs to take more time with this one and make sure the kinks are worked out, not to menchion have a better selling strategy then they did with there current system.

[3/6]

ps4 :rock:

[Shreds_of_Flesh]

Just please make a transfer of PSN games easy.

[Luris Blear]

Console manufacturers make the most of their cash by selling the license to use their console. That's why they frequently sell new hardware at a loss.

The original Playstation rampaged all over their competition by being easy to program for, on top of all its other perks. Sega had much nicer games at the time, and Nintendo has always been the go-to machine for the whole family. Manufacturers on that first Playstation had the chance to create a "wow" factor with ease of programming, then put it on a cd for much less overhead/more profit than the dying cartridge format. (Talking consoles here only.)

Game makers took bigger risks, and some of them paid off with kickass games. There is less room for a bigger risk when more time has to be spent fumbling through a harsher programming environment.

I would also like to see Sony take a break from pushing a hardware agenda. The price is great for a combination console/cool new media player as the last two systems have been. At this point, they should be fine sticking with Blu-Ray and trying not to hop on the Wii bandwagon.

I'll make my last point there: Sony and Microsoft got beat to the motion control department. This happened in large part because this is not the kind of game either console really caters to. No one is clamoring for Halo Halo Revolution. My biggest fear is that Sony is going to again neglect its programmers and drive up the price of its system, this time by trying and probably failing to play second fiddle to the WiiMote.

Give the programmers some breathing room, and give our wallets a break. Backward compatibility to PS3 will be a huge bonus. Maybe then I'll come back for PS4.

[WarBeast]

Console manufacturers make the most of their cash by selling the license to use their console. That's why they frequently sell new hardware at a loss.

The original Playstation rampaged all over their competition by being easy to program for, on top of all its other perks. Sega had much nicer games at the time, and Nintendo has always been the go-to machine for the whole family. Manufacturers on that first Playstation had the chance to create a "wow" factor with ease of programming, then put it on a cd for much less overhead/more profit than the dying cartridge format. (Talking consoles here only.)

Game makers took bigger risks, and some of them paid off with kickass games. There is less room for a bigger risk when more time has to be spent fumbling through a harsher programming environment.

I would also like to see Sony take a break from pushing a hardware agenda. The price is great for a combination console/cool new media player as the last two systems have been. At this point, they should be fine sticking with Blu-Ray and trying not to hop on the Wii bandwagon.

I'll make my last point there: Sony and Microsoft got beat to the motion control department. This happened in large part because this is not the kind of game either console really caters to. No one is clamoring for Halo Halo Revolution. My biggest fear is that Sony is going to again neglect its programmers and drive up the price of its system, this time by trying and probably failing to play second fiddle to the WiiMote.

Give the programmers some breathing room, and give our wallets a break. Backward compatibility to PS3 will be a huge bonus. Maybe then I'll come back for PS4.

I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said here... Speaking from my own personal experience, I bought the Wii first and while I really enjoy playing it, I got a bit tired of every fucking game being workout. Eventually, I started really wanting a standard gaming experience, and I went for the PS3.... the Wii now sits sort of neglected and gets most of its use when I have friends over for a party or something like that.

Don't get me wrong, the Wii is a damn enjoyable system with the right type of games... the sports, bowling, and that sort of shit is a blast... and Metroid showed me how fucking righteous the Wii can be for first person shooters, but saddly, Nintendo is so skittish about mature titles, that they haven't really cashed in on that market...

I will say that the PS3 could have done better with a redesign of their controllers and I hope the PS4 does so... I didn't really know how lackluster the PS3 controller was until I bought a 360 controller for my PC... that is a damn fine controller..

[C.H.U.D.]

...there's no reason not to be able to use the PS3 bluetooth controlers



Assuming the PS4 uses the same tired controller design. Microsoft evolved their controller after 1 generation. As it stands, the 360 controller trumps the Dualshock ver.17 in my opinion.

[WarBeast]

Assuming the PS4 uses the same tired controller design. Microsoft evolved their controller after 1 generation. As it stands, the 360 controller trumps the Dualshock ver.17 in my opinion.

as I said in my ealier post, I totally agree... I think PS3 is a better console, but 360's controllers are fuckin righteous compared to PS3's same old shit.. Sony needs to get wit it and poll the players on what they like and dislike about current and past controllers, do some fuckin research and make a controller that handles so well that you want to fuck it.

[strtfghtr]

I hear what you're saying warbeast and I agree, Sony should revamp their controler but they still should retain compatability with the PS3 ones. As far as I'm concernred the Dual shock 3 is no different than the original dual shock.

Since DLC and gameing downloads are becoming bigger and bigger I think retaining all their PSN downloads and records is almost required, it would be a shame to lose all that content just because of a console upgrade

[strtfghtr]

I hear what you're saying warbeast and I agree, Sony should revamp their controler but they still should retain compatability with the PS3 ones. As far as I'm concernred the Dual shock 3 is no different than the original dual shock.

Since DLC and gameing downloads are becoming bigger and bigger I think retaining all their PSN downloads and records is almost required, it would be a shame to lose all that content just because of a console upgrade

[slimeisacharacter]

I hope I won't have to upgrade my PS3 any time soon.... But, if I had a say on what features a PS4 would have here are a few:

1. A massive push for PS1 and PS2 games to shift to downloadable content from the PSN. Most, if not all, of the older games could turn a nice profit as DL content. FF7 and Resident Evil aren't the only games people like to take down memory lane.

2. User friendly method of transfering gamer profile from PS3 to PS4. I would like to move my trophies and saved games to the newer system and not have to spend an extra $60-$90 for some accessory to do it.

3. Continued use of Blu-ray tech.

4. Alot of Gig standard, not offered as some special version. 20-60g on a console system is a joke these days with pictures, netflicks, game memory requirements, ect. Get with the program.

5. Useful games at launch. No one wants to buy a new console that only has 1 good game for the first 6 months. Talk to game developers and plan shit out so you have a selection at or within 2 months of launch.

6. Update the controler setup. Come on Sony, you know the common complaints regarding the PS2 and PS3 controlers. Take a few days off making a console slim and take a second glance at your hands.

7. Continued use of current controller power system. One thing I always loved Sony for that I knock Xbox on is control power supply. No batteries needed, all internal and rechargable. Yea, you can get the Xbox rechargables but thats not the point. We are far enough along that we shouldn't need batteries to use a console. Batteries are for handhelds like PSP and DS.

[smokey]

Well shit me i only just got my ps3! ha ha

[Rust In Peace]

I still think they should have released that PS3 controller redesign that was originally supposed to come with the system. Maybe not as the official controller, but a stand alone controller you could go out and buy. As for the PS4, too early to think about seriously for me.

[UzumakiW]

I'm still pretty content with my PS3 to care about a PS4.

And as for the controllers, I still love the design on them. Fits perfectly. As that one saying goes; 'Don't fix it if it isn't broken.'

[strtfghtr]

There's always room for improvement, and while we are all enjoying our PS3s right now sony is hard at work building and developing the PS4. A little speculation and wishlisting never hurt anyone.

[C.H.U.D.]

Well shit me i only just got my ps3! ha ha

Ditto!

Just heard something about an xbox360 "slim" as well...with Natal being inside of the thing!

[Rust In Peace]

Hmm well at least this means they'll put a lot of time and effort into the next system if people are already talking about it. Microsoft would be wise to do the same to avoid all the hardware problems the 360 has and had. But yes I'm perfectly happy with my PS3 right now, and will stay happy with it for the next couple of years.

[steelba]

And as for the controllers, I still love the design on them. Fits perfectly. As that one saying goes; 'Don't fix it if it isn't broken.'
Agreed, and I never liked the Xbox's controllers.

[Freddy316]

I don't buy consoles at launch anymore so I don't care when the PS4 comes out, I probably won't buy it until at least a year or two after it launches. Besides, I don't see myself getting bored with the PS3 anytime soon, so many great games.

But I do agree with WarBeast in that Sony needs to get with it and change their controller design. I find the Xbox 360 controller to have a better layout and it fits my hands better. I wish there was a way to use the 360 controller on the PS3.

[Shreds_of_Flesh]

I wanna argue the hell out of the whole controller BS but F it......I seriously hope they don't change the Dual Shock.