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    Why it's ok to remake Horror Icons.

    That's right I said. It's ok to remake Hellraiser, Nightmare on Elm Street, Friday the 13th, Halloween, Child's Play The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and any other long running series led by Horror Icons.

    Everyone complains about all these remakes being a new trend but has everyone forgotten when Hammer remade all of the classic universal monsters? First remakes that become their own series with their own style.

    NOW i'm not saying all of these remakes are great. Most suck or just turn out OK. Some are fantastic. It's a rocky road, but it's unavoidable once your favorite Horror movie Icon becomes just that. an ICON. They've become legends and won't die, there will always be new generations dying to give their interpretation of an icon.

    There will always be new Dracula movies, new Frankenstein's and even Wolfmen. And now as the new legends have established themselves they will also always be new stories from them.

    Now Granted, some things don't need to be remade. Rosemary's Baby for example. It's a horror classic but there isn't an Iconic monster/villain. The Shining doesn't need to remade but an more accurate adaptation of book can come out. Though last time they did that it sucked so maybe not.

    Basically, once you've become an Icon, once you've become a franchise you're going to the way of Bond and Godzilla. It' won't end, so it's up to the fans to make sure the quality stays.

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    Sorry, but a truth is a truth. We can't stop them and deep inside we all want our favorite icons to continue on.

    Like I said the only difference between Platinum Dunes of today and Hammer back in the day is that Hammer did it right, and Platinum Dunes is doing to half assed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WayWard Childe View Post
    Sorry, but a truth is a truth. We can't stop them and deep inside we all want our favorite icons to continue on.

    Like I said the only difference between Platinum Dunes of today and Hammer back in the day is that Hammer did it right, and Platinum Dunes is doing to half assed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WayWard Childe View Post
    Sorry, but a truth is a truth. We can't stop them and deep inside we all want our favorite icons to continue on.

    Like I said the only difference between Platinum Dunes of today and Hammer back in the day is that Hammer did it right, and Platinum Dunes is doing to half assed.
    I will have to kind of agree with this wayward child. Not so adimantly, but every generation has their reshaping/reimaging of a story/icon. I totally agree on the point that Hammer did it right and PD is not doing the justice these icons deserve. They need to add more gore to their films.

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    I know that there is one guy in Hollywood responsible for all these remakes, and when I find him I'm gonna punch him in the balls!

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    I see where Wayward is coming from and I agree to some extent. While I don't encourage remakes I can accept them and they don't seem to bother me to the extent they do a lot of people on teh interwebs. I would much rather see original horror but a well crafted remake/re-imagining is always welcomed...you never know when another "Thing" or "The Fly" will come around and turn the remake world on its head.

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    I kinda agree with him...

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    I except the fact of remakes but don't encourage or most times like it.

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    There is a very, very large line between remakes done to "reimage for the next generation" and remakes done cause some jackass just wants a quick buck off a well known name. The problem appears when remakes fall on the quick buck side of the line, which happens alot lately.

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    I agree with him. Besides not all remakes turned out bad and even the ones that did suck, will never in any way downgrade the kick ass originals. They are two seperate things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimeisacharacter View Post
    There is a very, very large line between remakes done to "reimage for the next generation" and remakes done cause some jackass just wants a quick buck off a well known name. The problem appears when remakes fall on the quick buck side of the line, which happens a lot lately.
    It ALWAYS falls on the side of a quick buck. Name one remake that was better than the first. (And don't say The Thing, we know the remake is better).

    Because Bram Stoker's Dracula was so scary good....

    It comes down to money with remakes. When it is an original idea at least the creator of the story/script may have some say in the production. A remake is nothing more than people with cash looking to make cash and they don't want to take a risk on something unproven.

    Are remakes inevitable? Yes, but I don't have to like or support them. And that's just American films. The remakes of Asian Horror are IMO downright racist. They take a great movie like Pulse which is a masterpiece and they throw a bunch of American actors and redo the goddamn thing in english?

    Downright despicable.

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    I'm with Stutter Kane on the Asian remakes...I effing hate those. The original Asian flicks are way better.

    There have been remakes that are better than the original, The Fly, 80s Blob, Invasion of the Body Snatchers '78, 13 Ghosts, arguably Hills Have Eyes.

    Heck even think of the Batman movies...Burton's Batman was way better than the Adam West movie, and Nolan's Batman Begins was better than Burton's.

    Most remakes are crap or not as good as the original but there are some that surpas even the first flicks.

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    Man, I was sleeping on The Fly great f&ckin movie! I love the arm wrestling scene. I liked the original Hills personally.

    Burton's Batman was a step-up since the Adam West days, but I always laugh when The Joker pulls out that ridiculously large gun and shoots down The Batplane. Nolan's was better, however that drives home a further point.

    Its ok to Reboot, never to Remake.

    TCM- remake
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    so then the new Friday is a re-boot right? What about Texas? Thats kind of a re-boot..I think remake and reboot are the same thing different name. Some film makers take more liberties with their remakes/reboots

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    I think new Friday is a remake because they took the first 3 movies and combined them into one. TCM also a remake it wasn't a prequel or sequel.

    A reboot is a prequel or sequel to an established franchise. I can live with that. Just leave the originals alone.

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