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    Why Do You Like Underground Horror?

    It's a simple question but the answer could be far from it. I like underground horror because it is different. I like seeing how far the envelope can be pushed and still being a good movie in the process. It's nice to see how creative people can be when there is no one holding them back.

    So why do you guys like Underground Horror?

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    I like seeing how far they can and will go in these movies. It's also something fun to watch with friends or tell them about to gross them out.

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    Pretty much what has been said before; seeing how far the envelope can be pushed. It also demonstrates to the viewer what can be accomplished with a minor budget; you gotta respect that. :nod:

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    I sort of agree, but still don't feel that underground is about pushing the envelope. Many underground movies does that, but I know alot who doesn't.

    Movies I like just happen to be underground, not sure why. Maybe because they're usually made exactly like they are suppose to? Other people don't have control over them? So many things that differ then from mainstream movies, and so many things make them better.

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    Being able to see the true creativity of a film maker. There are really no restraints. They have an idea and they go for it putting everything they have into it most times taking money from their own pocket to make the film better or to help progress it. There is so much going into these films and all the film makers really wants is for the most part for someone to just watch it not how much money they can earn from it.

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    Because I am a very sick person.. also, anyone know where "Pushing the envelope" originated from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by King_ov_Hell View Post
    Because I am a very sick person.. also, anyone know where "Pushing the envelope" originated from?

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    From the perspective of someone who makes pure underground brutal horror. I like it because it allows me to release my anger and anxiety in a way that is creative and cathartic. No one gets hurt except for unsuspecting viewers who are not used to seeing extreme horror and or gore. I've had major cast members leave the room durring screenings and I could only laugh. I guess I'm desensitized to a point.

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    I think what makes these movies intriguing is the deviance. Mainstream audiences can be pretty narrow in what they watch. It has to be popular, it has to have hip characters and big names playing them, it has to be something every other asshole is talking about. When it's not, it's not important, so it's ignored.

    And let's not forget shock value. They tend to keep away from that as well. No matter how scary a movie sounds like it'll be, a lot of people just don't cross certain lines. Because the depictions seem too real, even if you can tell they're not. Oh, there's gore. Gotta cringe. Oh, there's a clear shot of a guy getting his tongue cut off. Close your eyes. Oh, someone is being dismembered in a most realistic fashion. Better leave the theater.

    So it goes to us. The deviants.

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    Everyone pretty much touched on the reasons why I like underground cinema, but I'll give my opinion anyways.

    With Hollywood movies, there is no one person making the movie and by that I mean you have the writers version, the directors version, the producers version, the studio executives, the MPAA and test audiences who all have an input on the movie and give us the final result. You have the MPAA deciding what we can and cannot watch, and remove anything they feel is inappropriate since they obviously know what's best for us. The studio executives have their fingers on all aspects of the movie and decide what should be done that will get them the most money. When they have a semi-final product they grab some random people and show them the movie and then adjust the changes based on how they scored the movie. The problem is that these people are not the "voice" of the audience for that particular movie, if you show someone who is conservative, a horror movie of course they are going to give the movie a bad score but they don't care. They've decided these small groups of the people represent the opinions of the populous as a whole and what ever they say they want changed the people behind the movie will change it, for better or worse.

    With underground cinema, you get the vision of one person (or in some cases a group of people who share the same vision) , the one actually making the movie. Sure they get input from various sources but in the end they are making a movie they want to make, and one that they want to see and they know that others who share the same interest in movies they do, will probably like it too. Of course there will be people who don't like it, there always are but contrary to Hollywood, independent filmmakers basically tell them to go fuck themselves. They're welcome to not like the movies but they aren't the ones who the movie is made for so who really cares one way or another.

    For artistic merit, mainstream cinema has none. I know how everyone talks about how gorgeous such-and-such movie is with all of it's glorious CGI and I will agree it looks good to an extent but for me, at the end of the day its just another movie saturated with expensive computer effects. I want a movie that is visually stimulating to me, a movie that could almost be a piece of art. You'll never see a mainstream flick that looks like Tetsuo the Ironman, or any similar to filmmakers like Jordowsky, Svankmajer, Quay Brothers, Bunuel, etc. Instead Hollywood's idea of having artistic value in their movies is putting colored gel on their lights and slapping a couple filters on their camera to change the hue of the image.

    Now there is occasionally a movie that does have this quality like "The Fountain" and "What Dreams May Come" but we see how well those movie did with a mainstream audience...They just blow them off as being "artsy fartsy" and I firmly believe anybody who uses that term deserves to be socked in the eye. (Sorry, I guess that's just the "art-fag" in me taking offense and in general just hating that phrase.)

    Then there are the balls-out horror movies like August Underground, Gateway Meat, Gutterballs, 100 Tears, Violent Shit, etc. As someone said these are great movies simply because they have no limits, the only restrictions they have is budget ones. Though most usually find a creative way around these problems and come out with a better, stronger movie that just knocks the shit out of these Hollywood horror films and people like Eli Roth who truly believe that their movies are pushing the limits. Also, without these restrictions we get great horror comedies like "Special Dead" that wouldn't have a chance in hell of getting made because it could at some point in time, in some place offend somebody and we can't have that. Either everyone is happy or nobody can have the movie.

    For over priced mindless entertainment I'll watch Hollywood movies, for quality films I'll watch independent ones.

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    All the reasons stated above

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    Underground horror is as much a sub-genre as vampire, werewolf, monster, or haunted house movies. I love ALL horror, whether it's a horror movie with no blood (The Haunting '63, etc.) or whether it's a horror movie with tons of blood (August Underground, Cannibal Holocaust, etc.) Some horror fans don't like these types of horror movies because it's too much for them. That's fine. However, I enjoy the hell out of these just as much as I do any other type of horror movie, so I'll continue to watch.

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    well i basicly just started getting into em, i love violence and gore, wheater is cheap or not..i still find it entertaining, so i guess these movies are perfect for me

    so any suggestions would be good

    and wooden, that trailer u posted was fuckin crazy, kinda funny too

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    I like them because they're quite different. Also they can be a little on the perverse side, not that I like that :lookarnd:

    The majority of the time they are much weaker films in the effects and acting department. But that not why i watch them.
    They offer a crude, edgy, ride on the darkside. Sometimes it's an enjoyable trip :nod:

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelba View Post
    I like them because they're quite different. Also they can be a little on the perverse side, not that I like that :lookarnd:

    The majority of the time they are much weaker films in the effects and acting department. But that not why i watch them.
    They offer a crude, edgy, ride on the darkside. Sometimes it's an enjoyable trip :nod:
    My favorite post.....:nod:

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    Because they offer something unique and more of a mind bending experience. They can be creative, disturbing, sickening, shocking, disgusting, weird, perverse, or just plain scarier...

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