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    Spider-Man 4 villain update (Not the Lizard)

    http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/01/09/...-spider-man-4/

    No word if the Lizard is getting axed over Morbius, but I'm not upset over it.

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    cool, I like both Morbius and Lizard.

    Lizard would be full CGI so it would be good to have a REAL villian for spidey as well.

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    I would prefer Morbius if it comes to one or the other.

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    When the first came out, I was stoked, the second made me a little sad, but still hopeful. Part 3, with tofert Grace as fucking venom?!? I think Raimi should step down, these movies are turning into the Schumacher Batman franchise. How are they going to do Morbius? Make him a scientist who fiends for blood after a lab incident? Maybe they'll get Shia Le "Poof" to play him. I'll pass on the rest of the Spidey franchise. So far it has been a disgrace to the god that is Stan Lee.:2far:

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    First was pretty good, Second I really enjoyed. I thought Doc Ock was done perfectly. Part 3 was a down right abomination. Venom is one of my favorite villains of all time, and they basically bent him over a barrel. Venom had Topher Graces voice (that even hurts to type) I mean come on Tophers voice??? Thats fucking ridiculous. That and he was completely 100% evil. Topher I could have seen as Carnage, but not Venom. The more I think of it they basically tried to turn venom into carnage. Stupid stupid stupid.

    You don't change a loved character like venom because of your "vision" of the movie. And the "hovercraft x games" version of Harry as The Goblin? That was extremely retarded. Raimi was a moron for doing all that. But ok I'm ranting here. I still don't understand why they aren't using the lizard. I mean hell they've hinted at him 3 times now. But having said that it'd be cool to see Morbius on screen. I was hoping for a total revamp on spiderman after part 3 though. After the shitfest that part 3 was I can't bring myself to look forward to this. I can tell Raimi has a hard on for bad guys your supposed to feel sorry for, because Morbius eventually became a good guy. Makes me think he won't be the only villain. I think Kraven would be cool. Or hell BRING BACK VENOM AND DO HIM RIGHT!.....stupid cocks.

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    Not a bad idea. All will depend on the execution.

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    Part 3 gets a bad rap...sure it wasnt as good as the first 2...but it was by no means a pile of crap. The only problem i have with the spidey movies is Kirsten "Snagletooth" Dunst. The bitch can't act and has a fucked up face...Mary Jane is supposed to be a super model. Other than her I think Raimi crammed too much in the 3rd but it was still enjoyable, this coming from a huge Spidey/venom fan of the 90s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Falling Rock View Post
    Venom had Topher Graces voice (that even hurts to type) I mean come on Tophers voice??? Thats fucking ridiculous.
    Dude, Tobey Maguire isn't exactly the sound of Spider-Man either.

    That voice should have stayed in tearjerker chick flicks about horses getting abortions or whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luris Blear View Post
    That voice should have stayed in tearjerker chick flicks about horses getting abortions or whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Falling Rock View Post
    First was pretty good, Second I really enjoyed. I thought Doc Ock was done perfectly. Part 3 was a down right abomination. Venom is one of my favorite villains of all time, and they basically bent him over a barrel. Venom had Topher Graces voice (that even hurts to type) I mean come on Tophers voice??? Thats fucking ridiculous. That and he was completely 100% evil. Topher I could have seen as Carnage, but not Venom. The more I think of it they basically tried to turn venom into carnage. Stupid stupid stupid.

    You don't change a loved character like venom because of your "vision" of the movie. And the "hovercraft x games" version of Harry as The Goblin? That was extremely retarded. Raimi was a moron for doing all that. But ok I'm ranting here. I still don't understand why they aren't using the lizard. I mean hell they've hinted at him 3 times now. But having said that it'd be cool to see Morbius on screen. I was hoping for a total revamp on spiderman after part 3 though. After the shitfest that part 3 was I can't bring myself to look forward to this. I can tell Raimi has a hard on for bad guys your supposed to feel sorry for, because Morbius eventually became a good guy. Makes me think he won't be the only villain. I think Kraven would be cool. Or hell BRING BACK VENOM AND DO HIM RIGHT!.....stupid cocks.


    It has been quite some time since I've even picked up a comic book since I really don't care much for the artwork they have now. As I recall Marvel did at somepoint turn around , and make Eddie Brock sort of a misunderstood character. Not only that they did make him into a semi hero with his own book .

    As far as the movie went they did turn him into the biggest pussy ever imaginable.......I think Fantasstic 4's Doc Doom and Venom should go on strike and kill the film makers

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    Like, so many people out there were trying to track this down. And it just...got delivered on a tweet. What the hell.

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    I just dont care for these movie as much as I wanted to,but the thought of Morbius as the villain is interesting,and that would make me give the franchise another chance.

    Overall though I would love to see Marvel take over and reboot the series,and make em right.
    More than anything I would love to see Spidey in a crossover movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker View Post
    More than anything I would love to see Spidey in a crossover movie.
    Outside the Avengers projects, I don't think we'll ever see a crossover in Marvel films. The Punisher and Daredevil have a great relationship, but that movie will never happen. It's just one of those things that only happens in comics and not in the movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luris Blear View Post
    Dude, Tobey Maguire isn't exactly the sound of Spider-Man either.

    That voice should have stayed in tearjerker chick flicks about horses getting abortions or whatever.
    cant argue that. But Venom isn't supposed to have a human voice, espescially from the nerdy guy from that 70s show.

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    Ugh I hate Morbius. He's just lame! Always has been. Why cut out the lizard? There are plenty of better villain choices than Morbius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatsu18 View Post
    Ugh I hate Morbius. He's just lame! Always has been. Why cut out the lizard? There are plenty of better villain choices than Morbius.
    it suprises me that their going with someone like him knowing there are many spiderman villains left. Morbius was just a spiderman villain for a certain period of time. They still got Lizard, Mysterio, Kraven, Chameleon, Vulture, Scorpion, Carnage, Hob Goblin. All kinds. Not to say some of these others might not be in part 4. I doubt Raimi will only have 1 villain in this flick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Falling Rock View Post
    it suprises me that their going with someone like him knowing there are many spiderman villains left. Morbius was just a spiderman villain for a certain period of time. They still got Lizard, Mysterio, Kraven, Chameleon, Vulture, Scorpion, Carnage, Hob Goblin. All kinds. Not to say some of these others might not be in part 4. I doubt Raimi will only have 1 villain in this flick.
    I miss one villain flicks. Though there are plenty of villains they could put in as henchmen like Scorpion and Rhino. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Morbius. I just think there could be better choices. Especially being that the last movie didn't go so well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatsu18 View Post
    Ugh I hate Morbius. He's just lame! Always has been. Why cut out the lizard? There are plenty of better villain choices than Morbius.
    They didn't cut him out, but Raimi has shown interest in Morbius. It could lead to 2 villains in the 4th installment.

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    Just put the Sinister Six in it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shreds_of_Flesh View Post
    Just put the Sinister Six in it
    Now that would be great. But at the same time would it be wise putting so many villains in it after last time?

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