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    Red State Review



    Rating: 5/10
    Director: Kevin Smith
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    Cast: Michael Parks, John Goodman, Stephen Root, Ronnie Connell, Michael Angarano, Nicholas Braun

    With hit movies like "Dogma", "Mallrats", and "Clerks", Kevin Smith has proved to be one of the top film makers of this generation. He has generally positive reviews for his movies and he isn't afraid to push boundaries (I.E. "Zack and Miri Make a Porno"). Kevin Smith usually sticks to his heavy-dialogue movies about nothing at all, but it was announced that he was going to try to tackle the Horror genre as well. When Red State was being advertised, there was a lot of positive feedback from it. The trailers looked genuinely scary and gave people a creepy vibe. Then the actual movie came out and it turned out not to be a horror movie at all.



    The first 45 minutes of this movie is a solid thriller, but after that turns into a mindless action flick that leads to nowhere. Where did it go wrong you ask? Well, for starters it was labeled as a horror movie, but besides the first 45 minutes there is no horror to be seen. A couple of kids get kidnapped in the beginning and the audience wonders how the hell they are going to escape where they are being held at. That's pretty much the horror aspect of it. Then after that we get this infinite feeling dialogue scene where Michael Parks rambles about how bad people must be punished. It seriously feels like it goes on forever and I was debating to turn off Netflix at that point. That portion of the movie should have been named "Red State" and the rest should have been named "John Goodman Armies a Group of Idiots". During the middle of this flick it becomes a mindless action flick and you wonder why the hell you're watching it to begin with.



    Besides John Goodman and Michael Parks, the acting is pretty awful. This movie has a combination of overly acted church fanatics, under-qualified ATF employees, and some horrific and half-assed acting by Stephen Root. It gets more and more annoying as the movie goes on and the whole time I kept watching because I thought something big was going to happen..but nothing ever does. The only thing we get are some CGI-filled deaths that look down right hilarious. There are no good aspects from this movie as a horror movie. Even as an action movie it is really half-assed and cheap looking. I know this is an indie film to the max, but good lord.



    Overall, I wouldn't recommend this movie to anyone. If you do watch it, do yourself a favor and turn it off after the first 45 minutes. Red State suffers from a anticipating beginning, a dreadfully boring middle, and a terrible ending. The story line doesn't go anywhere and it suffers visually from CGI blood and horrible acting. There is a reason why this movie went to Netflix so fast, so stay away!

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    Great review man!

    I have seen this lingering on Netflix...but you might have just made my mind up on this one. I would expect a little more fucked up side of Kevin Smith to come out...but from what I just read it really didn't

    thanks for the headz up!

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    They really had something going, then it all went wrong. I thought it was a horror film at first, then it turned to a (very boring) shootout, and the ending was like "ok then"

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    Quote Originally Posted by LastSunset View Post
    then it turned to a (very boring) shootout, and the ending was like "ok then"
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    I saw it a few weeks ago didn't like it. Tone was uneven for sure. I felt like it tried to be 3 movies in one. Wasn't a good teen comedy, wasn't a good horror movie and wasn't a good action movie. The scene inside the church with the long rant and executions was the only well done suspenseful moment. The movie didn't even end just came to an abrupt crash. A weird experiment for smith. At least it got him to try to move the camera and make a visually interesting movie.

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    Good review, personally I liked it. 6/10

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    Yea, I also didn't feel that it was a horror. I gave it an extra star for John Goodman. So 3/5 for me, but I wouldn't recommend it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMHead777 View Post
    Then after that we get this infinite feeling dialogue scene where Michael Parks rambles about how bad people must be punished.
    Couldn't disagree more. Loved every second of this scene. Michael Parks' performance was incredible and scary realistic. The high point in an otherwise mediocre film. Not sure how this guy isn't a bigger name in Hollywood.

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    Yeah heard Park's scene of him preaching was just awesome still debating if i want to see it or not.

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    I actually kind of enjoyed this movie.... But probably cause of Smith, big fan of his.

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    your reviews are getting better and better DM, keep em coming

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    Excellent review and I love the way you divide your views up with screenshots inbetween paragraphs. It makes them a joy to read.
    I must disagree with your judgement however - I loved this film and found it to be a bizarre mishmash of genre's.
    It began as a Porkie's style teen comedy, turned into a horror film as the preacher delivered an (excellently sinister and well scripted) preamble to the wicked assassination of the sacrificial lamb, then the film started over.
    It became a siege film.
    Massive respect to Kevin Smith for attempting a melange of categories like that. I'm not saying it was a resounding triumph but kudos for mixing THREE different trends together within the same film.
    I found it to be a brilliant parody of a 'Phelps family' style cult suffering the blundering wrath of a 'Waco' inspired (a few references to said massacre) ATF team out for decimation of a potentially harmful-to-their-interests- political event.
    Definitely one of the best films I've seen this year.
    8.5/10 from me.

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    seems we have a mixup of opinions. That's awesome .

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    I loved it. Micheal Parks was amazing in this role. Great acting all around. A little let down about the explanation of the old siren, I wanted something more horrific behind it.. 7/10

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodenheart View Post
    I loved it. Micheal Parks was amazing in this role. Great acting all around. A little let down about the explanation of the old siren, I wanted something more horrific behind it.. 7/10

    Spoiler...
    Likewise. I was hoping the actual rapture was coming and that it would have this awesome ending




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    Quote Originally Posted by DMHead777 View Post
    seems we have a mixup of opinions. That's awesome .
    Yep - such is the joy of film, one mans (or womans) trash is another mans treasure

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMHead777 View Post
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    Likewise. I was hoping the actual rapture was coming and that it would have this awesome ending



    I'm actually kinda glad it didn't... when I heard it, I was like... What I think is about to happen better not...Still enjoyed the movie... And Good review DM, keep it up.

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    I love Kevin Smith and the view askewniverse so much. Obviously this movie had nothing to do with his prior work, but I was excited for it anyway. I was so disappointed when I watched it. The 15 or so minute long preaching part from Parks almost put me over the edge, I kept wondering when he would shut the fuck up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misfit View Post
    the two stoners neighbours that was talked about with the old fire siren was jay and silent bob
    No it wasn't, he's gone on record to say tho does t exist in the same world as them.

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