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    How Rob Zombie Destroyed The "HALLOWEEN" Franchise



    I couldn't agree more with this guy. Excellent watch for those of us who know Rob Zombie is a waste.

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    I actually didnt like the first ten minutes or so. He focuses way too much on Zombie as a person, his career and attempts to establish why he should not have been given a chance by studio's at all. Which is rather silly and not in touch with how new directors are introduced to the business.
    There is plenty to say about this movie, no need to bring this into it.
    Jack Stickman did one of the better reviews of the remakes that ive seen.
    youtube.com/watch?v=LqU6CcdCuU4

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravenewworld1 View Post
    I actually didnt like the first ten minutes or so. He focuses way too much on Zombie as a person, his career and attempts to establish why he should not have been given a chance by studio's at all.
    He does a great job of exposing the truth about a hack and a liar who got the green light to remake a horror classic and then fuck it all up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koolmike View Post
    He does a great job of exposing the truth about a hack and a liar who got the green light to remake a horror classic and then fuck it all up.
    The reality is he had a bunch of experience in videography and two full length movies under his belt (one cult, the other critically acclaimed). The fact is the job would have gone to someone probably less qualified if it was not him. Just because you and the guy in the video dislike his work does not make him unqualified or mean he should not have been given a chance.

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    The reasons as to why we got here don't matter. He has the writing talent of a preschooler and can't think up a worthwhile original idea to save his life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravenewworld1 View Post
    Just because you and the guy in the video dislike his work

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    But did Zombie really destroy the franchise or did it actually run its natural course? Halloween was already a dying franchise and they had pretty much done everything they could do. Although I liked H20 and Resurrection; the movies were showing the franchise was in its death throws and it was just a matter of time. Now if someone would come out with something new and creative for the series it could possibly be revitalized, but I wouldn't hold my breath since they would have thought of it by now. If you didn't like Zombie's version you just deny, disavow, or ignore its existence. Either way Hollywood has no interest in bringing the franchise back.

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    Like, so many people out there were trying to track this down. And it just...got delivered on a tweet. What the hell.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Necromancer View Post
    But did Zombie really destroy the franchise or did it actually run its natural course? Halloween was already a dying franchise and they had pretty much done everything they could do. Although I liked H20 and Resurrection; the movies were showing the franchise was in its death throws and it was just a matter of time. Now if someone would come out with something new and creative for the series it could possibly be revitalized, but I wouldn't hold my breath since they would have thought of it by now. If you didn't like Zombie's version you just deny, disavow, or ignore its existence. Either way Hollywood has no interest in bringing the franchise back.
    So he basically brought back a dead franchise only to make sure it was dead once and for all, then made sure he kicked dirt in its face and added a ghost horse.

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    I gotta be honest that was a pretty shitty assessment of the movie itself. About 3 mins of that 30 minute video were spent talking about the actual film. Notice I said film and not films because he spends about 1 minute "discussing" the sequel.

    That entire video can be boiled down to this one sentence:
    Rob Zombie made the Halloween remkes either for money, or to further his career, or both.

    RZ's Halloween movies are still better than MOST of the franchise. I'd watch either of them over 4, 5, 6, H20, or Resurrection.

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    This guy also made one for How New Line Cinema destroyed the Friday the 13th franchise.

    Both videos provide entertaining fluff. It just depends whether you agree with the assessment or not.

    I agree that New Line Cinema had no idea what to do with the Friday the 13th franchise, and since Paramount still had the name rights. It was a big mess. I only enjoy the Paramount films (1-8, remake at times). I can sit barely sit through JGTH and I never bother with Jason X. FvJ also loses me at times, and its a shame given its Englund's final outing as Freddy.

    In terms of Rob Zombie. I can't say he destroyed the franchise, as it was already dying. He didn't help anything though. His Halloween made Myers the typical serial killer you see in the news. Broken home, bullied, etc. They tried to do more with young Michael, but it was mostly miss. He made Loomis more an asshole and had Anne (Danielle Harris) live through the original. The sequel was god awful. I can't say anything positive about it.

    I'd rather watch Carpenter's Halloween, H2, H3 or either H6 over Rob Zombie's entries. I'd even watch what I find the highly overrated H4 over those movies. H5 and H8 are the worst of the worst. What I would equate to the New Line Jason entries. H20 could've been brilliant had they stuck to Williamson's original script...or if they just let that be the final film with Laurie decapitating him. It was such a perfect way to end it...but nope. The entire film is invalidated by H8.

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    I decided to watch his other videos and have come to the conclusion that hes just another fake "purist"...... a movie "conservative". Someone who cannot deal with change or something different... a "back in my days" and can never remove himself from fake nostalgia. The idea that something cannot simply be different and he dislike it, but it has to be fundamentally flawed and wrong some how.
    This really comes through in his found footage video but you see it in the Halloween and F13 videos as well (i highlighted some things earlier).

    The fundamental flaw with basically his entire criticism is that its applied universally to each generation. When he complains about FF being horrible for horror... well the same thing was said in the 70s and 80s about the slashers he loves (in the 90s it was the "new" teen slashers, which i admit because of this i still harbor ill feelings toward the genera) . Even down to his criticisms about them being cheaply made and used for inexperienced directors and actors to break through. 90% of his arguments are parallel to the things every generation says about the next. Because its easier to criticize than to find positive things in.... ironically for him, its lazy.

    With the Halloween video, as strtfghtr mentioned, we see a guy who spends 3 minutes reviewing the film he is supposed to be reviewing and demonstrating his point. Instead of a full detailed review, we get a criticism of basically everything surrounding the movie, things that whether they are true or not, does not affect the outcome of the movie.... Or at least, does not prove a negative outcome. It does not demonstrate anything he is suggesting it does.

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    Only one thing I can say...FUCK anyone who finds any interest in RZ's movies...sorry but that is the way that I feel...especially the H remakes...tired of debating...IF YOU KNOW HORROR...you know RZ deserves a slow and pain full death sentence.


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    Rob Zombie should have done a Texas Chainsaw Massacre movie, seems more his style. I watched a bit of House of 1000 Corpses, and it reminded me a lot of TCM 2.

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    Rob Zombie should have done a Texas Chainsaw Massacre movie, seems more his style. I watched a bit of House of 1000 Corpses, and it reminded me a lot of TCM 2.
    I'd really like to see that.

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    He hasn't destroyed it for me because I haven't watched any of these piece of shits! I knew these were gonna be bad so I haven't even made an attempt to watch. So I'm good!

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