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    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai View Post
    I know that these episodes are meant to be all about the beginning of the end but fucking hell, they've all been so fucking boring. The last one was yet another snoozefest. Honk picks up Josse, Skylard whinges, Josse runs away from Wilt. The end. Fucking boooooooooooring. Also. the writing has become sloppy, this programme used to sparkle with great dialogue but now it's nothing more than a series of monosyllabic grunts. Crap episode from start to finish.
    Sorry there were no explosions or tokyo drift racing to satisfy your needs.


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    As for speculation on what Jesse's strategy may be, I'm going with the family theory. Jesse does hold up that Christmas photo of Walt and Skyler, so it could be foreshadowing something, or Jesse is just seeing a moment in Walt's life when he wasn't completely evil. I don't think Jesse would harm Walt's family in any way, there's been too much moral grounding established for Jesse to have that happen. Maybe he'll get Skyler to turn on Walt in some fashion? Though, it would make a lot of sense for Jesse to attack Walt's ego in some way, but seeing how there's so much heat on Walt right now, I don't think Walt would be so easily baited into an attack on his pride. I have no clue though, I can never predict this show and whatever I think will happen usually doesn't and whatever the writers come up with is far more elegant and well-thought out than I could imagine.


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    I heard an interesting theory floated last night: in a three-way confrontation, Skyler shoots Jesse and then Walt shoots Skyler.


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    I've had this odd theory rattling around in my head for a few episodes now


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    What if Walts cancer really isn't back? We've seen him go through the scans and get the meds, but we haven't seen an actual doctor say he has cancer, have we? What if he's somehow faking it, and going through treatments to help him seem sicker? Like this was his plan all along, like an end-game plan to fake his own death to get outta any obligations or trouble he may run into. Considering how far ahead Walt thinks, it's possible he could've expected trouble, so he started this long-con early. Instead of removing all obstacles in his way, he simply removes himself from the equation, which would leave his family behind, hurt, but well taken care of financially. It would also solve the issue with Hank and Jesse since they would be under the impression he died from the cancer. With Walt dead Hank has nothing; he wouldn't go after Skylar. Kind of a far out idea, with a lot of implausibilities, but you just never know with this show


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    Quote Originally Posted by FrighT MasteR View Post
    I've had this odd theory rattling around in my head for a few episodes now


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    What if Walts cancer really isn't back? We've seen him go through the scans and get the meds, but we haven't seen an actual doctor say he has cancer, have we? What if he's somehow faking it, and going through treatments to help him seem sicker? Like this was his plan all along, like an end-game plan to fake his own death to get outta any obligations or trouble he may run into. Considering how far ahead Walt thinks, it's possible he could've expected trouble, so he started this long-con early. Instead of removing all obstacles in his way, he simply removes himself from the equation, which would leave his family behind, hurt, but well taken care of financially. It would also solve the issue with Hank and Jesse since they would be under the impression he died from the cancer. With Walt dead Hank has nothing; he wouldn't go after Skylar. Kind of a far out idea, with a lot of implausibilities, but you just never know with this show

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    I mentioned that to my buddy the other day. When he first got cancer, he kept coughing up blood and was unable to speak at times. It could be that it's not as bad as before, but even I am not convinced that it's back.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarantino View Post
    I have no clue though, I can never predict this show and whatever I think will happen usually doesn't and whatever the writers come up with is far more elegant and well-thought out than I could imagine.
    Yep, exactly how I feel! Still fun to speculate though.

    Another thing to consider,


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    Marie blabbing to her therapist about all her googling on how to silently kill people with untraceable poison. She mentioned it so casually it's easy to let it slip on by but knowing this show and how they leave no detail unused, will she end up taking the wrap for whatever happens with the Ricen? Feds would have a field day with her search history, or now that the show is coming to a close are they just throwing out red herring left and right to fuck with us?


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    Quote Originally Posted by tacticalbacon View Post
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    Marie blabbing to her therapist about all her googling on how to silently kill people with untraceable poison. She mentioned it so casually it's easy to let it slip on by but knowing this show and how they leave no detail unused, will she end up taking the wrap for whatever happens with the Ricen? Feds would have a field day with her search history, or now that the show is coming to a close are they just throwing out red herring left and right to fuck with us?

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    I like your theory, Fright. That scenario's definitely compatible with the flash forward. Then it's just discovering what provokes his return. So much can happen in four episodes. The last two are supposed to be off-the-hook too. They're what Soderberg said should be shown in movie theaters.

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    this is what Walt really gave Hank on that cd

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    Hank is very much dead. The words "I love you" to his wife gave me a big clue on his passing.



    What an amazing episode tonight

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    Hank is very much dead. The words "I love you" to his wife gave me a big clue on his passing.




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    Yea, I have a feeling that either him and Gomez are going to get killed or just Gomez will get killed and Hank some how escapes. But like you said his words to Marie on the phone gives me that vibe that he'll get killed.



    Awesome episode, that ending had my heart thumping.

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    I was a little surprised to see Walt outsmarted so easily, but Jesse knew that Walt would drop everything for the money, so it makes sense. I wouldn't be surprised if Hank is seriously injured, but still alive. Like lying in a hospital bed in a coma or something along those lines, but I don't see him getting killed in that firefight. The theory about Walt using that m60 on the brotherhood in the end is looking more plausible since they're the most formidable foe for Walt (after Hank) at this point, especially after tonight's ep. Jesse I'm sure escapes the whole ordeal. Poor Huell


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    Quote Originally Posted by FrighT MasteR View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if Hank is seriously injured, but still alive. Like lying in a hospital bed in a coma or something along those lines, but I don't see him getting killed in that firefight.




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    Thing is, we already seen Hank in a hospital bed for an entire season. No point in having him get re-injured to see it again. That's why I have a feeling they're going to finish him off. My buddy has always had this theory that Walt saves his life somehow and Hank drops everything against Walt. It could really go either way at this point.


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    First time I've been disappointed by an episode. It was great up until the very last scene. Amazing tension. But the way it was staged was complete bullshit for what happens before the the end credits roll.


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    Hank and Gomez not hitting shit, since Hank has a pistol and Gomez has a shotgun, is fine and to be expected at that distance. But the Aryans were in an advantageous position with superior, long-range weapons and not a lot of range between them, plenty of time to be good and lined up on center mass, rate of fire versus reaction time, etc. Either Hank, or Gomez or both should have been dropped by the first rounds fired.

    The way it was staged they were both primed for execution, not a gunfight. They should have sought cover as soon as the guns came out or died, simple as that.

    This is, of course, playing by movie and TV rules and the fantasy that cars make for good cover from gunfire. Walt would be just as dead as Hank and Gomez if the Aryans were only firing 9mm pistols. Some of the guns the aryans were using fire rounds that would have penetrated the engine block of the truck and only been stopped or deflected by hardened steel parts like the axle maybe or a piston perhaps. If any one of them had a 50 cal rifle there's nothing that they could have hidden behind.

    But this is movie+TV land.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DMHead777 View Post


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    Thing is, we already seen Hank in a hospital bed for an entire season. No point in having him get re-injured to see it again. That's why I have a feeling they're going to finish him off. My buddy has always had this theory that Walt saves his life somehow and Hank drops everything against Walt. It could really go either way at this point.
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    Hank and Gomez not hitting shit, since Hank has a pistol and Gomez has a shotgun, is fine and to be expected at that distance. But the Aryans were in an advantageous position with superior, long-range weapons and not a lot of range between them, plenty of time to be good and lined up on center mass, rate of fire versus reaction time, etc. Either Hank, or Gomez or both should have been dropped by the first rounds fired.

    The way it was staged they were both primed for execution, not a gunfight. They should have sought cover as soon as the guns came out or died, simple as that.

    This is, of course, playing by movie and TV rules and the fantasy that cars make for good cover from gunfire. Walt would be just as dead as Hank and Gomez if the Aryans were only firing 9mm pistols. Some of the guns the aryans were using fire rounds that would have penetrated the engine block of the truck and only been stopped or deflected by hardened steel parts like the axle maybe or a piston perhaps. If any one of them had a 50 cal rifle there's nothing that they could have hidden behind.

    But this is movie+TV land.
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    Even with the bad choice of staging, there's no way for Hank and Gomez to get out of this situation alive. It's hard to imaging Jesse getting out alive either. Hank getting killed though, that's going to create a riff between he and the aryans, refusal to cook and a reason to go into hiding plus a reason to come back later for revenge.

    He doesn't look like he's been living a rich man's life in the flash-forward so we're left to assume he took off without the money or the aryans somehow get it (though, how would they know to even look?). This was the first time, that I can remember, a preview showed nothing at all from the next episode, just the voice-over.


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    Yeah, the more I thought about it the more it seems likely that Hank dies either at the firefight or sometime shortly after. It would also make it easier to wrap that particular story arch up and give us enough room to deal with the brotherhood with the remaining eps


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    I agree, I strongly suspect that Hank and Gomie are done for and Jesse will slip away by the skin of his teeth somehow. With Hank being dead, Marie will have no more reason to keep Walt's secret any longer.


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    Pretty sure the FCC has rules for ending on Cliff hangers that intense! I can not wait for the last 3 episodes!

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    To buy that huge machine gun it was to go up against Hank and the DEA. Now I am thinking it's to Avenge Hank. Those aryans had some heavy artillery, which should have ripped through everything like tin foil. I don't see Hank and Gomy getting out alive. Also those guys wanted Walt to cook for them again. If they find out his money is under neath their feet, that might give them the leverage to hold Walt under their thumb.



    brb going into a coma, till a I can watch the last episodes back to back.

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