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    Quote Originally Posted by Macready View Post
    there is not a lot of CGI in there.
    There was quite a bit in that trailer.

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    Yeah, I have to say that CGI sandstorm was the worst part of the trailer. Besides Tom Hardy and his awful acting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurnetRhoades View Post
    There was quite a bit in that trailer.
    I agree. At first I thought that statement was just in regards to the scenes with a few thousand extra's. But it really isn't worded that way

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    And I wasn't pointing it out to call it out. Sufficiently well done visual effects aren't going to be spotted by a civilian, or they won't know what is what and where, not with any accuracy. And I'm betting there's very little digital effects directly related to the cars themselves, which is as it should be. But logic dictates that even in the unlikely event that they were able to coordinate a massive chase into a real sandstorm it would be impossible to photograph, and if it was it wouldn't look that cool or have that sort of visible structure we see here with the perfect sun angle, and everyone would die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurnetRhoades View Post
    And I wasn't pointing it out to call it out. Sufficiently well done visual effects aren't going to be spotted by a civilian, or they won't know what is what and where, not with any accuracy. And I'm betting there's very little digital effects directly related to the cars themselves, which is as it should be. But logic dictates that even in the unlikely event that they were able to coordinate a massive chase into a real sandstorm it would be impossible to photograph, and if it was it wouldn't look that cool or have that sort of visible structure we see here with the perfect sun angle, and everyone would die.
    I don't remember any sandstorm being in the other films. It stands to reason that Miller only added it is because audiences demand that kind of spectacle in big budget movies.

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    It's possible that it's something he might've wanted before, but felt the means to make it look good or realistic enough wasn't available until now. Either way, it makes things more interesting, in my opinion.

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    Nope, it's all deliberate, like average shot length because people have ADD now and they follow the latest trends. Miller even admitted it himself. There has to be big CGI scenes because audiences expect it. All big blockbuster films have it. It's not like "wouldn't The Road Warrior be even cooler if there was a sandstorm"... nope

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrighT MasteR View Post
    It's possible that it's something he might've wanted before, but felt the means to make it look good or realistic enough wasn't available until now. Either way, it makes things more interesting, in my opinion.
    Yeah I was thinking the same thing. As technology advances, he can get away with more stuff. A sandstorm is very believable in these types of films.

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    Nope, it's all deliberate, like average shot length because people have ADD now
    How was working on the new Mad Max? Because it seems like you have all the answers without viewing the film. Obviously you were a part of the team? Actually, no don't tell me. I'm sure I'll hear you explain everything on the bonus features of the blu-ray, as you go into Miller's thought process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountOrlok View Post
    I don't remember any sandstorm being in the other films. It stands to reason that Miller only added it is because audiences demand that kind of spectacle in big budget movies.
    Your reasoning is fouled. Since it's not a remake of any of the films to date it doesn't matter what was in them besides Max himself and The Interceptor. It stands to reason that, in addition to characters we haven't seen, there should be an expectation of many things that aren't in the other films including imagery that would have been impossible to create in the other films.

    FFS

    edit: yes, audiences expect more. They expect to see things you could not reasonably or in fact create and shoot. You couldn't even realistically up-the-ante on the in camera car stunts. Not without being a repeat of something you've seen or just a variation but not markedly different. But you can't go more extreme. People would die. It's a miracle that people didn't die on the first two films given how irresponsibly and illegally they were done, the first one at least. So you have to both increase the spectacle while not killing people for the amusement of in-camera-hard-on-dipshits. That means digital enhancement, doubles and fully synthetic scenes that you (hopefully) temper to still feel like something that could happen that would just be too dangerous to do for real.

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    Personally I don't think audiences would be walking out of this flick saying "Wow that was incredible, but fuck it...there was no sandstorm." I believe the other large set-pieces and action shots and road carnage we already have seen in the trailer are pretty much what everyone is expecting.

    If they decided to add one, it's completely their own vision. There is no demand for sandstorms. I say that with confidence and I refuse to make that a knock on the film from my standpoint.

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    One thing I'm pretty sure people wouldn't miss is a robot arm. That's something I'm really, really skeptical about. Right before reading that Charlize's character was going to have a mechanical arm I'd read about the Crystal Skull level bad ideas that Lucas and Spielberg wanted to do in the first Indiana Jones movie. It's not in there because they didn't think they could pull it off or because one of the good writers they'd hired for that first script listened to that idea and said, "yeah, that's stupid, let's not do that." Hopefully Theron's is more mechanical and analog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurnetRhoades View Post
    It stands to reason that, in addition to characters we haven't seen, there should be an expectation of many things that aren't in the other films including imagery that would have been impossible to create in the other films.

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    It isn't about that, it is about going totally out of bounds of reality just for sheer spectacle.

    edit: yes, audiences expect more. They expect to see things you could not reasonably or in fact create and shoot. You couldn't even realistically up-the-ante on the in camera car stunts. Not without being a repeat of something you've seen or just a variation but not markedly different. But you can't go more extreme. People would die. It's a miracle that people didn't die on the first two films given how irresponsibly and illegally they were done, the first one at least. So you have to both increase the spectacle while not killing people for the amusement of in-camera-hard-on-dipshits. That means digital enhancement, doubles and fully synthetic scenes that you (hopefully) temper to still feel like something that could happen that would just be too dangerous to do for real.
    "Irresponsible and illegal"? WTF? The first Mad Max was done with professional stuntmen. All the Mad Max movies were. The only reason they go digital is because it's cheaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountOrlok View Post
    It isn't about that, it is about going totally out of bounds of reality just for sheer spectacle.



    "Irresponsible and illegal"? WTF? The first Mad Max was done with professional stuntmen. All the Mad Max movies were. The only reason they go digital is because it's cheaper.
    LOL, you don't even know what you don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurnetRhoades View Post
    LOL, you don't even know what you don't know.
    I don't know anything. But you won't even say what you're talking about. So, at least I don't hide.

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