CGI versus Practical fx

[Deadly Fiend]

I hate lazy uses of CGI. Gore shouldn't be CGI, neither should be bullet hits etc. CGI has its purpose but sadly it's used in the most lazy way possible most of the time.

Agreed. Horror movies that use only CGI is very annoying. I don't mind a mix of practical and CGI though, that is as long as it's decent.

[BurnetRhoades]

/sigh

And horror fans are all folks that should be watched closely because they're obviously disturbed and potentially dangerous. They all listen to that wicked "heavy metal" and only deviants like that kind of noise.

Right?


edit: of course I don't actually think that, I'm just trying to illustrate how these uninformed, anti-CGI rants sound to me. That is all.

[Oxley]

Isn't a viable technique for motion picture visual effects anymore. You couldn't do even the most middle-of-the-road Transformer's shot with this technique without serious, serious restrictions on movement, composition...everything.

It's still viable for animated films where style is more important than realism.

Yeeah, I know. It's a shame though. I'd love to see a bit more of it in films. It just brings a great other wordly feel. A lot of people these days though only care about the effects though.

I hate lazy uses of CGI. Gore shouldn't be CGI, neither should be bullet hits etc. CGI has its purpose but sadly it's used in the most lazy way possible most of the time.

This is why I hate The Expendables. I couldn't believe those old school action hero's went the CG route with everything. I was disgusted. I turned it off. Stallone you dead to me.

[CountOrlok]

It depends on the context a lot. When I watch 2001: A Space Odyssey, I am amazed at the visuals.. but the visuals in something like Avatar bore the hell out of me. Even though the CGI is pretty and photorealistic, I don't care, because there's nothing to be in awe about. It's like they do their best to give us eye candy but too much and it all becomes meaningless.

Like what they did with the original Star Wars movies.. the original compositions were simple, yet perfect. But now they have CGI shit flying everywhere and it's hard to give a fuck anymore. It's the same with CGI battle scenes - it's like watching someone play a video game... if I can't get involved with what is on screen then I don't give a fuck. Regardless if the CGI looks "real" or not.

[Jen]

I can't think of any movie that does Practical FX like Alien. I also can't think of any REALLY amazing CGI laced movie..

[Oxley]

It depends on the context a lot. When I watch 2001: A Space Odyssey, I am amazed at the visuals.. but the visuals in something like Avatar bore the hell out of me. Even though the CGI is pretty and photorealistic, I don't care, because there's nothing to be in awe about. It's like they do their best to give us eye candy but too much and it all becomes meaningless.

Like what they did with the original Star Wars movies.. the original compositions were simple, yet perfect. But now they have CGI shit flying everywhere and it's hard to give a fuck anymore. It's the same with CGI battle scenes - it's like watching someone play a video game... if I can't get involved with what is on screen then I don't give a fuck. Regardless if the CGI looks "real" or not.

I can't think of any movie that does Practical FX like Alien. I also can't think of any REALLY amazing CGI laced movie..

Agreed. The Facehugger work probably being the best part. Seeing that in BluRay was just

[IrishG3nt]

wait...are you telling me all kill scenes in my horror flicks aren't real.........

Prac effects of course...I like the creative side of it...I also enjoy DvD extras that go into detail how the effect was done..

[Splat]

I always thought they just had a legion of people they could just kill for these movies...damn you learn something new every day

[strtfghtr]

I also can't think of any REALLY amazing CGI laced movie..

Sin City, 300, Inception, Nolan's Batmans, etc. There's lots of good non-horror films that use CGI, though horror is tougher to find, films like Cabin in the woods, MBV3D, Trollhunter, Event horizon, and many others use it when necessary and still make the film enjoyable.

[Macready]

I can't think of any movie that does Practical FX like Alien.

Rob Bottin's work in The Thing are much better.

[Macready]

Rob Bottin
Mark Shostrom
Kevin Yagher

All underrated and at the same time some of the best ever for practical effects.

[Darkgod]

I really hate when they use cgi for something mundane. I saw a movie where the director wanted a chair a certain color but couldn't find it, so he cgi it the color

[DMHead777]

Rob Bottin's work in The Thing are much better.

Agreed

[BurnetRhoades]

The upside for folks that love awesome practical effects is they can have them all. They were done a long time ago by people who aren't that good anymore or who, apparently, never trained people good enough to continue their legacy. I'm betting most of you already have just about everything cool made up to 1982. Your work is done. Enjoy. Be happy. You just gotta wait until Bluray gets replaced to buy all of it over again and enjoy how good you think it still looks.

[DMHead777]

The upside for folks that love awesome practical effects is they can have them all. They were done a long time ago by people who aren't that good anymore or who, apparently, never trained people good enough to continue their legacy. I'm betting most of you already have just about everything cool made up to 1982. Your work is done. Enjoy. Be happy. You just gotta wait until Bluray gets replaced to buy all of it over again and enjoy how good you think it still looks.

[Macready]

I'm at a loss as well. To me it sounds like he may be trying to say he likes CGI over practical effects...perhaps...maybe...in some sort of way...I think.

[Splat]

Well there is nothing wrong with CGI if used wisely and isn't replacing practical effects that can be easily done.

[Macready]

Well there is nothing wrong with CGI if used wisely and isn't replacing practical effects that can be easily done.

Actually it is replacing simple, practical effects such as blood splatter from gunshots. Now that's as simple as it gets.

[shanebotwin]

Rob Bottin
Mark Shostrom
Kevin Yagher

All underrated and at the same time some of the best ever for practical effects.

Three of my fave artists as well.

[IrishG3nt]

practical cgi