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    BTW... Wikipedia horror films... really... as a basis for top horror.. might as well ask people on facebook

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    Well if your going to keep ghostbusters the you'd better add peewees big adventure because large marge scared the shit out of me when I was a kid way more than ghostbusters ever did. People are always going to question and make comments when you do a list as such.

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    Wiki has a listing of horror films for each year.

    What more do you want ?

    I think you missed the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strtfghtr View Post
    Well if your going to keep ghostbusters the you'd better add peewees big adventure because large marge scared the shit out of me when I was a kid way more than ghostbusters ever did. People are always going to question and make comments when you do a list as such.
    I know it's completely difficult to say which films are or aren't horror... my opinion is if you feel it's horror, it's horror... if someone else feels it isn't.. then it isn't...

    I like to include borderline films...
    I've actually been tempred to include The Terminator in the ratings simply because it is a pretty scary movie... There is the scifi horror genre like Alien, Feast and stuff... but is Terminator allowed to be there? dunno

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterKrueger View Post
    I know it's completely difficult to say which films are or aren't horror... my opinion is if you feel it's horror, it's horror... if someone else feels it isn't.. then it isn't...

    I like to include borderline films...
    I've actually been tempred to include The Terminator in the ratings simply because it is a pretty scary movie... There is the scifi horror genre like Alien, Feast and stuff... but is Terminator allowed to be there? dunno
    Terminator is scifi

    Alien (original) was scifi horror, the sequels imo, are scifi only.

    Feast is also scifi horror.

    Ghostbusters is a family movie however - doesn't matter what way you dress it up lol

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    Also, understood the point of wikipedia and being a list of movies.. but it doesn't have much to do with ranking them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dexter View Post
    Terminator is scifi

    Alien (original) was scifi horror, the sequels imo, are scifi only.

    Feast is also scifi horror.

    Ghostbusters is a family movie however - doesn't matter what way you dress it up lol
    lol and i'm not saying you're wrong ... but i'm not wrong either... i've seen plenty of top horror lists that have had ghostbusters in it... lots of people aren't comfortable listing it as horror and that's cool... but I'm just personally not comfortable only calling it a comedy... if it helps... on the criteria for how scary it is .. it didn't score so well

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    to be honest though.. i'll probably exclude ghostbusters from the next list

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterKrueger View Post
    to be honest though.. i'll probably exclude ghostbusters from the next list

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    If you want to get some opinions then feel free to publish your new criteria buddy.

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    New Criteria

    1. Did the film offer something new? __/30
    A. New type of villain, monster, slasher, protagonist, etc. - __/5
    B. Originality of script/story - __/5
    C. Innovation in technology/methods of filmmaking - __/5
    D. Push the limits of acceptable material - __/5
    E. Add something to or help change the direction of its respective genre - __/5
    F. Was it a remake? (If so, quality?)(If no, 5 points) - __/5

    2. Was a franchise built from this film? __/20
    A. In comparison to original, how good were sequels? __/5
    B. Were the sequels as popular? __/5
    C. How consistent were the sequels? __/5
    D. Did it inspire remakes or similar films? __/5

    3. Did this film have a character who ended up becoming a horror icon? __/15
    A. Is the character the basis for other, similar, characters in other movies? __/5
    B. Is the character recognizable in horror culture? __/5
    C. Is the character positively associated with the growth of the subgenre? __/5

    4. Did it create a specific mood in the viewer? __/20
    A. Did it leave the viewer with a certain feeling after the film was over? __/5
    B. Did the music or lack of music create appropriate atmosphere? __/5
    C. Did the sound create tension or evoke emotions from the viewer? __/5
    D. Did certain camera angles/lighting/sets affect feelings toward the film? __/5

    5. Did the film offer something worthwhile to a previously used idea? __/10
    A. Did it improve on a character or character type? __/5
    B. Did it improve on a story type previously addressed? __/5

    6. How scary was this film? __/20
    A. Would it cause any sort of sleep depravation in the avg. person? __/5
    B. Would the avg. person ( any age/not just horror fanatics) find this scary? __/5
    C. How disturbing is the film (shock value)? __/5
    D. Does this film rely on more than just gore to be scary? __/5

    7. Quality of story __/30
    A. Was the story interesting? __/5
    B. Did the story make sense? __/5
    C. Did the filim hold attention/keep the viewer entertained? __/5
    D. Did it flow well from scene to scene? __/5
    E. Was there an appropriate build up of tension? __/5
    F. Is it worth watching over and over? __/5

    8. Characters __/20
    A. Did the majority of main characters serve a purpose other than adding to body count? __/5
    B. Did the characters improve on or distract from the story? __/5
    C. What was the quality of the actors? __/5
    D. Was the a clearly defined/quality protagonist? __/5

    9. Special Effects - __/15
    A. Was the level of effects used appropriate? __/5
    B. Were the effects ground-breaking/impressive? __/5
    C. Were the effects more than just a novelty? __/5

    10. Look of the film - __/20
    A. Was the look of the film successful in creating good/appropriate atmosphere? __/5
    B. Was the was quality of sets/locations? __/5
    C. What was the quality of general cinemaphotography? __/5
    D. Was the lighting of the film quality? __/5

    Total = ___/200 ... then divide by two

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    and sorry it's 40 criteria not 50

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    it's all good steel i won't bend on that one

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    I'd add it to horror... many movies fit multiple genres... I know you don't agree but thats my opinion

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    Here's where I think you are going wrong, you are trying to statistically "prove" what movies are better than others but the problem with the whole concept is that films are an art, not a science, also your criteria favors slashers and just because a movie spawns a sequel doesn't mean it was good...it means the movie was a financial success in most cases

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    Quote Originally Posted by strtfghtr View Post
    Here's where I think you are going wrong, you are trying to statistically "prove" what movies are better than others but the problem with the whole concept is that films are an art, not a science, also your criteria favors slashers and just because a movie spawns a sequel doesn't mean it was good...it means the movie was a financial success in most cases

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    financial success is one aspect of what makes a movie good... the thing about the sequels is... if the sequels suck, it's still going to get a bad grade, and if the movie sucks anyway, it will get bad scores in every other part ... i'm not sure how I am really favoring slashers... I wouldn't have that many points for story and atmosphere if i favored slashers.. it would all be style of kill, effects and titty shots

    really appreciate the quick responses...

    also, I understand the problem with statistically grading movies.. but i'm trying to do a huge list... so it just not possible to grade them another way without using numbers

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