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    Quote Originally Posted by bravenewworld1 View Post
    The retraction was because they would have exclusive VR games that could not be done on XBone. Its still maintained that it wont have exclusives outside of those VR games. Its not a new system or generation, its simply a boosted xbone.
    If you seen Crackdown 3 footage then you'd know that there is no way it is playing on a regular ass Xbox One. That shit will definitely be an Xbox One Scorpio exclusive.

    And I think you missed an entire point of it being just an analogy. You can type out another two paragraphs, but my point still stands.


    Quote Originally Posted by bravenewworld1 View Post
    or are you going to talk about how you feel and your opinions on what you want to buy.
    That's pretty much all I talk about. I said I will probably purchase an Xbox One Scorpio if it has a decent selection of games. I am then lectured about bad consumerism. I'll give my opinion as much as I want because this isn't an official debate, no matter how much you want it to be. At the end of the day, it's all about opinions. Yours is as good as mine, no matter how much you disagree. You're just another Internet shmo who takes this shit waaay too serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMHead777 View Post
    If you seen Crackdown 3 footage then you'd know that there is no way it is playing on a regular ass Xbox One. That shit will definitely be an Xbox One Scorpio exclusive.
    1. So apparently when MS says there will be no exclusives, that means nothing huh?

    2. Forget what MS says. Its the same system, one simply has better hardware.... it would be programmed in the same language. This is part of the PC points i make man.. .lord.... the difference between these systems are now the same difference we see between a Dell 5980 and an HP 1800 (no idea if those are actual models, but hopefully you get the point). Theyll both play the same goddamn software, they might not run it at the same quality, but they wil run it because they are programmed in the same language, this is not something we've seen much of with consoles. We've never had a generation where 4 of 5 consoles are programmed in the same language. And exclusives, especially exclusives within a single company, are fairly pointless now.

    3. Its not a new generation. Its, according to Microsoft, a "premium" xbone. Its say....what the Panasonic Gamecube is to the normal gamecube. Its a slight hardware upgrade.


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    The Panasonic Q, I havent seen anything about those in years. I'd love to find one IRL.

    I don't know if the Scorpio is like that...it's more like the Super Gameboy adapter compared to regular Gameboy, more graphical enhancements and little else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strtfghtr View Post
    The Panasonic Q, I havent seen anything about those in years. I'd love to find one IRL.
    A long time ago i tried to get one but i could never find one below like 500.


    Quote Originally Posted by strtfghtr View Post
    I don't know if the Scorpio is like that...it's more like the Super Gameboy adapter compared to regular Gameboy, more graphical enhancements and little else.
    Its really not, it was just fun to use the Panasonic Q in a conversation, you dont get to very often.
    Its more the PS4PRO.
    It will have the same exact games as an xbone, it will simply have more graphical options and capabilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravenewworld1 View Post
    Its a slight hardware upgrade.
    Considering how under powered the current Xbox One is, I'd say that it's more than a slight upgrade. Definitely will be giving Sony a run for its money as long as it has a proper lineup of course.

    And come on, the Panasonic Gamecube looks really awesome. Here is some history on it from one of my favorite Youtubers.



    Quote Originally Posted by bravenewworld1 View Post
    . So apparently when MS says there will be no exclusives, that means nothing huh?
    And definitely not considering MS constantly says one thing and does the other.

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    https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ne.../1100-6449662/

    3 consoles in 5 years, all amounting to a what? 15% upgrade... bravo consoles, bravo. Milk those dumb consumers while they have some money. They can at least include a bottle of K-Y.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMHead777 View Post
    Considering how under powered the current Xbox One is, I'd say that it's more than a slight upgrade. Definitely will be giving Sony a run for its money as long as it has a proper lineup of course.
    The 10% thing actually comes from a hardware site...... Bens Heck i think. Maybe it was Dave's..... either way its not much of an upgrade as far as hardware goes. One thing you have to remember about the XBone is the hardware is not that bad, its just very poorly utilized and has bottlenecks all over the place due to poor design and IMO, an intentional downgrade.

    Quote Originally Posted by DMHead777 View Post
    And come on, the Panasonic Gamecube looks really awesome. Here is some history on it from one of my favorite Youtubers.
    I agree, that's why as i said, i tried to buy one. But my point was that its not another generation of systems, its just a slight hardware upgrade.

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    And definitely not considering MS constantly says one thing and does the other.
    I was going to say that im sure down the road, five or six years from now, this will be the case. It seems almost destine. BUT, now that consoles have seemed to decide to take on PCs and given what we are seeing from Sony, i dont think it will last that long. They're cashing in on a bad consumer base and i think they are going to release a new system every 2 or 3 years and they will have to if this is the model they've chosen to follow. Which IMO would also solidify the almost complete extinction of exclusives. For developers there is just no point in exclusives anymore. Its a dead model.

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    Greatest consoles of all time.

    I'd probably edge the NES over the PS2 but I see where he's coming from. Also sad that the Saturn didn't get a mention, it's one of my all time favs.

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    My top 3 would probabbly be 3. SNES 2. PSX 1. PS2

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    Sega was always way ahead of their time. But they would always have like..... a dozen absolutely amazing games and then very few games in between that amazing and then crap.

    But when i think of the greatest consoles i just have to consider the libraries really and i don't see anything coming close to what we saw with the psx, ps2 and snes.

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    All I had as a kid was Sega consoles so I am probably a little biased, the nostalgia factor will always be with Sega for me. But yeah, Sony had great libraries. PS2 especially had so many great games. And today I am 100% Sony, PS3 and PS4 are my favorite modern consoles.

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    I missed out on so much PS2, during that time I was in college and had an xbox so my video gaming life consisted entirely of Halo capture the flag matches in the dorms. My brother had the PS2 so on breaks I'd come home and play what ever he had but never fully got into it. I ended up playing some of the classics rereleased on PS3 but I've been working my way through some of them.

    I will say there is one problem with the PS2, the graphics, gameplay, and themes of many of the "classic" games on the system are still being employed today, meaning they look and often feel dated. Something like the NES or SNES doesnt succumb to that poor aging factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strtfghtr View Post
    I will say there is one problem with the PS2, the graphics, gameplay, and themes of many of the "classic" games on the system are still being employed today, meaning they look and often feel dated. Something like the NES or SNES doesnt succumb to that poor aging factor.
    I wouldnt say this about the PS2 as much i would the PSX.
    I mean, you can see the obvious dating in PS2 games but i personally can still go back and play most ps2 games without cringing at the graphics. But with the PSX was when we first saw 3d games and a lot of new engines that were just terrible. Tekken 1, Toshindin tomb raider, etc. This was a time when they first started doing polygons and man, it shows.

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    Old video, never seen it before, but man its so accurate it almost brings a tear to my eye.

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    An external 3d video card for the Saturn... huh... i dont think i ever heard of that. Maybe i did, i dunno. Interesting though.

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