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    Yeah yeah I know. That trailer is pretty sick though. It still depresses me that a mainstream hollywood version of the "Wolfman" needs to resort to CGI for the transformation though.

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    what mainstream hollywood film doesn't resort to CGI

    and if u liked District 9 I don't wanna hear any bitching at all about CGI :naughty:

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    I'd hate to jump the CGI hatewagon but I agree for the most part.

    When used sparingly, its not a bad thing but traditional, practical effects always look better when in the hands of the right people unless its required for big, overwhelming action sequences like Transformers or something big scale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelba View Post
    what mainstream hollywood film doesn't resort to CGI

    and if u liked District 9 I don't wanna hear any bitching at all about CGI :naughty:
    I never saw District 9? But if I did I would agree that CGI is a must for a sci-fi movie like that. There was a LOT of CGI in that trailer. You would think, with a budget like that, they could use regular makeup effects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelba View Post
    There are tons of werewolf movies out there but VERY few are any good.
    There are enough good ones out there for me :dunno:

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    Okay, I'm gonna try to bring some thoughts into this discussion now. Even though it mostly consists of mindless rambling.

    Werewolf movies are, if you ask me, the best monster movies out there. The good ones that is, lol. We have some brilliant ones with excellent non-CGI special effects like The Howling and AWIL (these really are the best examples). Then we have some that might not be as excellent non-CGI special effects like Silver Bullet. I personally like that werewolf alot and I wouldn't be surprised if that's how werewolves would look if they existed, but I can agree that it's not the best looking one out there. But Silver Bullet is a perfect example of a werewolf movie that stands strong without the AWIL quality on effects. It builds a scary story, tension, has effective scenes, you name it.

    This brings me to the point about CGI and how shitty those films usually are; why can't they still be good movies? Keep in mind that these are actually movies with a decent budget behind them. I hate Underworld, Van Helsing, Cursed and whatever else is out there, but my main reason for disliking them isn't the effects, even though they bother me alot. It's that they are actually bad movies. They are all suited for 13 year olds, which bugs me alot when we are talking about monsters that tear people to shreds. But hey, even then there can be fun movies containing werewolves (The Monster Squad). I know that these barely are werewolf movies, but stay with me.

    What is actually the issue? There are good werewolf movies that hasn't had a huge budget to support them (Dog Soldiers, Ginger Snaps, etc). They are interesting as hell and the werewolves don't look too shabby at all. I'm not resolving any issues at all here, btw, so don't read further if you think that.

    Is the problem the PG-13 mixed with the CGI?
    Is it the fact that Underworld and Van Helsing are more like action movies, and Cursed a failed teenage comedy?
    Is it what someone said earlier, that werewolves aren't pleasant to look at so teens don't wanna see them?
    Did CGI make the movie industry lazy?

    I dunno. But a werewolf movie done right is way better than any vampire or monster film. Here's to hoping that House of the Wolf Man will kick everyones asses, without gore, big budget and CGI


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    Quote Originally Posted by Metapher View Post
    Okay, I'm gonna try to bring some thoughts into this discussion now. Even though it mostly consists of mindless rambling.

    Werewolf movies are, if you ask me, the best monster movies out there. The good ones that is, lol. We have some brilliant ones with excellent non-CGI special effects like The Howling and AWIL (these really are the best examples). Then we have some that might not be as excellent non-CGI special effects like Silver Bullet. I personally like that werewolf alot and I wouldn't be surprised if that's how werewolves would look if they existed, but I can agree that it's not the best looking one out there. But Silver Bullet is a perfect example of a werewolf movie that stands strong without the AWIL quality on effects. It builds a scary story, tension, has effective scenes, you name it.

    This brings me to the point about CGI and how shitty those films usually are; why can't they still be good movies? Keep in mind that these are actually movies with a decent budget behind them. I hate Underworld, Van Helsing, Cursed and whatever else is out there, but my main reason for disliking them isn't the effects, even though they bother me alot. It's that they are actually bad movies. They are all suited for 13 year olds, which bugs me alot when we are talking about monsters that tear people to shreds. But hey, even then there can be fun movies containing werewolves (The Monster Squad). I know that these barely are werewolf movies, but stay with me.

    What is actually the issue? There are good werewolf movies that hasn't had a huge budget to support them (Dog Soldiers, Ginger Snaps, etc). They are interesting as hell and the werewolves don't look too shabby at all. I'm not resolving any issues at all here, btw, so don't read further if you think that.

    Is the problem the PG-13 mixed with the CGI?
    Is it the fact that Underworld and Van Helsing are more like action movies, and Cursed a failed teenage comedy?
    Is it what someone said earlier, that werewolves aren't pleasant to look at so teens don't wanna see them?
    Did CGI make the movie industry lazy?

    I dunno. But a werewolf movie done right is way better than any vampire or monster film. Here's to hoping that House of the Wolf Man will kick everyones asses, without gore, big budget and CGI

    Good read and rant, I agree with pretty much everything actually
    Didn't like Ginger Snaps though..

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    Has anyone seen the trailer for a new film called Animals with Marc Blucas it is a Werewolf film but it has'nt been released yet but you can see a clip on youtube it looks good but i can't find a copy to buy.

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    AWIL was done very well and still stands out as one of my favorite wolf movies.
    Dog soldiers was also great and i did enjoy the first Ginger Snaps a little.
    Then you have movies like Company of Wolves (terrible) and Blood and Chocolate (ok film but did not stoke my werewolf love).
    There was also some movie - plot took place in a lab were they were expirementing with skin transplantation on corpses and accidently tested on the corpse of a werewolf in human form. They removed the silver and out came a super werewolf with steel skin.
    I can't remember the name of it.... Point is they tried something different and it almost worked. The movie wasn't half bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatOgre View Post
    There was also some movie - plot took place in a lab were they were expirementing with skin transplantation on corpses and accidently tested on the corpse of a werewolf in human form. They removed the silver and out came a super werewolf with steel skin.
    I can't remember the name of it.... Point is they tried something different and it almost worked. The movie wasn't half bad.
    Project : Metalbeast- ok film. I had seen this on sci-fi channel a few years back

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    My problem with the werewolf sub genre is a plot and content. Protagonist and antagonist of the story. That's what seems wrong for me:
    For years it's been a given that monsters were men. Beasts in human and lycanthropic forms. It was so banal from the beginning - where's a real shock in it?
    Women, on the other hand, achieve much better contrast when they transform into the monstrous creatures, don't they? Gore and violence do not only look more horrifying against women - they have much bigger impact when women commit them. Maternal instincts, betrayal, jealousy and other shit can transform the better sex to something so cruel that makes any werewolf story allegorical. And fragile naked female body on the next morning after all that carnage has much more erotic undertones while male nudity is just funny and does not quite work in serious werewolves movies.
    Maybe, besides teen dramas that camouflage like horror movie, we can get more regular horror movies with female lycanthropes instead?

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    what's with this 'the better sex' shit

    The Howling had a female werewolf that went full nude and was really the main beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelba View Post
    what's with this 'the better sex' shit

    The Howling had a female werewolf that went full nude and was really the main beast.

    And The Howling II has Sybil Danning

    I guess I want all werewolves have no penis.


    And when you say the better sex to the right audience you may fool them to sleep with you - let be honest, not all of us are Ron Jeremy. :starefreak:

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMHead777 View Post
    Underworld was great too, the first one at least. Don't remember the other two too much.
    Agree, those movies had some hopes for Werewolves, but was mostly focused on Vampires. Still, they 3rd movie was on the Werewolves side and it was great. Also Dog Soldiers is a very solid Ware-flick.

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