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Where's Charles Manson, goddamn it?
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A bit misleading trailer, but entertaining nonetheless
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Looks good now that more of the story is revealed
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It looks fantastic. For some reason I didn't know Kurt Russell was in this, or I forgot. Regardless, this will be an opening night viewing for me.
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So Kurt Russel is listed as "Randy" and is playing another stuntman in a Tarantino flick and I'm supposed to believe it's not Stuntman Mike.
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Im not the biggest Tarantino fan around, but this looks good. Maybe I'll even go to the cinny for this one, which I rarely do.
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I can feel your blood
dripping on my skin
I can taste your flesh
All I need is death.
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Badass poster! I'm scouring it for easter eggs and one thing that may be one but I can't make it out is
the reflection in Robbie's sunglasses.
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Saw it this morning.
This is going back to Tarantino doing multiple narratives as he did in Pulp Fiction. I see a lot of people hating on this style because they are so used to Tarantino doing a regular story, but I found it super refreshing. The acting out of everyone is fantastic, but this goes double for Leo. I was never a huge fan of Leo Dicaprio, but man is he amazing in this movie. This is honestly a movie of Tarantino going back to his roots. It's engrossing and will definitely keep you interested if you are a fan of past Tarantino films. There is a credits scene as well that you should definitely stay and watch. It's not at the ass end either.
I'd give this a very very high 8/10. My only complaints is that Sharon Tate doesn't really have a lot to do here. This is more of a Leo and Brad Pitt focused film. Saying that though, Margot Robbie is really good in here. Definitely go see this if you are a Tarantino fan like myself.
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I thought it was good but not as great as some people make it out to be.
The Charles Manson stuff is a complete afterthought and after watching the whole movie and getting to the end it delivers on the fun violence that is synonymous with Tarantino's work that I love but it also feels kind of out of place in this movie, it does have that Pulp Fiction vibe to it but that movie fleshed out a lot of its characters, this one is mainly focused on Leo and Brad Pitt trying to find their place in Hollywood.
It's fine, it's a good story, but I don't really know what I was supposed to get out of it, it has great performances, great cinematography, great dialogue and it's funny while very real in its dramatic scenes with Leo struggling to find his footing to be a better actor while Brad Pitt kind of drifts around wondering where his life will be it's compelling stuff but the Charles Manson and Sharon Tate scenes feel really out of place, which is a shame I thought this would be Quentin's first movie where he would be making a very grim horror movie about the Helter Skelter Murders and then Leo and Pitt would have to go and take revenge on Charles Manson and his cultists but that's just wishful thinking.
Maybe that would've been too predictable but Tarantino takes cliches and makes them fun all the time, here it feels like it was just
Spoiler...some elaborate and bizarre take on an ending where Sharon Tate survives and that's it, but it doesn't add anything to the movie other than the horrific violence of Pitt and Leo killing three of Manson's cultists who were going to kill them anyway and it's awesome and funny but in the end it doesn't stick with me the way his other movies do because it feels so out of place with the rest of the movie.
Not a bad watch, I just wished they'd cut out all the Charles Manson bits and just had more fun with Leo and Pitt dealing with the insanity of Hollywood, it's a movie that imagines the golden age of Hollywood is still alive and that the good guys always win but compared to reality fantasies like that can only get you so far and this just feels like one of Quentin's laid-back kind of movies that doesn't really do anything more fun with the ideas it has nor is it trying to be a serious take on the Helter Skelter Murders, it's just a buddy-buddy Hollywood comedy with some violence thrown in that quite frankly, while I love blood and gore even if it comes out of nowhere sometimes depending on the genre of the film, the violence here feels surprisingly not-needed, I know that's Tarantino's signature and all but the violence in this story is really out of place and feels very tacked on just because his name is attached to the film.
It's shocking as someone who loves Quentin Tarantino's work (though the guy in real life I find to be obnoxious) I think this is the first Tarantino movie I'd say is just okay, it's good but no where near great nor one of his best by a long shot, I love the performances and the cinematography and the comedy of it but everything else just feels like something I've already seen before and I've seen these cliches done way better.
I give it a 7/10
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Fucking MASTERPIECE 10/10
"Wake up sucker, we're thieves and we're bad guys. That's exactly what we are."
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Really good in some ways, but clumsy in others. To wit:
Spoiler...While I enjoyed Tarantino's audacious rewriting of history in Inglourious Basterds, this time around it felt arbitrary and, ultimately, pointless.
QT goes out of his way to hammer in that Cliff is a bad-ass, so we know that at some point, that bad-assness is going to come into play.
And he spends a lot of time giving us glimpses of famous Manson Family members (and a cameo by the pint-size psychopath himself), and even has Cliff pay a tense visit to Spahn Ranch at some point.
So you know that at some point, Cliff and the Family are going to have a showdown.
But where I think QT stumbles is with Sharon Tate. The way he presents her, as some ethereal beauty floating through life, you get the sense that QT is interested no so much in Tate as a person, but the abstract idea of her -- this blooming Hollywood beauty on the rise who was famously and tragically cut down before she could reach her full potential. We never get to know her in this movie, as either a real person or a movie character (incidentally, even a historically tragic death can't save Sharon Tate from QT's infamous and icky foot fetish).
Anyway, there's a definite feeling throughout the movie that QT is going to be pulling a fast one on you regarding the Sharon Tate/Manson Family murders, and when he does spring that trick, it's with the clumsiness of an amateur magician who had already revealed that the quarter was in his hand before he pulled it out of your ear. And by not involving Tate in the climax at all, you realize that ultimately, she has served no real function in the story. Sharon Tate has served as little more than a misdirection in this movie, and the more I think about that, the more insulted I feel for her memory.
Those complaints aside, there's still plenty here to enjoy. The performances are all top-notch, I love the cast (I've long been waiting for QT to use the ridiculously under-appreciated Tim Olyphant, so it's nice to see him given some screen time), most of the humor works, and QT's direction is as nuanced as ever. And while this time around his attempt to deliver fabricated movie justice to real world atrocities feels pointless and gimmicky, at least the rest of the movie is absorbing and entertaining. 6.5/10
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Great movie. I've always liked movies that follow different characters and each character proved to be pretty interesting, especially Cliff and while it was over two hours it didn't feel it at all. Next to all that, Sharon Tate's character felt kind of wasted and the ending was kind of bizarre, but I liked it. Movie was a good watch overall 8/10
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