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    Quentin Tarantino's "The Hateful Eight"

    Quentin Tarantino has just announced his next film will indeed be a western, will likely star Bruce Dern and two-time Oscar winner, Christoph Waltz and will be called, The Hateful Eight. Sounds like production starts this summer so casting will be on the minds of every Tarantino fan.

    How about we throw out some suggestions? Although we don’t have the storyline or character specs, it’s probable he’s drawing from 60′s western, The Magnificent Seven and Akira Kurosawa’s Seven Samurai. So let’s “help” QT cast this sucker – pick your top eight favorites or write in your own suggestions.
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    I'd like to see him use Michael Keaton again. He'd make a good, weathered cowboy now.

    Samuel L Jackson will probably be one of the eight.

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    Quentin needs to stop fucking acting in his films. He's not getting any better.

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    He is not a good actor at all but I do enjoy seeing him toss himself in his flicks

    this should be real good like!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurnetRhoades View Post
    Quentin needs to stop fucking acting in his films. He's not getting any better.
    I doubt he care's about his acting abilities. His movies win a plethora of awards. His cameos add a sense of humor to his films and if that's the way he wants to do it, it's obviously working for him.

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    By that virtue George Lucas's prequels to the original Star Wars trilogy plus the special editions are beyond criticism. The hundreds of millions or billions they've made prove he made the right decision at every turn and his decisions worked for him.

    Of course he's free to do as he wishes but his presence in his films are a distraction and, to me, undercut the legitimacy of the work being done by the real actors in the same scene. Because he isn't giving himself cameos.

    A cameo is what Hitchcock did. A cameo is what you see filmmakers toss to Roger Corman. A cameo is guy exiting building as star enters or guy entering or leaving a phone booth. A desk clerk or a bell hop. They're inconsequential. They're "stunt" extras. Joan of Arcadia got a cameo in Django but what Tarantino gave to Franco Nero realistically is more of a minor character and what he gave himself was definitely a minor character. I'm not splitting hairs here because there's more than just a subjective distinction.

    He's only ever been better than horrible when Rodriguez was behind the camera. Maybe he should just give his buddy a call to guest direct all scenes that Tarantino wants to act in. There's a happy medium solution

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurnetRhoades View Post
    A cameo is what Hitchcock did. A cameo is what you see filmmakers toss to Roger Corman. A cameo is guy exiting building as star enters or guy entering or leaving a phone booth. A desk clerk or a bell hop. They're inconsequential. They're "stunt" extras.
    So Martin Scorsese in Taxi Driver, or any other of his films, is not a real cameo either I'm assuming? Please. To me, a cameo is when a very famous person has a very small role in a film. It could be someone entering or leaving a phone booth, as you say or it can be a speaking role. Tarantino has never had a scene that took away from the other actors. The only movies he had a major role in, of his own, would be Pulp Fiction and maybe Grindhouse. Other than that, I don't see him ruining any scene for any other actor. The scene in Django Unchained had two other cameos with him. So to say those are cameos and his isn't, is ridiculous.

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    I don't think he is anywhere close to good as an actor, but I have no problem with him being in the scenes. Like Dm said it is usually in a comedic part or a minor spot

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    Scorcese's role in Taxi Driver wasn't really a cameo. It was a small part. Either way, he's better on screen than Tarantino. Also, Tarantino wasn't alongside two other cameos in Django. Those were all roles. Minor characters that would have been cast for like any other minor character that's neither a lead or supporting role.

    What a cameo is is not entirely subjective and it's not entirely arbitrary. In a film filled with faces that are famous the significance of the onscreen performance, its importance to the narrative, becomes the defining factor. Generally, you can erase a true cameo performance from a film and the film is no worse off. No structure is wrecked. The movie is intact. If you were to erase Tarantino from his films, after they were shot, the film is wrecked and whole sections no longer make sense or work at all. That's a role.

    You left out Reservoir Dogs as well, though for that, admittedly, he just came off mediocre with a bad death scene rather than truly, distractingly bad like in Pulp Fiction and Django.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurnetRhoades View Post
    Also, Tarantino wasn't alongside two other cameos in Django. Those were all roles. Minor characters that would have been cast for like any other minor character that's neither a lead or supporting role.
    You are wrong. One was Michael Parks and the other was John Jarratt. They were the three in the end that's part of the mining company.

    I didn't say anything about Resevoir Dogs because, as you said, he talks a bit and then gets a death that's pretty glimpsed over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMHead777 View Post
    You are wrong. One was Michael Parks and the other was John Jarratt.
    These were actors playing roles. The fact that their presence might tickle a few fans in their nether regions doesn't turn them into cameos.

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    Peter Berg as one of the many analysts sitting in the FBI briefing room near the beginning of The Kingdom is a cameo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurnetRhoades View Post
    These were actors playing roles. The fact that their presence might tickle a few fans in their nether regions doesn't turn them into cameos.
    Yes because

    1. They barely had speaking parts
    2. Parks is in most Tarantino/Rodriguez's films
    3. John Jarratt is known for his Wolf Creek films. Even in Grindhouse (the chase in the end) has them driving through a billboard that says Wolf Creek 2.

    The fact that these people are Tarantino's friends means he picked these minor roles for them as a cameo. He could have gotten any two actors to play them, but he got Parks and Jarratt. Cameo, as defined by Wikipedia:

    A cameo role or cameo appearance (/ˈkæmioʊ/; often shortened to just cameo) is a brief appearance or voice part of a known person in a work of the performing arts, typically unnamed or appearing as themselves. These roles are generally small, many of them non-speaking ones, and are commonly either appearances in a work in which they hold some special significance (such as actors from an original movie appearing in its remake), or renowned people making uncredited appearances. Short appearances by celebrities, film directors, politicians, athletes or musicians are common. A crew member of the show or movie playing a minor role can be referred to as a cameo as well, such as Alfred Hitchcock's cameos.

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    You need to re-read that definition. They weren't playing themselves. They're not "known persons" as a persons. Neither of them are. That they're his "friends" is immaterial. They're actors who play parts in films. All of Tarantino's "friends" are either actors or other filmmakers (he's reportedly incompatible with most regular folk). You just described how he casts his films almost from top to bottom.

    By your logic, Don Johnson's Big Daddy was a cameo performance. It would have to be. The only reason anyone knows who Don Johnson is, his only significance in the public eye, is from having played Sonny Crockett decades ago on Miami Vice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMHead777 View Post
    These roles are generally small, many of them non-speaking ones, and are commonly either appearances in a work in which they hold some special significance (such as actors from an original movie appearing in its remake), or renowned people making uncredited appearances.

    Quote Originally Posted by BurnetRhoades View Post
    They're not "known persons" as a persons.
    They're known persons in the Tarantinoverse/Rodriguez films.

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