Two-Face: Dead or Alive?

[ZION]

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Books settle lingering TDK debate.
by Jim Vejvoda
August 13, 2008 - Be advised that this article deals with SPOILERS regarding the end of The Dark Knight. Ever since it opened July 18, there has been a bit of a debate amongst fans about the fate of Harvey Dent/Two-Face at the end of the film.

Although Dent apparently fell to his death during a standoff with Batman and Jim Gordon in a burnt-out warehouse, some fans have suggested that Dent might not be dead since there was no blood evident (it was rated PG-13, mind you, and there was no blood even when Batman beat the snot out of Joker in the interrogation room). Also, no coffin was seen at the Dent memorial that Gordon spoke at so some have wondered if that meant Dent was simply locked away or hospitalized somewhere. Given that Heath Ledger is dead, fans also suggested that perhaps Two-Face could be brought back as the villain in Batman 3 since recasting the Joker has been met with less than overwhelming approval from fans.

TDK producer Emma Thomas fueled doubts about Dent's demise when IGN asked her about it following a press screening in late May. She told us that Dent's fate was somewhat ambivalent, and that fans could interpret it either way they'd like.

Harvey Dent's (Aaron Eckhart) violent and unstable side was evident even before he became disfigured.
But was that the filmmakers' intention? According to two new tie-in books, no. In the movie novelization, author Dennis O'Neil wrote, "Dent was sprawled, neck twisted, the mutilated side of his face exposed, his left eye open and staring sightlessly. He was obviously dead."

And just to hammer the point home further, the script by Jonah and Christopher Nolan -- included in The Dark Knight: Featuring Production Art and Full Shooting Script -- states, "Dent lies at the bottom of the hole, his neck broken. DEAD." The capitalization is their emphasis not ours. And in a later scene, "Gordon stands on a podium at Dent's funeral. Behind him is a large photograph of Dent smiling."

So there you have it, fans. The brothers Nolan killed off Two-Face. It makes you wonder if they flipped a coin to decide his fate before they wrote the scene.

[JonnieBoi]

Thank god. Exactly what I've been saying over and over. I mean, it won't stop Warner Bros from actually bringing Two-Face back anyhow. But I think it'd be stupid to bring Dent back, especially after Batman risked his reputation to cover the deaths caused by Two-Face and the death of Harvey Dent. He did it to save the city and give the citizens of Gotham a beacon of hope in Harvey Dent, to endure.

[Chief Falling Rock]

thats a good point, but when push comes to shove Two-Face is one of Bats biggest villains. Bringing him back wouldn't bother me. I loved the movie but I felt it was kinda crappy that he died. And one thing I thought was interesting. I know Wikipedia can be edited but when you read the plot on wikipedia it never refers to him actually being dead in the end.

[woodenheart]

Wondering what CMurder thinks?....this has crossed my mind too.

[choptop2]

Anyone can be brought back from the the dead in fiction.

[Chief Falling Rock]

Anyone can be brought back from the the dead in fiction.

well the movies are of coursed based from comics. And comics know all to well about that.

[strtfghtr]

I don't care what it said anywhere...they never mentioned he was dead in the movie, the funeral was a coverup so that no one would know Dent went "Two-Face"

It was obviously left to interpretation. My interpretation is that he is alive

[Red]

Dont care what way they go.

Joker will inevietably be back no matter what people want and whoever replaces him will no doubt be compared to Ledger. Question is whether or not the character will have a big role in the next movie.

Two face is actually more of a question mark to me IMO than the Joker. It may just end up being the Riddler without the rest.

Not gonna pretend to know though.

[Get Some]

i really liked two face wouldnt mind seein him come back

[cmurdur]

IN THE SCRIPT, IT CLEARLY STATED THAT HE DIED. SO FOR THE LAST TIME, AND FOR THE TIME BEING, HE'S DEAD.

[LgOr]

I don't care what it said anywhere...they never mentioned he was dead in the movie, the funeral was a coverup so that no one would know Dent went "Two-Face"

It was obviously left to interpretation. My interpretation is that he is alive

your fuckn gf kills me

[cmurdur]

I don't care what it said anywhere...they never mentioned he was dead in the movie, the funeral was a coverup so that no one would know Dent went "Two-Face"

It was obviously left to interpretation. My interpretation is that he is alive

With that logic, Rachel could still be alive. Maybe Superman flew over her and picked her right before the bomb went off.

[woodenheart]

The Murder knows....all

I mean UHM's Official Jerk..

[Godfatha]

It makes more sense to the storyline if he is dead.

[dead breed]

I dont think the joker will be back. But I can see 2 Face returning tho...anything can change.

[skybrick]

I dont think the joker will be back. But I can see 2 Face returning tho...anything can change.

The Joker wont be back ever, even in another Batman series 50 years from now. Ledger was a landmark.



I say make new bad guys. Everything doesn't have to come from the comic book.

[cmurdur]

The Joker wont be back ever, even in another Batman series 50 years from now. Ledger was a landmark.

People said the same thing about Nicholson. The Joker is too big of a character to just leave out. He is the Batman villain. He's existed in every medium of Batman, and leaving him out would be like leaving out Lex Luthor in a Superman series. The Joker should be done in every film series, but not try to copy Ledger's style.

[Matty]

It would be nice if he came back, but then agian its whatever

[woodenheart]

I could deal with Joker coming back. Like Murder said he is a big part of Batman.
But I will never forget Heath's performance as The Joker... in TDK...hoping to tell my grandchildren some day.

[ZION]

****UPDATE****

Two-Face: Dead or Alive, Part II
Eckhart confirms what we already told you.
by Jim Vejvoda


September 4, 2008 - Although a few week ago we pointed out passages from the screenplay and the movie novelization that clearly stated the fate of Harvey "Two-Face" Dent at the end of The Dark Knight, many Bat-fans simply refused to believe it.

In case you haven't seen The Dark Knight yet, stop reading now. Still here? Here goes:

Both the screenplay and the novelization state that Dent died when he broke his neck in a fall. Nevertheless, a large contingent of fans were adamant to never say die. So it's fallen to Dent himself, actor Aaron Eckhart, to spell it out nice and clearly: "He's dead," Eckhart declared during this week's press day for his new release Towelhead.

Eckhart told CHUD, "I asked Chris [Nolan, the director] if there was a chance of coming back. 'No way,' he said. 'He's toast.'" Still not convinced? Coming Soon also spoke with Eckhart, who advised them, "He is dead as a door nail. ... He ain't coming back baby!"

So there's still a chance Dent could return for Batman 3, right? "No, I'm not coming back. I think unfortunately, Heath [Ledger] was supposed to go on and that didn't work out. I'm nobody. I'm a cog. I have no say over this sort of stuff. I'm sure that there's so many other characters that they could whip together," Eckhart told CS.

And just in case you still had any doubts as to whether Two-Face was dead or alive, look at what Eckhart had to say to Ain't It Cool News: "No. I'm dead. I couldn't even get the words out of my mouth. 'Hey, Chris, am I--?' 'No. You're dead. You're dead.'"

Oh, Eckhart, you're so coy to leave so much wiggle room in your statements. So how many of you still believe in Harvey Dent? Sound off below!