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    Quote Originally Posted by koolmike View Post
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    The Halloween franchise is a flop IMO because they abused the fuck out of the original idea. Only so far you can take a masked man with a knife.

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    surprised he didnt wear the shorts

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReDPATH View Post
    Only one problem.

    Josh Hartnett was a nobody in 1998.

    5-6 years later, no way barring overpaying for him would he come back to the series.
    Bah. He's not that big of an actor now even. How much was he payed for 30 Days Of Night?

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    I don't know how much he was payed for 30 Days of Night, but I do know in the next two Sin City sequels he's gonna have a much meatier role.

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    Koolmike, a masked man with a knife has been the centerpiece of countless horror movies between the eighties and today, how can you question how far it can be taken? It'll still be going on when we're telling our grandkids they don't make them like they used to. They hit a goldmine with the concept of the masked killer, the found one thing that would scare absolutely everyone encountered by it - especially when they started making the killers fucking invincible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASoron0424 View Post
    Koolmike, a masked man with a knife has been the centerpiece of countless horror movies between the eighties and today, how can you question how far it can be taken?
    The question of this thread is, "What went wrong?" basically.

    You just said it...countless of masked men with knives killing teenagers. It's been done to death...no originality. I never said the masked man with the knife wouldn't sell. It's just friggin' overdone and boring. That's what I meant by how far can it be taken?

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    Quote Originally Posted by koolmike View Post
    The question of this thread is, "What went wrong?" basically.

    You just said it...countless of masked men with knives killing teenagers. It's been done to death...no originality. I never said the masked man with the knife wouldn't sell. It's just friggin' overdone and boring. That's what I meant by how far can it be taken?
    Well, okay, yeah, I misinterpreted what you said, sorry - but now that it's been clarified I think I can still counter that. It's really just a matter of what the writer and director do with the material, the masked knifeman can always be made scary again if managed well.

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    Well for all intent and purposes.

    Micheal is the only masked killer that repetitively uses a kitchen knife and kills teenagers. Freddy used dreams and his claw to dispatch his victims.

    Jason was the king of kings. Sure they gave him a staple weapon in the machete but by far he was the master of adding variety to his rep with so many different and unique ways of dispatching people. Crushing them with his hands, chewing up Dr. Crews with a weedwhacker, smashing a bitch up against a tree in a sleeping bag, etc.

    Jason was the end all, be all in that regard. Throughout the Friday the 13th series. Savini and others always found ways to make Jason creative. Sure Micheal was first, but Jason was far more innovative IMO and Freddy wasnt nearly as boring killwise either IMO.

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    That's a really good point, ReDPATH, but Michael wasn't as mundane in his kills as you make him out to be. He uses a garden hoe in Halloween 4, he's crushed the skulls of many men, he broke the neck of the dog in the first one, he impaled a cop w/ a shotgun in the fourth - he's got a decent variety going, to say the least.

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    The whole masked man with any weapon has been shamelessly overdone.

    Movies like Maniac and American Psycho provoked thought on top of fear which is always a welcomed relief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koolmike View Post
    The whole masked man with any weapon has been shamelessly overdone.

    Movies like Maniac and American Psycho provoked thought on top of fear which is always a welcomed relief.
    hahaha, I like hearing that, nobody mentions American Psycho.

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