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    Justice League

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    I still think they should introduce all the characters first before they go ahead with a group movie BUT its not like I won't be there on opening night to check it out.

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    I think they should have a Green Lantern movie, a Wonder Woman movie, and maybe a Flash movie before making a JL flick.

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    I think it would be ok just to do a JL movie. X-Men had just as many characters and didn't need previous establishing movies.

    However, I think its completely stupid to not only have someone else play Batman in JL, but to have an actor obviously younger than Christian Bale to play him. I can see a lot of dumbasses getting confused because of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BooBerry View Post
    I think it would be ok just to do a JL movie. X-Men had just as many characters and didn't need previous establishing movies.

    However, I think its completely stupid to not only have someone else play Batman in JL, but to have an actor obviously younger than Christian Bale to play him. I can see a lot of dumbasses getting confused because of this.
    yeah, but the X-men have always been a team. the JL is a group of superheroes already established coming together as a group.

    and as for Bale, him playing Batman really fucks it up because then the Nolan series and the "comic world" become joined and Nolan's movies are staying far away from other heroes.

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    I understand that Justice League is supposed to be outside of the current movie lines. (The comic book equivalent might be picking up Batman Confidential, All Star Batman & Robin, and Batman at the same time. Or perhaps Marvel Adventures: Spider-Man, Amazing Spider-Man and Ultimate Spider-Man.)

    It doesn't bother me. It wouldn't bother me even if I had any good feelings toward the Nolan series.

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    Why they should make Justice League

    I know this is movie talk, so I thought about putting this in the non horror section, but then again this movie doesn't exist and is so on again off again that it might be awhile before it actually does so I decided to put it here. I was talking to a friend today that is a huge comic book nut, and he brought up a good point. He said it was a good idea to bring in the avengers one at a time and introduce them like they did. I agreed as do most people I think. Then he said I wouldn't mind them doing that with DC but I Think they should go ahead and just make a Justice League movie.

    When I asked him why he thought he said 6 years ago or so if you went up to a random person and said "hey do you know who Ironman is?" they would either have said yeah I've heard of him or flat out said no. Had you said "Do you know who Tony Stark is?" unless they were a comic book person it would have been an obvious no. Same thing with Thor and Maybe Captain America. Sure everybodies heard of Captain America but until the movie came out the non comic book people couldn't really tell you a whole lot about him. Only one they would have really known was Hulk.

    Then he said if you walked up to a random person and said "Do you know who Superman and Batman are?" I highly doubt your going to run into many people that have no clue who you are talking about. And they may not know her real name but theres also a good bet they're gonna know who Wonder Woman is. And he said that alone is enough to carry a Justice League movie. So what the green lantern "tanked". You could save the character with a justice league flick, do some solo stuff later if people are interested. Just like Hulk was saved with The Avengers. Say what you want good or bad about the past movie. The Hulks portrayal in The Avengers was recieved in a pretty positive way by most critics. So thats just my two cents. I agreed with him on what he said. They wanna do some solo stuff first thats cool with me. But I think theres enough "name" power behind the JLA to go ahead and just make a movie.

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    I honestly don't think Justice League would work with Batman. Nolan has given the public such a strong Batman impression in people's minds it would be tough to view him (or at least a version of him similar to Nolan's) in the same universe as Supes and Wonderwoman.

    That being said I do think a lower end JL with some "lesser" characters like Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, and Cyborg teamed up with a "biggie" like Supes or Wonder Woman would work.

    I think something that would have more success is a live action Teen Titans. It would even work if they kept the tone of that cartoon show they used to have years ago...throw in a Supes cameo and you have a blockbuster.

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    no Batman would piss me off. I really enjoys Nolan's Batman movies but I don't like what they've done to Batman. They've put him in a place, like you said, in peoples minds where he wouldn't work with these other characters. The next time someone does Batman. They don't need to do their own version of him. They need to do the comic book justice.

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    I like what he did with Batman, made him real and took away all the camp. He got rid of the trash impression that Joel Schumacher and Adam West left on the American people.

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    and took away the comic book feel to it as well

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    There's no reason not to expect a dud out of this. Other than around half the Batman movies, and 70's Superman, DC movies lay eggs. Throwing all these guys together is dangerous.

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    DC 9 times out of 10 doesn't do it right in the movie department. Funny how they knock it out of the park in DVD animation but lose it in the theater flicks (most of the time)

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    I'm not sure it would make huge grosses outside of the USA as DC characters aren't that known here. Sure we know Batman and Superman and Green Lantern and Wonder woman. But finally, not that many people know that Green lantern belong to DC or even like this character. If some people appreciate Wonder woman thanks to the old tv series I'm not sure people would like to see her in a movie. many would consider her as a cheap character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Falling Rock View Post
    DC 9 times out of 10 doesn't do it right in the movie department. Funny how they knock it out of the park in DVD animation but lose it in the theater flicks (most of the time)

    Yeah, for the most part they do a great job with the animated titles. What gives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Falling Rock View Post
    DC 9 times out of 10 doesn't do it right in the movie department. Funny how they knock it out of the park in DVD animation but lose it in the theater flicks (most of the time)
    Yes I agree the animated films are great. I have high hope for the upcoming Superman film. Would like to see DC get their act together.

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    My problem is that with the exception of Superman, Batman, and recently Green Lantern nobody knows the backstory of the rest of the Justice League.

    Wonder Woman may be well known on a name basis but I promise if you ask anybody to tell you her origin they would have no idea.

    The Flash is only known as a guy who moves fast. I'm willing to bet most people wouldn't even know the names Barry Allen or Wally West.

    Aquaman is still a complete joke to most people who remember him as the guy from Superfriends.

    Martian Manhunter is a complete and total unknown to almost everybody.

    So my big problem is how do we explain who these people are and where they come from without setting up their origins and motivations first?

    Avengers got it right by taking their time and introducing the characters first and then when it came time for the movie they could jump right into their story and not worry about explaining who these people are.

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    Good point, but who would go see a Martian Manhunter film? Or any of these characters, really. I don't believe there is a big enough following for these other characters to warrant separate films for each one to create a back story before doing a Justice League film.

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    People said the same thing about the first Iron Man movie as well as the first Thor and Captain America movie.

    Can you imagine throwing together a movie where you had to explain where Iron Man got the suit, where Thor comes from, and where Captain America comes from all in the same movie?

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    Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America all have an ongoing following and were well known characters well before the mentioning of their films. I think they're just in a different league as far as mainstream comics go. I was rather excited when they started discussing these films. However, I would need to see some damned good trailers and reveiws before even considering dishing out any money to Martian Manhunter, Flash, Aqua Man, or even Wonder Woman films.

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    Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America had a following among comic book fans but anybody who didn't read comics before the movies most likely had no idea who they were.

    As far a the Justice League movie goes they would sure as hell need at least a Wonder Woman movie first since her character is so steeped in mythology that it would be difficult to introduce her character without any movie explaining her origin. Aquaman and Flash are two that I would like to see given shot just to introduce their characters to a mainstream audience. Martian Manhunter would probably be best as a character that they introduce in the Justice League movie itself since I don't see him carrying a movie on his own.

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