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    I have decided to take the journey into Underground Horror because I am bored of the mainstream "scary film". Although they are very entertaining, I am now looking for something unique, challenging and visually stimulating. Now I am only a newbie in this genre but I think I have been guided in the right direction. I am totally in love with Nekromantik.. it blew me away, I craved more. Genesis :heart:, those who have seen it, I need not say more. I had a breif stop at Untold Story..brutal, interesting, and somewhat funny...worth a veiwing. My next adventures are going to take me places I long to be. Thank you UHM for showing me that "horror films'' can be art and should be veiwed, felt and tasted ......by all my senses.

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    I adore underground horror just because I can see an every-day guy/gal's horrorific artistic stories and creations come to life and still be on the Blockbuster or any video store's shelf without the approval of being a cash ring for Hollywood to suck from and not share it with the creators unless they were planning to make a sequel that would sound better than the first or some shit. And I love it because it's something everyone can contribute their movies too and not having to become incredibley famous for their directing or some crap, they should be given credit for everything, and including the actors and other crew. It's something you can do if you have your own video camera and just go into your backyard, streets, or creepy places around your town with and make a creative or crapfest of a film out of the smallest little expenses and even the smallest barriers you can make out of it, and it can be done in such simple-ness and so much of it can be made into something big and give you the dream of your life time to be apart of the horror generation even if you're not a rich bastard or a big-named professional. Anyone can be professional, everyone can be creative and express there art in anyway or form they want with underground films. Beats the hell out of being a business man having to wear a nice suit, carrying a suitcase, drinking nothing but coffee or wine and having to go home with your mediocre wife wondering if the relationship'll get any better or if it'll always be the same as you look out your window at night and the one thing your wife can say to that is "Coming to bed?" and you'd have to respond "Yes, dear." I sure-as-hell don't want to live a life like that, or just sit on my ass for all my days without having a nice haul-ass job, and I have too many ideas to waste. This is why I'm one of those underground filmmakers, and I'll be on there somewhere and keep going with it to be a great underground master of horror...somehow...but to hell with Hollywood!!

    But yeah, I just also really like it because it's very different and not too goddamn cliche, and you can see a lot of coolness from these films.

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    Well said "young psycho killer". To the bowels of underground :budsdrink:

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodenheart View Post
    Well said "young psycho killer". To the bowls of underground :budsdrink:
    Thanks, I'll be in the cemetary...Lindsey Lohan needs some..."company"

    Here's to you, wooden, buddy! :drunkdance:

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    Hey.. young filmmaker......love to see your work! Creative people rrroockkk!.

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    There is an old director which until recently would be all but forgotten by most if not for this documentary by Martin Scorsese. A look into a director by the name of Val Lewton who was known for his ability to gain suspense out of a low budget movie. A different man who made 18 horror movies from 1935-1951 during the golden era of cinema.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agamum View Post
    There is an old director which until recently would be all but forgotten by most if not for this documentary by Martin Scorsese. A look into a director by the name of Val Lewton who was known for his ability to gain suspense out of a low budget movie. A different man who made 18 horror movies from 1935-1951 during the golden era of cinema.

    Lewton was actually a producer, not a director. People such as Jacques Tourneur, Robert Wise, and Mark Robson were people who directed the movies that Lewton produced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucio Argento View Post
    Lewton was actually a producer, not a director. People such as Jacques Tourneur, Robert Wise, and Mark Robson were people who directed the movies that Lewton produced.
    Oh my bad though you have to admit the amount of good horror movies that came out of those few decades where pretty impressive.

    Just a small clip sticks out in my mind from a movie Lewton produced of a woman in complete darkness saying.

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    Really seemed to stick with me just wish I knew what movie that was so I could go and rent it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agamum View Post
    Oh my bad though you have to admit the amount of good horror movies that came out of those few decades where pretty impressive.

    Just a small clip sticks out in my mind from a movie Lewton produced of a woman in complete darkness saying.

    I have no peace

    Really seemed to stick with me just wish I knew what movie that was so I could go and rent it.
    This has to do with underground horror how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slayer View Post
    This has to do with underground horror how?
    The man was a genius of creating films which would be classified as cult films which this category can be found almost exclusively in the underground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agamum View Post
    The man was a genius of creating films which would be classified as cult films which this category can be found almost exclusively in the underground.

    The only thing about Lewton's cult films is that even though their budgets were miniscule and they are cult movies, the movies were funded by a huge company (RKO). I don't think Lewton's movies would meet the "Underground Horror" criteria, although they would meet classic horror criteria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucio Argento View Post
    The only thing about Lewton's cult films is that even though their budgets were miniscule and they are cult movies, the movies were funded by a huge company (RKO). I don't think Lewton's movies would meet the "Underground Horror" criteria, although they would meet classic horror criteria.
    I wasn't aware that his movies where funded by a large company but that still does not change the fact they would be considered underground. You see for a movie to be classified as underground it has to meet one or more of three standards. It has to have a style which puts it out of the main stream. Be classified as a genre which would not meet most movie standards. Or it has a small budget which would also make it a candidate for the online movie category.

    Now I had to elaborate on some of the definitions sense every website defining the terms, underground film and cult film where vague at best. So I will leave the links I used to define this and let you all judge for yourself.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_film
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    Val Lewton movies would be consider cult films, not underground as there is a difference between the two. Every definition that you have copy and pasted for what makes an underground movie, is exactly what his movies weren't.

    It has to have a style which puts it out of the main stream.

    All of his movies were made and released widely because he was financed by the major studios (RKO, MGM) and the movies he made were for the mainstream audience. How can you sit there and say his movies were not intended for the mainstream when "The Leopard Man" made 4 million?

    Be classified as a genre which would not meet most movie standards.

    He produced Sci-Fi and Horror movies, what's underground about that?

    Or it has a small budget which would also make it a candidate for the online movie category.

    Well for the most part budget is irrelevant. Saw was made only for a million dollars, which is would be consider low budget if you compared it to most Hollywood movies.

    Most horror and sci-fi movies of that era were made on small budgets, the problem is he never financed the movies himself. As it has been pointed out, he worked for Hollywood and the two of the biggest movie production companies, which is exactly the opposite of underground movies.

    So as I said, Val Lewton's produced movies maybe considered cult movies but it should be quite obvious that his movies are not underground because he worked in Hollywood and everything he made was with a major studio.

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    If you can remember the names of the movies, please post them. I'm curious as to what they are and if they are as sick as you say they are.

    Where they porno flicks or just graphic exploitation movies?

    Also, no need to apologize for your opinion about these kind of movies. They really aren't meant for everybody and if you don't like them, well then you don't like them. Nothing wrong with that.

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