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    Are Horror Movies Getting Worse?

    Seems to me like horror movies lately are boring and uninspired. We all know there are far too many re-makes and films ruined by CGI. There have been a few bright moments over the past several years (IMO - SAW, Cabin Fever, Jeepers Creepers, and Diary of the Dead) but for the most part horror films have been a let down, especially (IMO) American adaptations of Asian horror flix.

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    Are horror movies getting worse IYO, and if so, how would you change things if you could? What's missing? Writing? Directing? Casting? PG-13?


    Re-makes piss me off more than anything. Where are the good storytellers?
    If I could, I would make it so that re-makes were allowed only after 75 years or more have passed since the original film's release.

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    Turn to Asian film, that's what I did.

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    I think there are less good coming out, yeah. But there are good ones "beyond the mainstream". Hell, there are even good mainstream ones too, except they don't get the attention they deserve IMO.

    I also think it's the ideas behind the movies, mixed with what drives them to make them nowadays. I think what drives them seems to be the money and to have alot of people seeing the movie when it first comes out. They focus alot on that first week/viewing, I think. More new ideas and ignore the money/box office.

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    Most of the time the bad horror movies are rated PG-13, soon as I see that I know right away that it's going to be awful. Then again, that's about 80% of the horror flicks that comes out now. I give straight to DVD movies more of a chance now since some of them surprised me, example, Feast, Boogeyman 2, etc. etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King_ov_Hell View Post
    Turn to Asian film, that's what I did.
    Not that wild about Asian horror. There are a few zombie flix from that region I like though.

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    Yep,poore CGI tops the list for me,it seems like it's just getting too easy to get lazy.
    When I was a young kid in the 80's low budget horror was a thing of beauty,the film makers at least tried with stop motion animation,make up,and ample amounts of T n A :bigthumbup:

    Alexandre Aja is the biggest bright spot.

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    Today its too easy to slap a hip, trendy cast whether the cast consists of musicians instead of actual actors or it has the latest teen soap flavor. The idea in the end is to slap that cast onto the film/remake, make some profit the first week and release an uncut DVD that has probably 1 extra minute of footage which is another gimmick.

    So in the end, its getting worse. For better or worse, people can say what they want about movies like SAW in the 2000s or Scream in the 90s. People go on to hate those films in different ways. While those films were good on their own, they inspire alot of the trash you see today and so they get a negative rep forever because of it. Though I prefer Scream to SAW because of the whole intricate two killer element, in the end it was scooby dooish but atleast the original had elements of a good slasher film.

    So in the end, I guess I've said it alot but I'll say it again. Eventually you'll have another one of those types of movies I mentioned that will go on to be something good, but inevietably it will probably get nailed because it will probably produce some god awful trash behind it.

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    It's actually alot better than it was in the 90's. So it definatly isn't getting worse. If you just want to compare modern horror to all time classics then ofcoarse it will fall short. Maybe your love for the genre is waining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Joker View Post
    Alexandre Aja is the biggest bright spot.
    Not really when you consider the simple fact that he hasn't made anything original yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cataclysm View Post
    Not really when you consider the simple fact that he hasn't made anything original yet.
    His movies are awesome, don't hate.

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    Actually, I didn't have a problem with the 90's that much at all.
    And while I don't like Hostel and The Hills Have Eyes or whatever movie the teenpop-00's throw at me, I still like Murder-Set-Pieces, AU/Redsin Tower, 1408, Behind the Mask, The Mist, and alot of other ones.

    Classics are classics, and you will probably never ever find a movie that will take the place of your love.

    I don't really like Aja. Haute Tension was alright for a while though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelba View Post
    His movies are awesome, don't hate.
    I'm not hating. I enjoy his movies awell.

    I would just like him as a director better and consider him as more of a contributor to the horror genre if he'd get off the remake train and do something of his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelba View Post
    It's actually alot better than it was in the 90's. So it definatly isn't getting worse.
    I'll agree with the 90s being worse.

    However this decade isnt much better IMO when by the time you turn around and see 2010 pass by. Your probably going to have 80-90% of the 80s remade in some way, shape or form.

    Remakes in their original form were a great idea. Make a new movie based off an existing one that wasnt that great or something and try to make it better. Now its more blatant than ever that the concept is farther from the truth than it ever was before.

    Now that doesnt mean I havent enjoyed some of the remakes. Nevertheless most of them are what they are.

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    There bound to run out of remakes at some point. Then they'll be forced to come up with new ideas. Until then we'll be seeing more of em

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    They are getting worse. It's very sad. And we all know the whole PG-13 thing is for a younger audience. Those damn kids!

    What needs to happen...
    1. Stop all the remakes. Asian or not.
    2. Bring back the R rating. Forget about the children.
    3. Go back to more visceral special effects.
    4. Make them gory, but not in a way that they'd be classified as torture porn.
    5. Avoid casting novelties like Jessica Alba or Busta Rhymes.
    6. Think of more creative titles. Seriously.
    7. Make new slashers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metapher View Post
    I think there are less good coming out, yeah. But there are good ones "beyond the mainstream". Hell, there are even good mainstream ones too, except they don't get the attention they deserve IMO.

    I also think it's the ideas behind the movies, mixed with what drives them to make them nowadays. I think what drives them seems to be the money and to have alot of people seeing the movie when it first comes out. They focus alot on that first week/viewing, I think. More new ideas and ignore the money/box office.
    yeah id have to agree.they keep on coming up with remakes.some of em good and some of em horrible like the fog.but for good example is the 8 films to die for,those are all good except for two that are out.crazy eights wasnt that good.but anyways original movies like feast and murder party is some good ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cataclysm View Post
    Not really when you consider the simple fact that he hasn't made anything original yet.
    well what about high tension or haute tension? the french are coming out with some good movies though like frontier(S), and inside

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    Time travel back to the 70's and 80's.

    and IMO Diary of the Dead was not a bright light in horror history, it was pretty mediocre entry from George.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadites666 View Post
    well what about high tension or haute tension?
    High Tension is nothing but a slight variation of the book Intensity.

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    And Intensity, the movie/miniserie, was better too.

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