Originally Posted by
El Ahrairah
Wasnt this era the era of imports and rise of torture porn and gore?
High Tension
Ringu/Ring
Dog Soldiers
28 days
Cabin Fever
Texas remake
Im looking at lists of horror movies made between 1999-2004 and each year has tons of "high profile, gritty horror.............that felt dirty and sweaty". Granted yes, a current trend was also the Last Summer/FD/Scream type movies, the torture/gritty trend also seemed to be there and most of the movies im looking at would be recognized by any moderate horror fan.
If anything it really just shows he was following recent trends, although i think it is safe to say this "style" would be expected of him.... but as mentioned before, i think that has more to do with his lack of creativity, his inexperience in writing and film making, and his complete copying of other movies. Even if we are to give him this credit for bringing back "gritty dirty horror" that i think we've well established was not gone at all...... the movie was Texas fan fiction at best, copying more elements from Texas than not. More realistically we should call it a re-imagining of Texas.
I can get why people view 1000 with enjoyment or like because its a horror fan safe zone....its the retelling of Texas.... its what the force awakens was for SW fans... The Texas Awakens. Which like the movie or not, no one cares, but lets not pretend that it did something it didnt.
It followed trends that we could even anticipate Zombie would latch on to and it was a copy of Texas. Even in the casting you mentioned we see this complete lack of anything new or creative. Sid and Bill played the exact same character they always played. If he had to cast these guys, have them be random cops we see one time and thats it.... this is homage, this is saying "i recognize what this is, but im not going as far as to copy every aspect". He's just such a hack and i cannot see a single thing he added to horror... even if you wanted to ascribe him with the least possible thing we could and say maybe he rejuvenated Texas copy cat movies, we could just as easily dismiss it because the Texas remake was more well known, released around the same time and did the same thing.
And before you speak on Rejects i urge you to consider this.
In my first post i said that all he did was find one, two, maybe three movies to watch over and over and then wrote his script based on those movies. IMO its pretty clear he does this with every single movie hes ever done.... but i urge you to consider what i think he did with Rejects and that was watched Texas and those late 90s independent movies that came after Pulp Fiction. I would bet money that he was watching Texas and then Truth or Consequence NM before he wrote that script.
Id also like to point out that we can never nail down a directing or writing style with him. I think with most directors and writers you can look at their early work and get a good idea of their ceiling, what could come of this director, and with RZ, at least myself, i never see it. He changes elements so fundamentally movie to movie that its next to impossible to gain anything from him as a director or storyteller.... He's Hot Topics Roger Corman........ BAM! Im genius! Quote of the thread: "Rob Zombie is Hot Topic's Roger Corman".