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    My thoughts on rewatching the dark knight rises

    I recently bought the 4k releases and watched them all this week. First of all the movies looked amazing in the new conversions, second, I haven't seen dark knight rises since it originally came out and was originally let down by it. I don't remember exactly why but it was coming off of the dark knight and any sequel would have troubles meeting those expectations. But after watching it now I found it to be a more enjoyable experience and was really drawn into it. It's a bit over long has a few to many converging plot threads but over all It's great. Sometimes my opinion changes on film over time

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    I was disappointed by The Dark Knight Rises as well, but I did enjoy Tom Hardy's take on Bane, and feel he was the best thing about the movie. I think it says a lot about him as an actor that he was as intimidating as he was in this flick, considering Tom Hardy is only like 5'9, and Bane in the comics is just under 7'. Watching Hardy in this movie, the way he carries himself, the presence he projects, he comes off as much larger than he actually is. Even when he's standing next to Bale, and you can see in certain angles that Bale is taller, Hardy still makes him look like a shrimp. I also liked the voice he used. Nothing at all like what I as a comic book geek would have imagined for Bane, but I think that's what made it work so well for me, that it was unexpected.

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    I need to re-watch Rises. I've only seen it once.

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    Liked the movie, but found it a bit long with pacing issues, especially in the beginning

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    I really like Rises. I think it holds up well next to The Dark Knight, but I always questioned why they put Bane in there. Bane in 'Rises' was not really explained too well and if I recall correctly, completely different than in the comics where he is a spanish wrestler pumped full of shit to make him strong? I am probably way off of that, but I think what makes the film weak was the villain. Even though I love Tom Hardy in it, I just felt it needed someone as colorful as Ledger's performance of the Joker.

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    Good movie on its own, pretty meh as a Batman movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMHead777 View Post
    I really like Rises. I think it holds up well next to The Dark Knight, but I always questioned why they put Bane in there. Bane in 'Rises' was not really explained too well and if I recall correctly, completely different than in the comics where he is a spanish wrestler pumped full of shit to make him strong? I am probably way off of that, but I think what makes the film weak was the villain. Even though I love Tom Hardy in it, I just felt it needed someone as colorful as Ledger's performance of the Joker.
    You're off on the Bane in the Comics. He's a criminal mastermind one of the few able to deduce Batman's secret identity and manipulate his rogues gallery into doing what he wants. He's also one of the few villains to defeat Batman. He is of course a muscle bound freak thanks to his addiction to Venom, but that is both a source of strength and a weakness for him as he relies on Venom to win physical fights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strtfghtr View Post
    You're off on the Bane in the Comics. He's a criminal mastermind one of the few able to deduce Batman's secret identity and manipulate his rogues gallery into doing what he wants. He's also one of the few villains to defeat Batman. He is of course a muscle bound freak thanks to his addiction to Venom, but that is both a source of strength and a weakness for him as he relies on Venom to win physical fights.
    Ok that makes more sense. I remember being corrected about it before, but don't remember on which characteristic. I really wish they went more of a straight Bane story arch rather than have Raz's daughter, who I didn't find interesting at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMHead777 View Post
    Ok that makes more sense. I remember being corrected about it before, but don't remember on which characteristic. I really wish they went more of a straight Bane story arch rather than have Raz's daughter, who I didn't find interesting at all.
    She can definitely be an interesting character in the comics. But yeah, you wouldn't be able to tell based on this movie. She was absolutely an unnecessary and uninteresting twist thrown in.

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    The only reason people liked The Dark Knight is because heath died. Otherwise the movie is on the tv show level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ti22 View Post
    The only reason people liked The Dark Knight is because heath died. Otherwise the movie is on the tv show level.
    Are you fuckin kidding me?
    People loved that movie because its the only Batman movie that really captures The Dark Knight and not Batman.
    That movie is incredible.... not an opinion, fuckin fact. Most likely the single best comic movie ever made. It very much captured Frank Miller's Batman, had perfect casting, perfect story and character arcs, the music they used and how they used it was...... perfection....there's nothing bad about this movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ti22 View Post
    The only reason people liked The Dark Knight is because heath died. Otherwise the movie is on the tv show level.
    Respectfully disagree. A lot of comic book movies tend to not to work as well if you take out the costumes and superpowers. But with TDK, if you were to replace Batman with, say, a typical dogged cop and The Joker with a typical master criminal, and didn't change a thing about the story, you'd still have a great action/thriller. This could just as easily have been a great Bond movie, or a great Die Hard movie. And while Ledger's death did bring the morbidly curious to the theaters as well as the usual CBM fans, that doesn't diminish his performance. Watch Ledger in all his scenes -- his tics, his nuances, his body language, how he affects his voice, how the camera seems magnetically drawn to him -- it's a hell of a performance. IMO, anyway.

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